Self-Righteous Lefties ("Cancel Culture") Out Of Control - A Call for Tolerance On Ruby-Talk Results In Ban On Reddit Ruby

Hello,

    I allow me to restate again I am not the original poster of the
(harmless) joke.
  I am asking for (more) tolerance.

Now Richard Schneeman sends on r/ruby where I have myself
self-censored because of an anti-crypto mob (the irony is that I am a
crypto-critic - by the way - and try to educate with code examples the
absurdity of it all and so on).

  Anyways, for the record lets post the message of the r/ruby ban:

You have been permanently banned from participating in r/ruby.
You can still view and subscribe to r/ruby, but you won't be able to post or
comment.

Note from the moderators:

Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my feedback and
stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we sit
regarding things that happen off of Reddit.

Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this Political thought - Leader on the threat from the illiberal left - Don’t underestimate the danger of left-leaning identity politics - #36 by Gerald_Bauer1. I see that someone said that a joke was harmful to them. I'm disgusted reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I see my co-workers face sexist remarks, and I see them burning out and quitting the programming community. I need programming and especially Ruby, to be inclusive and welcoming. I need programmers not to intentionally post harmful and hateful content.

I see others have already warned you several times against this behavior.
It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
change in your behavior.

.How absurd. Meanigful change in your behavior. I am asking for
tolerance and for sure that is not negotiable.

   Anyways, not expecting any meaningful change from Richard
Schneeman. To repost my answer for the record:

   If you follow / read the thread I am NOT the original poster of the
joke. I am just advocating / asking for tolerance. But reading your
comments above it looks like you are on a "mission". You are targeting
the wrong random nobody (and remember every action will have reactions
and so on). And I thought you are acting in good faith. Helas.

   Cheers. Prost.

What boring topic

Could we get back to the discussion about ruby ? It's still a ruby mailing
list right?

···

Em ter., 5 de out. de 2021 às 15:48, Gerald Bauer <gerald.bauer@gmail.com> escreveu:

Hello,

    I allow me to restate again I am not the original poster of the
(harmless) joke.
  I am asking for (more) tolerance.

Now Richard Schneeman sends on r/ruby where I have myself
self-censored because of an anti-crypto mob (the irony is that I am a
crypto-critic - by the way - and try to educate with code examples the
absurdity of it all and so on).

  Anyways, for the record lets post the message of the r/ruby ban:

> You have been permanently banned from participating in r/ruby.
> You can still view and subscribe to r/ruby, but you won't be able to
post or
> comment.
>
> Note from the moderators:
>
> Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
> behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my feedback
and
> stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we sit
> regarding things that happen off of Reddit.
>
> Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this
Political thought - Leader on the threat from the illiberal left - Don’t underestimate the danger of left-leaning identity politics - #36 by Gerald_Bauer1.
I see that someone said that a joke was harmful to them. I'm disgusted
reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I see my co-workers face
sexist remarks, and I see them burning out and quitting the programming
community. I need programming and especially Ruby, to be inclusive and
welcoming. I need programmers not to intentionally post harmful and hateful
content.
>
> I see others have already warned you several times against this behavior.
> It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
> change in your behavior.

.How absurd. Meanigful change in your behavior. I am asking for
tolerance and for sure that is not negotiable.

   Anyways, not expecting any meaningful change from Richard
Schneeman. To repost my answer for the record:

   If you follow / read the thread I am NOT the original poster of the
joke. I am just advocating / asking for tolerance. But reading your
comments above it looks like you are on a "mission". You are targeting
the wrong random nobody (and remember every action will have reactions
and so on). And I thought you are acting in good faith. Helas.

   Cheers. Prost.

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
<http://lists.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ruby-talk&gt;

--
Fellipe Fingoli

Hi there!
Is there anybody using Rubymotion?
Is there an active community using it?
In case of yes, what is your experience? pros and cons.

Thanks!

Hey Marcelo welcome :slight_smile:

Rubymotion is now 'DragonRuby', and it has a small but passionate team and
user base. I used it for a little while and I'm considering using it on
some future projects.

Back when I used the original Rubymotion, that was maybe 4 years ago and a
lot has changed. Back then, I thought it was good, but it involved writing
two separate Ruby stacks for IOS and Android. I think that *may* be simpler
now.

They also have been focusing on a game engine which looks pretty awesome.

https://dragonruby.org

Hope you enjoy good luck and happy Ruby-ing !

···

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:29 PM Marcelo/Daniel <danielmarcelo83@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there!
Is there anybody using Rubymotion?
Is there an active community using it?
In case of yes, what is your experience? pros and cons.

