may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
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Request granted. The community has officially introduced these tags.
Happy?
Bill
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On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
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Bill Atkins
Ilias Lazaridis, April 19:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
I thought we were using [ADV] for that, but perhaps it [ADV] actually
stood for advertisement or advice.
Seriously, though, how many of these threads do we get? Perhaps it
would be even better to break up ruby-talk into more mailing-lists,
instead of using a bunch of tags?,
nikolai
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You can ask.
Doesn't mean you'll get it.
Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.
-austin
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On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
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* Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or
"[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
Can we please introduce tag [TROLL]?
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On Tuesday 19 April 2005 13:09, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
would increase the informative value and would allow easier
filtering...
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sdmitry -=- Dmitry V. Sabanin
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].
that would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
Problem in all cases is that the initial 'ADV' may result in false UCE
alerts. What about the following?
[R-VOCACY]
This tag avoids the 'ADV' triptychon of the beast, sounds similar to
'advocacy', has the Ruby 'R' and is built in the same way as
ad-vocacy.
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
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At Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:09:34 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or
"[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
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Rome. Some hundred clerics have been arrested after repeatedly
polluting the air of the Italian capital.
Bill Atkins wrote:
Request granted. The community has officially introduced these tags.
Happy?
very.
···
Bill
On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
..
Austin Ziegler wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
You can ask.
Doesn't mean you'll get it.
obvious
Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.
what you consider it is irrelevant.
what readers consider it is relevant.
that's what are tag's for: the reader to decides
Dmitry V. Sabanin, April 19:
Can we please introduce tag [TROLL]?
Yes. Lately it seems that the need for a [TROLL] tag has increased
exponentially with the number of posts originating in .gr and perhaps
a new tag “would increase the informative value and would allow for
easier filtering”,
nikolai
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How about "[I LIVE UNDER A BRIDGE] Tag for Ruby Advocacy Related Topics" ?
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On 4/19/05, vruz <horacio.lopez@gmail.com> wrote:
> may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
> or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
> would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].that would increase the informative value and would allow easier
filtering.
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Bill Atkins
Some of us just get annoyed at the people who clog us this list with stuff
that has nothing to do with using ruby, or making ruby more useful.
I don't see the value in hyperventilating at every media mention of ruby,
or in various language competitions, or in any other advocacy discussion.
Just keep on using ruby, or making ruby easier to use, and you've done all
you can do.
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:20:33 +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:
Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.
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Neil Stevens - neil@hakubi.us
'A republic, if you can keep it.' -- Benjamin Franklin
Likewise, there is another group that believes that nobody should respond to Ilias at all. It worked for the lispers. I guess this is another area where the lisp community proves to be years ahead of everyone else. It only took them from Aug 2002 to Oct 2002 to ignore him out of the group.
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:comp.lang.lisp+author:Ilias
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On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:34 AM, vruz wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].that would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
--
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said but,
I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]" or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
Problem in all cases is that the initial 'ADV' may result in false
UCE alerts.
I understand.
the would detect "ADVERTISMENT".
What about the following?
[R-VOCACY]
This tag avoids the 'ADV' triptychon of the beast, sounds similar to 'advocacy', has the Ruby 'R' and is built in the same way as ad-vocacy.
I understand you thought, but it's not selfexplaining.
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At Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:09:34 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
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possibly [MEDIA] or [NEWS] is more adequate - normally someone mentions something from somewhere.
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
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vruz wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].that would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.
someone should tell those 'superstars' that my messages are all tagged with:
sender = ilias@lazaridis.com
..
···
You misspelled "author". Do get your terminology right -- but you have
a problem with that, don't you?
-austin
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On 4/19/05, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
what you consider it is irrelevant.
what readers consider it is relevant.
that's what are tag's for: the reader to decides
--
Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com
* Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.what you consider it is irrelevant.
What makes Austin's comment irrelevant? He certainly is a reader. You have an opinion, he has an opinion. Although you do not share his opinion, you most certainly have to respect it. You can request whatever you want, nobody will care because you are not in the position to demand anything from anyone. In fact, no one is: newsgroups are democracy, not dictatorship. If you have a suggestion, as you can see it is discussed. If people like it, it may be used; if not, you have to live with this.
martinus
Ryan Davis wrote:
Likewise, there is another group that believes that nobody should respond to Ilias at all.
Thank you.
James
Neil Stevens wrote:
Seriously, I don't see the value in such a tag, the way that [ANN]
does. I personally don't plan on using such a tag -- if I am
discussing my efforts toward advocating Ruby, I consider that general
interest.Some of us just get annoyed at the people who clog us this list with stuff
that has nothing to do with using ruby, or making ruby more useful.
I understand your frustration.
I don't see the value in hyperventilating at every media mention of ruby,
or in various language competitions, or in any other advocacy discussion.
but other people see the value in this.
you should tolerate this.
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:20:33 +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:
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you wrote "media mention of ruby"
media...
Just keep on using ruby, or making ruby easier to use, and you've done all
you can do.
that's why tag's are for.
to allow people to post (even off-topic "[OT]").
and to allow people to filter.
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comp.lang.ruby.media = comp.lang.ruby - subject: [MEDIA] ...
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I like the '[MEDIA]' tag.
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Yes, but some of us 'superstars' would like to filter out everyone who responds to you as well. It would increase informative value (by improving the signal to noise ratio) and allow for easier filtering.
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On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
vruz wrote:
may I ask the community to introduce a tag, e.g. "[ADVOC]" or "[ADVO]"
or "[ADVOCACY]" for ruby advocacy related threads?
would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.there seems to be some consensus among a number of users of this maillist.
they believe you should tag your messages as [ILIAS].
that would increase the informative value and would allow easier filtering.someone should tell those 'superstars' that my messages are all tagged with:
sender = ilias@lazaridis.com
--
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said but,
I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.