Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet 
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
using gedit is faster.
Your opinion?
# dd if=/dev/tty of=/dev/hda1
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What do experts use mainly today?
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I use sublime text with a couple add-ons and tweaks to the ruby settings
file. It really just boils down to what editor is most comfortable to you.
If you are tinkering more with the editor more than your code, I think
there's a problem.\
Questions like this will just degrade into an opinion-fest as there isn't a
"right" answer to this question.
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Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
using gedit is faster.
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$ cat > file.rb
...
C^D
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2016-01-08 18:23 GMT-02:00 Greg Donald <gdonald@gmail.com>:
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> What do experts use mainly today?# dd if=/dev/tty of=/dev/hda1
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Use vim! 
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Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
using gedit is faster.
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I switched to vim last year and have found it great. My favorite part is probably that it's so easy to string together custom commands by just typing all the motions and commands you'd normally type and saving those as what is basically an alias.
That said I have noticed some performance issues and rough edges with some vim plugins, so it's not all flowers and butterflies. Still my development feels a lot faster than it was before.
Josh
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From: A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com>
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Subject: Ruby Editor/IDE
Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet 
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than using gedit is faster.
Your opinion?
I use Scite/Emacs.
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Le Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:14:39 +0100, A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
using gedit is faster.
Your opinion?
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Greg, if you make a type, you have to write it again. If you're
metaprogramming, you'll need to buy a second hdd :((
Or do you develop so fast, that every software is a bottleneck ?
Berg
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Am 08.01.2016 21:23 schrieb "Greg Donald" <gdonald@gmail.com>:
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:14 PM, A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do experts use mainly today?# dd if=/dev/tty of=/dev/hda1
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Emacs and vi/vim are reasonable choices for most developers,
especially in so far as investment in learning them very well will
help you for decades. Proprietary editors inevitably vanish when the
developers get tired of cranking out new versions and then you have
to get used to a different environment again.
Perry
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:14:39 +0100 A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not
than using gedit is faster.
Your opinion?
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I'm not a Ruby expert, and RubyMine has helped me a lot organizing my stuff
and understand error messages. You can also do JavaScript with RubyMine,
useful if you do Rails. The only problem is that JetBrains charges quite a
bit for it (about $50 one-year subscription).
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Tim Förster <ruby@mailserver.1n3t.de> wrote:
Use vim!
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On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
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I use vim.
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Le Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:14:39 +0100, > A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com> a écrit :
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I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
using gedit is faster.
Your opinion?I use Scite/Emacs.
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I was only joking.
I use Emacs for pretty much everything except Android and iOS work
nowadays. I used vim for a long time but haven't touched it in
probably 10 years or more.
alias vi=/usr/bin/emacs
Old habits die hard.
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM, A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com> wrote:
Greg, if you make a type, you have to write it again.
# dd if=/dev/tty of=/dev/hda1
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and ~50$/year it's expensive? what is your hourly rate? in EU in average it
would be 1-2h of work and I think most of us work more then 2h per year...
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On 8 January 2016 at 21:11, Marc Chanliau <marc.chanliau@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not a Ruby expert, and RubyMine has helped me a lot organizing my
stuff and understand error messages. You can also do JavaScript with
RubyMine, useful if you do Rails. The only problem is that JetBrains
charges quite a bit for it (about $50 one-year subscription).On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Tim Förster <ruby@mailserver.1n3t.de> > wrote:
Use vim!
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On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
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I personally love Atom (by GitHub). It kinda works with everything, and is super customizable, even though it doesn't count as an IDE.
Cheers,
Umang.
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Use vim!
Am 8. Januar 2016 20:14:39 MEZ, schrieb A Berger ><aberger7890@gmail.com>:
Hello
I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
using gedit is faster.
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JetBrains tools have stayed pretty consistent without major overhauls.
I've used than for MANY years. IntelliJ, WebStorm, PyCharm and RubyMine.
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Perry E. Metzger <perry@piermont.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:14:39 +0100 A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com> > wrote:
> Hello
> I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
> On short: Most developers use vi
> What do experts use mainly today?
> If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not
> than using gedit is faster.