Thanks!

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
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--
A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he
is to be ultimately at peace with himself.
- Abraham Maslow

It's proprietary therefore I don't consider it in my endeavors.

···

On 10/5/21 9:28 PM, Marcelo/Daniel wrote:

Hi there!
Is there anybody using Rubymotion?
Is there an active community using it?
In case of yes, what is your experience? pros and cons.

Thanks!

Unsubscribe

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On 5 Oct 2021, at 21:40, Sean Felipe Wolfe <ether.joe@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Marcelo welcome :slight_smile:

Rubymotion is now 'DragonRuby', and it has a small but passionate team and user base. I used it for a little while and I'm considering using it on some future projects.

Back when I used the original Rubymotion, that was maybe 4 years ago and a lot has changed. Back then, I thought it was good, but it involved writing two separate Ruby stacks for IOS and Android. I think that *may* be simpler now.

They also have been focusing on a game engine which looks pretty awesome.

https://dragonruby.org

Hope you enjoy good luck and happy Ruby-ing !

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:29 PM Marcelo/Daniel <danielmarcelo83@gmail.com<mailto:danielmarcelo83@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there!
Is there anybody using Rubymotion?
Is there an active community using it?
In case of yes, what is your experience? pros and cons.

Thanks!

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
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- Abraham Maslow

Oh come on this is a decent topic !
:pensive:

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On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 9:15 PM Joseph Burke <joseph_burke@outlook.com> wrote:

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On 5 Oct 2021, at 21:40, Sean Felipe Wolfe <ether.joe@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Marcelo welcome :slight_smile:

Rubymotion is now 'DragonRuby', and it has a small but passionate team and
user base. I used it for a little while and I'm considering using it on
some future projects.

Back when I used the original Rubymotion, that was maybe 4 years ago and a
lot has changed. Back then, I thought it was good, but it involved writing
two separate Ruby stacks for IOS and Android. I think that *may* be simpler
now.

They also have been focusing on a game engine which looks pretty awesome.

https://dragonruby.org

Hope you enjoy good luck and happy Ruby-ing !

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:29 PM Marcelo/Daniel <danielmarcelo83@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi there!
Is there anybody using Rubymotion?
Is there an active community using it?
In case of yes, what is your experience? pros and cons.

Thanks!

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is to be ultimately at peace with himself.
- Abraham Maslow

I must agree with a poster a few threads above - this joke isn't funny. But the debate around it sorta reminds me of "Monty Python: The Funniest Joke in the World" [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBWr1KtnRcI

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On 10/5/21 8:48 PM, Gerald Bauer wrote:

Note from the moderators:

Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my feedback and
stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we sit
regarding things that happen off of Reddit.

Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this Political thought - Leader on the threat from the illiberal left - Don’t underestimate the danger of left-leaning identity politics - #36 by Gerald_Bauer1. I see that someone said that a joke was harmful to them. I'm disgusted reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I see my co-workers face sexist remarks, and I see them burning out and quitting the programming community. I need programming and especially Ruby, to be inclusive and welcoming. I need programmers not to intentionally post harmful and hateful content.

I see others have already warned you several times against this behavior.
It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
change in your behavior.

our collective time could be used more wisely then empty arguments. Just a
thought

···

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 3:57 PM, hmdne <hmdne@airmail.cc> wrote:

I must agree with a poster a few threads above - this joke isn't funny.
But the debate around it sorta reminds me of "Monty Python: The Funniest
Joke in the World" [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBWr1KtnRcI

On 10/5/21 8:48 PM, Gerald Bauer wrote:
>
>> Note from the moderators:
>>
>> Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
>> behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my
feedback and
>> stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we
sit
>> regarding things that happen off of Reddit.
>>
>> Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this
Political thought - Leader on the threat from the illiberal left - Don’t underestimate the danger of left-leaning identity politics - #36 by Gerald_Bauer1.
I see that someone said that a joke was harmful to them. I'm disgusted
reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I see my co-workers face
sexist remarks, and I see them burning out and quitting the programming
community. I need programming and especially Ruby, to be inclusive and
welcoming. I need programmers not to intentionally post harmful and hateful
content.
>>
>> I see others have already warned you several times against this
behavior.
>> It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
>> change in your behavior.

