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ANNOUNCEMENTS
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FXRuby-1.0.14 Now Available
The latest release of the Ruby language bindings for the FOX
GUI toolkit are now available.
MIME::Types for Ruby (1.003)
The Perl MIME::Types module was ported to ruby by Austin
Ziegler. He intends to keep up with the Perl version, so will
maintain their version numbering.
RDE0.9.8.0
RDEO is an IDE for Ruby on Win32 systems.
Text::Format for Ruby (1.003)
Austin Ziegler has also implemented Text::Format for Ruby. Go
Austin!
Rimport 0.0.1.13
Rimport is a tool for creating ri data files from 3rd-party
source code. Rimport converts the source XML created by RDoc
into a Ruby script similar to those shipped with the ri
installation. The resulting script must then be executed,
creating Marshal data dump files readable by ri.
INTERESTING THREADS
Help wanted with an experimental FAQ facility
Dave Thomas proposed a new FAQ, communally built using an IOWA
application. It’s visible at http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum and looks to be a great
resource in the making.
Ruby and Linux kernel
How cool is that? Now we can use Ruby to reconfigure (or check
the configuration of) our linux kernels … (apologies to all
of you non-linux folks out there).
a collaborative Ruby book?
Phil Tomson asked about starting a collaborative book about
Ruby. Jim Freeze responded and mentioned several items that
would make good content. David Alan Black capped things off
with a pointer to http://www.rubydoc.org/book – Sean
Chittenden’s extant project to do just this. Looks like a great
chance to contribute.
Ruby and Linux kernel
How cool is that? Now we can use Ruby to reconfigure (or check
the configuration of) our linux kernels … (apologies to all
of you non-linux folks out there).
Hey, no fair – you didn’t apologize to the non-Windows folks about
the Windows-only IDE announcement
RDE0.9.8.0
RDEO is an IDE for Ruby on Win32 systems.
That’s just RDE, not RDEO.
out of curiosity, is anyone working on the eclipse plugin for Ruby?
That seems a good use of time rather than re-inventing a whole
IDE…again. Or does RDE (et. al.) provide some functionality that
eclipse cannot?
RDE0.9.8.0
RDEO is an IDE for Ruby on Win32 systems.
That’s just RDE, not RDEO.
out of curiosity, is anyone working on the eclipse plugin for Ruby?
That seems a good use of time rather than re-inventing a whole
IDE…again. Or does RDE (et. al.) provide some functionality that
eclipse cannot?
RDE0.9.8.0
RDEO is an IDE for Ruby on Win32 systems.
That’s just RDE, not RDEO.
out of curiosity, is anyone working on the eclipse plugin for Ruby?
That seems a good use of time rather than re-inventing a whole
IDE…again. Or does RDE (et. al.) provide some functionality that
eclipse cannot?
I’m running it now in Solaris. I haven’t gotten the debugging stuff to
work right yet, but
it’s still nice as an editor and project management tool.
FYI, Curt Hibbs was originally an Eclipse enthusiast…
well, I guess he still is.
What I mean is that the RIDE project was originally to be
based on Eclipse. But that was abandoned and Curt’s ideas
were merged with Rich Kilmer’s (and some others’) to
form the FreeRIDE project. Most recently, Nishio Mizuho’s
class browser has been added to FR.
I’m not opposed to other projects at all. But I do think
they need to be aware of each other, just as e.g. rubynet
and rpkg need to know about each other, or rdoc and rd.
I.e., for possible joining, cancellation, synergy,
complementarity, stealing ideas, whatever.
For me, my money is on FreeRIDE. I like the ideas that
the team has and the overall philosophy. And I like the
furious rapidity with which Rich codes. Say that three
times fast. Boy, I’m tired. And hungry.
Hal
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----- Original Message -----
From: “Daniel Berger” djberge@qwest.com
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Ruby Weekly News
----- Original Message -----
From: “Daniel Berger” djberge@qwest.com
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Ruby Weekly News
Michael Campbell wrote:
Ruby Weekly News: 10/20/2002
RDE0.9.8.0
RDEO is an IDE for Ruby on Win32 systems.
That’s just RDE, not RDEO.
out of curiosity, is anyone working on the eclipse plugin for Ruby?
That seems a good use of time rather than re-inventing a whole
IDE…again. Or does RDE (et. al.) provide some functionality that
eclipse cannot?