> Your opinion?Emacs and vi/vim are reasonable choices for most developers,
especially in so far as investment in learning them very well will
help you for decades. Proprietary editors inevitably vanish when the
developers get tired of cranking out new versions and then you have
to get used to a different environment again.Perry
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Use whatever you are comfortable with and you enjoy. Just because I use Vim doesn't mean you or anyone else should.
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I use Atom
2016-01-08 20:27 GMT+01:00 Nathaniel Quashie <nathanielcfa@gmail.com>:
I used Atom as well, but went back to sublime. Atom is great editor too,
but again sublime text just feels better for me.On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Umang Raghuvanshi <u@umangis.me> wrote:
I personally love Atom (by GitHub). It kinda works with everything, and
is super customizable, even though it doesn't count as an IDE.Cheers,
Umang.
On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, "Tim Förster" <ruby@mailserver.1n3t.de> >>> wrote:Use vim!
Am 8. Januar 2016 20:14:39 MEZ, schrieb A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com >>>> >:
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RubyMine is great for debugging (among many other things). Only problem is,
it costs quite a bit of money.
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio <ken@jots.org> wrote:
I use Sublime, myself, and agree. That being said, does anyone use
anything in particular for debugging? I love-love-love the CLI, but I
admit that some nice GUI with variables being watched, breakpoints, etc.,
would be really nifty. Suggestions?Thanks!
-Ken
On 2016-01-08 14:38, Jesus Castello wrote:
I use Atom
2016-01-08 20:27 GMT+01:00 Nathaniel Quashie <nathanielcfa@gmail.com>:
I used Atom as well, but went back to sublime. Atom is great editor too,
but again sublime text just feels better for me.On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Umang Raghuvanshi <u@umangis.me> wrote:
I personally love Atom (by GitHub). It kinda works with everything, and
is super customizable, even though it doesn't count as an IDE.Cheers,
Umang.
On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, "Tim Förster" <ruby@mailserver.1n3t.de> >>> wrote:Use vim!
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On short: Most developers use vi
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I used Atom as well, but went back to sublime. Atom is great editor too,
but again sublime text just feels better for me.
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Umang Raghuvanshi <u@umangis.me> wrote:
I personally love Atom (by GitHub). It kinda works with everything, and is
super customizable, even though it doesn't count as an IDE.Cheers,
Umang.
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I use Sublime, myself, and agree. That being said, does anyone use
anything in particular for debugging? I love-love-love the CLI, but I
admit that some nice GUI with variables being watched, breakpoints,
etc., would be really nifty. Suggestions?
Thanks!
-Ken
I use Atom
I used Atom as well, but went back to sublime. Atom is great editor too, but again sublime text just feels better for me.
I personally love Atom (by GitHub). It kinda works with everything, and is super customizable, even though it doesn't count as an IDE.
Cheers,
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Im still a noobie to programming, but I simply just use Pry for my
debugging needs.
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio <ken@jots.org> wrote:
I use Sublime, myself, and agree. That being said, does anyone use
anything in particular for debugging? I love-love-love the CLI, but I
admit that some nice GUI with variables being watched, breakpoints, etc.,
would be really nifty. Suggestions?Thanks!
-Ken
On 2016-01-08 14:38, Jesus Castello wrote:
I use Atom
2016-01-08 20:27 GMT+01:00 Nathaniel Quashie <nathanielcfa@gmail.com>:
I used Atom as well, but went back to sublime. Atom is great editor too,
but again sublime text just feels better for me.On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Umang Raghuvanshi <u@umangis.me> wrote:
I personally love Atom (by GitHub). It kinda works with everything, and
is super customizable, even though it doesn't count as an IDE.Cheers,
Umang.
On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:49 AM, "Tim Förster" <ruby@mailserver.1n3t.de> >>> wrote:Use vim!
Am 8. Januar 2016 20:14:39 MEZ, schrieb A Berger <aberger7890@gmail.com>:
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I' ve read all articles about this in the internet
On short: Most developers use vi
What do experts use mainly today?
If you know all shoetcuts in vi, than its super-efficient, of not than
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