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
<http://lists.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ruby-talk&gt;

Hahaha, sorry, I don’t know how my e-mail ended up in this thread, it wasn’t in response to this :smiley: keep it up, it’s good stuff

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On 6 Oct 2021, at 03:33, Sean Felipe Wolfe <ether.joe@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh come on this is a decent topic !
:pensive:

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 9:15 PM Joseph Burke <joseph_burke@outlook.com <mailto:joseph_burke@outlook.com>> wrote:
Unsubscribe

On 5 Oct 2021, at 21:40, Sean Felipe Wolfe <ether.joe@gmail.com <mailto:ether.joe@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Marcelo welcome :slight_smile:

Rubymotion is now 'DragonRuby', and it has a small but passionate team and user base. I used it for a little while and I'm considering using it on some future projects.

Back when I used the original Rubymotion, that was maybe 4 years ago and a lot has changed. Back then, I thought it was good, but it involved writing two separate Ruby stacks for IOS and Android. I think that *may* be simpler now.

They also have been focusing on a game engine which looks pretty awesome.

https://dragonruby.org/&gt;

Hope you enjoy good luck and happy Ruby-ing !

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:29 PM Marcelo/Daniel <danielmarcelo83@gmail.com <mailto:danielmarcelo83@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there!
Is there anybody using Rubymotion?
Is there an active community using it?
In case of yes, what is your experience? pros and cons.

Thanks!

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One more boring post (Probably 50 people will unsubscribe after that):

What was the joke (I think most of us don't know it)
!image.png|200x200
Disclaimer: Ruby is fun so I think people here want fun. =)

Pierre M <pierre.montelle@gmail.com>, 6 Eki 2021 Çar, 07:19 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

···

our collective time could be used more wisely then empty arguments. Just a
thought

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 3:57 PM, hmdne <hmdne@airmail.cc> wrote:

I must agree with a poster a few threads above - this joke isn't funny.
But the debate around it sorta reminds me of "Monty Python: The Funniest
Joke in the World" [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBWr1KtnRcI

On 10/5/21 8:48 PM, Gerald Bauer wrote:
>
>> Note from the moderators:
>>
>> Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
>> behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my
feedback and
>> stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we
sit
>> regarding things that happen off of Reddit.
>>
>> Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this
Political thought - Leader on the threat from the illiberal left - Don’t underestimate the danger of left-leaning identity politics - #36 by Gerald_Bauer1.
I see that someone said that a joke was harmful to them. I'm disgusted
reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I see my co-workers face
sexist remarks, and I see them burning out and quitting the programming
community. I need programming and especially Ruby, to be inclusive and
welcoming. I need programmers not to intentionally post harmful and hateful
content.
>>
>> I see others have already warned you several times against this
behavior.
>> It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
>> change in your behavior.

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
<http://lists.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ruby-talk&gt;

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
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Hi Gerald,

Much appreciate your work. Unfortunately, intolerance seems to be defining
character of recent times, and ruby programmers also appear to
be possesed by this.

Please keep up your good work. There is much to learn from your projects.

saji

···

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:48 AM Gerald Bauer <gerald.bauer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

    I allow me to restate again I am not the original poster of the
(harmless) joke.
  I am asking for (more) tolerance.

Now Richard Schneeman sends on r/ruby where I have myself
self-censored because of an anti-crypto mob (the irony is that I am a
crypto-critic - by the way - and try to educate with code examples the
absurdity of it all and so on).

  Anyways, for the record lets post the message of the r/ruby ban:

> You have been permanently banned from participating in r/ruby.
> You can still view and subscribe to r/ruby, but you won't be able to
post or
> comment.
>
> Note from the moderators:
>
> Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
> behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my feedback
and
> stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we sit
> regarding things that happen off of Reddit.
>
> Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this
Political thought - Leader on the threat from the illiberal left - Don’t underestimate the danger of left-leaning identity politics - #36 by Gerald_Bauer1.
I see that someone said that a joke was harmful to them. I'm disgusted
reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I see my co-workers face
sexist remarks, and I see them burning out and quitting the programming
community. I need programming and especially Ruby, to be inclusive and
welcoming. I need programmers not to intentionally post harmful and hateful
content.
>
> I see others have already warned you several times against this behavior.
> It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
> change in your behavior.

.How absurd. Meanigful change in your behavior. I am asking for
tolerance and for sure that is not negotiable.

   Anyways, not expecting any meaningful change from Richard
Schneeman. To repost my answer for the record:

   If you follow / read the thread I am NOT the original poster of the
joke. I am just advocating / asking for tolerance. But reading your
comments above it looks like you are on a "mission". You are targeting
the wrong random nobody (and remember every action will have reactions
and so on). And I thought you are acting in good faith. Helas.