I’m running it now in Solaris. I haven’t gotten the debugging stuff to
work right yet, but
it’s still nice as an editor and project management tool.
FYI, Curt Hibbs was originally an Eclipse enthusiast…
well, I guess he still is.
What I mean is that the RIDE project was originally to be
based on Eclipse. But that was abandoned and Curt’s ideas
were merged with Rich Kilmer’s (and some others’) to
form the FreeRIDE project. Most recently, Nishio Mizuho’s
class browser has been added to FR.
I’m not opposed to other projects at all. But I do think
they need to be aware of each other, just as e.g. rubynet
and rpkg need to know about each other, or rdoc and rd.
I.e., for possible joining, cancellation, synergy,
complementarity, stealing ideas, whatever.
For me, my money is on FreeRIDE. I like the ideas that
the team has and the overall philosophy. And I like the
furious rapidity with which Rich codes. Say that three
times fast. Boy, I’m tired. And hungry.
Hal
Oh, I think FreeRIDE will eventually be awesome. But as the saying goes, a
bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I’m sure FreeRIDE will be cool, and I’m looking forward to Rich’s
presentation at RubyConf. But I think one draw of the Eclipse Ruby
plugin will be software houses that are already using Eclipse for Java
developement. You can say “Look, it already works with the tools we are
using.”
Its not a matter of either/or, but both/and. They will target different
audiences.
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On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 10:50, Daniel Berger wrote:
Oh, I think FreeRIDE will eventually be awesome. But as the saying goes, a
bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
From: Jim Weirich [mailto:jim@mail.one.net] On Behalf Of Jim Weirich
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:59 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: Ruby Weekly News
Oh, I think FreeRIDE will eventually be awesome. But as the saying
goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I’m sure FreeRIDE will be cool, and I’m looking forward to
Rich’s presentation at RubyConf. But I think one draw of the
Eclipse Ruby plugin will be software houses that are already
using Eclipse for Java developement. You can say “Look, it
already works with the tools we are using.”
Its not a matter of either/or, but both/and. They will
target different audiences.
I agree. I think that if you are a user of Eclipse and would like to
hack the occasional Ruby script, having a syntax-aware editing
component/debugging system would be very nice. That and getting all the
Eclipse CVS/File mgt (which FreeRIDE will also have). We are going for
the IDE written in Ruby to allow extension by the broadest (Ruby-wise)
audience.
As I said in the presentation at RubyConf, I cannot (in good conscience)
tell a Ruby-newbie that they have to download an 18MB (54MBw/SDK) Java
development environment (and then Java) to write significant Ruby
applications where the whole FreeRIDE distro (w/Ruby) will likely be <
6MB (including FxRuby).
That said, FreeRIDE will have significant capabilities specific to Ruby
that Eclipse will not be able to touch
-Rich
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-----Original Message-----
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 10:50, Daniel Berger wrote:
We beg your indugence for an aditional week (or perhaps two if problems
arise). We are in the process of a final refactoring, which solidifies
the core plugin architecture. We will announce a download which will be
linked at http://www.rubyide.org .
FreeRIDE (right now) requires the 1.7 build of Ruby. On Win32, we are
trying to leverage the distro created by Andy, and add those modules not
included (in binary form). On linux, we will offer pointers to modules
that need to be built and build instructions. Everything else in
FreeRIDE is pure ruby, and will be packaged for simple installation and
use.
Again, thanks for the interest, and we look forward to our growing
community
-Rich
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-----Original Message-----
From: JamesBritt [mailto:james@jamesbritt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:08 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: IDEs (was RE: Ruby Weekly News)
That said, FreeRIDE will have significant capabilities specific to
Ruby that Eclipse will not be able to touch
Rich, I really enjoyed your FreeRIDE presentations, so much
so that I now want to grab the code and play around with it
We beg your indugence for an aditional week (or perhaps two if problems
arise). We are in the process of a final refactoring, which solidifies
the core plugin architecture. We will announce a download which will be
linked at http://www.rubyide.org .
FreeRIDE (right now) requires the 1.7 build of Ruby. On Win32, we are
trying to leverage the distro created by Andy, and add those modules not
included (in binary form). On linux, we will offer pointers to modules
that need to be built and build instructions. Everything else in
FreeRIDE is pure ruby, and will be packaged for simple installation and
use.
Again, thanks for the interest, and we look forward to our growing
community