   Cheers. Prost.

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
<http://lists.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ruby-talk&gt;

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That women are vain about their age.

Cheers

···

On 2021-10-06 15:56, İsmail Arılık wrote:

One more boring post (Probably 50 people will unsubscribe after that):

What was the joke (I think most of us don't know it)

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Le mercredi 6 octobre 2021, 09:33:26 UTC+2, Matty K <matthew@kerwin.net.au> a écrit :

On 2021-10-06 15:56, İsmail Arılık wrote:

One more boring post (Probably 50 people will unsubscribe after that):

What was the joke (I think most of us don't know it)

That women are vain about their age.

Cheers
--
Matty K

I am asking for (more) tolerance.

You're asking us to be (more) tolerant of you and the efforts of people
like you to make this community and mailing list completely toxic for a
large number of people? Sorry, but I don't think so.

The Subject header for this topic is: Self-Righteous Lefties ("Cancel
Culture") Out Of Control - A Call for Tolerance On Ruby-Talk Results In
Ban On Reddit Ruby. I could equally suggest the following to aptly
describe the situation: Self-Righteous Bigots ("Culture Warriors") Out
Of Control - Behaving Obnoxiously On Ruby-Talk Results In Ban On Reddit
Ruby.

Now Richard Schneeman sends on r/ruby [snip]

FWIW I agree with everything Richard has written. Were I an active or
regular participant in r/ruby I would likely support your ban there, but
I'm not so it's a matter for others to adjudicate.

self-censored because of an anti-crypto mob (the irony is that I am a
crypto-critic - by the way - and try to educate with code examples the
absurdity of it all and so on).

It's true that you post a lot of *highly* repetitive content on the
topics of cryptocurrencies and/or pixel art, certainly to this list
anyway. It gets quite tiring reading what is basically the same email
again and again and while I don't believe this to be an issue in and of
itself, it's certainly rather antagonistic. I note that I'm not the
first person to mention this to you, nor the first to point out that
your Subject headers are poor-quality.

> I'm disgusted reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my community. I
> see my co-workers face sexist remarks, and I see them burning out
> and quitting the programming community. I need programming and
> especially Ruby, to be inclusive and welcoming. I need programmers
> not to intentionally post harmful and hateful content.

I would like to echo Richard's sentiment. If people want to post
pernicious misogynistic 'jokes' then they should do it somewhere other
than ruby-talk. If you want to speak up in favour of people's rights to
post such things then you should leave the list and not come back. If
you choose not to go elsewhere then don't be surprised if you experience
people's wrath and the pointy end of a moderator's quant.

.How absurd. Meanigful change in your behavior. I am asking for
tolerance and for sure that is not negotiable.

All rights must have fundamental limits at some point. Members of this
list do not, in my opinion, have the right to say things which tend to
preclude large numbers of other people from getting involved in the
community. I sure consider that to not be negotiable.

I am NOT the original poster of the joke. I am just advocating /
asking for tolerance.

I would simply not do that. You keep quoting Voltaire, but I'm not sure
that a community in which a high percentage of people feel excluded is
very peaceful, nor a community that I'd want to be a part of. As for
Ghandi, well I'm being the change I want to see in the world by calling
out unacceptable content and those who support it. Yes, I can.

···

On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 08:48:02PM +0200, Gerald Bauer wrote:

--
Charlie Jonas
  ~chtjonas

That's a really hard question, because if you post that joke, you will get banned from r/ruby on Reddit... and who knows how many more places in the future? But if you read the first post in this thread carefully, you will find that joke.

Warning: It's not a funny joke. It's a heavily divisive joke, because a part of community view it as a sexist joke and a part doesn't. As sexism is a grave offense, if you find it sexist, you will be outraged and demand changes. But if you won't, you will be outraged at the outraged, because they demand changes due to a trivial joke. But the important part is that you don't even need to see the joke to take a side.

So... you see how hard of an issue that is. Of course, I'm oversimplifying, because this joke is just an example of systemic sexism and it doesn't matter if you don't get offended because someone may. And so we will talk for 2 months still what we need to change or what we don't. People will get banned, some will unsubscribe, news will report on it[1], some people will be outraged, some outraged at the outraged, some outraged at me for oversimplifying it and not seeing the bigger picture, some outraged at me being a sexist with this post, some will be doxed, canceled and fired[2], some will ask us to go back to Facebook, then we will compare how much contributions we have, some will pretend to be outraged to save their jobs and in the meantime pseudonymously post on Hacker News how they are actually outraged at the outraged. And that's only the beginning and 20 years later someone will dig up this conversation and people will be canceled for what they said 20 years ago.

[1] Ruby updates code of conduct to promote inclusion (now reverted)

[2] https://twitter.com/keystonelemur/status/1445244235100291081

···

On 10/6/21 07:56, İsmail Arılık wrote:

One more boring post (Probably 50 people will unsubscribe after that):

What was the joke (I think most of us don't know it)
image.png
Disclaimer: Ruby is fun so I think people here want fun. =)

If you get yourself into so many dramas, that might be because there is
something wrong on your behavior. Get professional help from a psychologist
and spare everybody on this list that.

Let's move on with Ruby discussions please.

···

On Tuesday, October 5, 2021, Gerald Bauer <gerald.bauer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

    I allow me to restate again I am not the original poster of the
(harmless) joke.
  I am asking for (more) tolerance.

Now Richard Schneeman sends on r/ruby where I have myself
self-censored because of an anti-crypto mob (the irony is that I am a
crypto-critic - by the way - and try to educate with code examples the
absurdity of it all and so on).

  Anyways, for the record lets post the message of the r/ruby ban:

> You have been permanently banned from participating in r/ruby.
> You can still view and subscribe to r/ruby, but you won't be able to
post or
> comment.
>
> Note from the moderators:
>
> Yesterday I spoke with the mods on giving you a warning based on your
> behavior on the Ruby mailing list. I believe you listened to my feedback
and
> stopped posting about crypto. So we decided to make explicit where we sit
> regarding things that happen off of Reddit.
>
> Today I [Richard Schneeman] see you posting this https://rubytalk.org/t/
political-thought-leader-on-the-threat-from-the-illiberal-
left-don-t-underestimate-the-danger-of-left-leaning-
identity-politics/75583/36. I see that someone said that a joke was
harmful to them. I'm disgusted reading the joke. I'm frustrated for my
community. I see my co-workers face sexist remarks, and I see them burning
out and quitting the programming community. I need programming and
especially Ruby, to be inclusive and welcoming. I need programmers not to
intentionally post harmful and hateful content.
>
> I see others have already warned you several times against this behavior.
> It does not appear those warnings produced a meaningful
> change in your behavior.

.How absurd. Meanigful change in your behavior. I am asking for
tolerance and for sure that is not negotiable.

   Anyways, not expecting any meaningful change from Richard
Schneeman. To repost my answer for the record:

   If you follow / read the thread I am NOT the original poster of the
joke. I am just advocating / asking for tolerance. But reading your
comments above it looks like you are on a "mission". You are targeting
the wrong random nobody (and remember every action will have reactions
and so on). And I thought you are acting in good faith. Helas.

   Cheers. Prost.

Unsubscribe: <mailto:ruby-talk-request@ruby-lang.org?subject=unsubscribe>
<http://lists.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ruby-talk&gt;

big·ot(bĭg′ət)/n./

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

···

On 10/6/21 12:15, Charlie Jonas wrote:

On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 08:48:02PM +0200, Gerald Bauer wrote:
You're asking us to be (more) tolerant of you and the efforts of people
like you to make this community and mailing list completely toxic for a
large number of people? Sorry, but I don't think so.

The Subject header for this topic is: Self-Righteous Lefties ("Cancel
Culture") Out Of Control - A Call for Tolerance On Ruby-Talk Results In
Ban On Reddit Ruby. I could equally suggest the following to aptly
describe the situation: Self-Righteous Bigots ("Culture Warriors") Out
Of Control - Behaving Obnoxiously On Ruby-Talk Results In Ban On Reddit
Ruby.

Thanks Sean! That's a connection I had not registered :slight_smile:

I'm also keen to look at JRuby + Ruboto for Android (only) but I seem to be hitting a 404 on time :frowning:

Best Regards,
Mohit.
2021-10-6 | 11:54 pm.

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On 2021-10-6 3:39 am, Sean Felipe Wolfe wrote:

Hey Marcelo welcome :slight_smile:

Rubymotion is now 'DragonRuby', and it has a small but passionate team and user base. I used it for a little while and I'm considering using it on some future projects.

DragonRuby is in active development.
I've just received the announcement of the 3.0 release candidate.
I don't have any active projects based on it.
But, as I was searching for some toolkit to fulfill this gap, I took
the opportunity to have a commercial license as it was being sold at a
promotional price some time ago.
I'd highly recommend you to have a closer look into it.

Abinoam Jr.