Ruby without Rails?

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

Yes!

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 at 08:22, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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I have been through that stage ...the problem is that you get bored fast of
languages.. I would suggest you learn Ruby and go through the standard
library and try to solve your problem with it.

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On 14-Nov-2017 12:51 PM, "Surya Poojary" <suryapjr@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

See these books

    Wicked Cool Ruby Scripts
    Everyday Scripting with Ruby

    An example of using Ruby scripts as framework is Unity Unit Test
    framework <https://github.com/ThrowTheSwitch/Unity> for C language.

Regards

На 14.11.2017 г. в 9:21, Surya Poojary написа:

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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

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Hi! As a system administrator, I use Ruby -- plain, relatively vanilla Ruby -- all the time. I prefer it over Perl (it's more modern, does OOP much more gracefully, and overall feels more like a *language*), and over Python (Python irks me in some trivial ways -- for example, it always seems arbitrary whether something is a function or a method; Python's space-indentation makes it a real PITA to cut-and-paste, likewise the same for executing one-liners from the CLI). Right now, I'm a cloud admin, and have taken to writing lots of scripts that talk to the Openstack APIs, because the Openstack CLI tools are bugging me. (Who sends errors to STDOUT?!?!)

I also like the fact that it still retains some of the easy regex use that Perl had, as well as some other things.

$.02, YMMV, etc.

-Ken

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On 2017-11-14 02:21, Surya Poojary wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and
does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold
its own against other languages if there is no rails.

I am a beginner like you.

I started to use Ruby one month ago and my priority was
making short scripts for Linux system administration and
controlling the BeagleBone Black.

I must say in this respect Ruby really rocks, these are my arguments about it:

-] It has a REPL that is part of the language (irb) [Perl does not, Python does]

-] It has great features from Perl: builtin regexp, powerful string quoting %q, %Q, nice
string interpolation, clean way to call other shell programs : ` ` .
[Perl has, Python has but IMHO not so practical to use ]

-] You can write long numbers as "100_00_123_4_56", so, you can use Ruby as a pocket calculator, I need it a lot of times. [ Perl has, but it is not born to be used in a REPL,
Python has it only from release 3.6 (i guess) ]

-] As easy to read as Python. But in Ruby you can write your logic in a single line, in Python not. So, good for one-liners. [ Perl is not so nice to read, but rocks in one-liners ]

-] Ruby uses Scheme way of designing methods that return booeleans (with "?") and methods that are destructive(with "!") [ Perl does not, Python does not ]

-] As in Lisp each time you run a "statement" you get a value back. This is very
good, I appreciate it. [ Python does not do it always (AFAIRemember), and Perl,
what it returns it depends on what it expects ]

-] In general, if you know other programming languages you will see
Ruby tries to take the best from each one of them. And, IMHO it succedes.

Given that, I will write all code I was writing in Python, Perl, Bash in Ruby from
now on. Because I think it is a very clean and comprehensive generale purpose tool.

Bye
Nicola

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On 14/11/2017 08:21, Surya Poojary wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:

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On 14-Nov-2017 12:56 PM, "Xavier Noria" <fxn@hashref.com> wrote:

Yes!

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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:
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Yes!

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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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Learn Ruby first. Then learn Rails, if you want to.

I find http://exercism.io/ to be a good way to learn, but everyone is different.

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I have been through that stage ...the problem is that you get bored fast of languages.. I would suggest you learn Ruby and go through the standard library and try to solve your problem with it.
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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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thank you everyone

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On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Ivan Cenov <i_cenov@botevgrad.com> wrote:

See these books

Wicked Cool Ruby Scripts
Everyday Scripting with Ruby

An example of using Ruby scripts as framework is Unity Unit Test framework
<https://github.com/ThrowTheSwitch/Unity> for C language.

Regards

На 14.11.2017 г. в 9:21, Surya Poojary написа:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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best of luck!

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Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:
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Yes!

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 at 08:22, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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+10 for Exercism, it's a very website to work on exercises on any language,
and there are helpful peers and mentors that can help you improve your code.

I would honestly recommend Ruby to anyone wishing to learn true Object Oriented Programming. It's handling of all object related matters is intuitive and all-encompassing. And, of course, it's use as an Internet scripting engine is more than useful.

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thank you everyone

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    See these books

        Wicked Cool Ruby Scripts
        Everyday Scripting with Ruby

        An example of using Ruby scripts as framework is Unity Unit
        Test framework <https://github.com/ThrowTheSwitch/Unity> for C
        language.

    Regards

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    I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how
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    framework and does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know
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Welcome!

There are lots of great applications without rails. Just to name a few:
homebrew, asciidoctor (my favourite), rake, and many other non-rails
framework like sinatra and hanami.

Heard in rubykaigi that many Japanese use mruby for embedded device. But
never tried it.
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Thank you !

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best of luck!

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Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:
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Yes!

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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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Great!! Ruby rocks!

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Welcome!

There are lots of great applications without rails. Just to name a few:
homebrew, asciidoctor (my favourite), rake, and many other non-rails
framework like sinatra and hanami.

Heard in rubykaigi that many Japanese use mruby for embedded device. But
never tried it.
2017年11月14日 下午4:49 於 "Surya Poojary" <suryapjr@gmail.com> 寫道:

Thank you !
On 14-Nov-2017 1:31 PM, "Maria Tikhonova" <ritz.rkraft@gmail.com> wrote:

best of luck!

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> >> wrote:

Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:
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Yes!

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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

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What are yo fed up about? What is the problem you’re having?

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To: Ruby users
Subject: Re: Ruby without Rails?

hi i am graduated in software engineer and i want to learn Ruby.how and where should i start ?? i am trying to learn code in many languages like java , C# and recent times in php .. but i am fed after some time .is there is any solution for this problem ?? will Ruby solve this problem??

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hi i am graduated in software engineer and i want to learn Ruby.how and
where should i start ?? i am trying to learn code in many languages like
java , C# and recent times in php .. but i am fed after some time .is there
is any solution for this problem ?? will Ruby solve this problem??

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On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> wrote:

Great!! Ruby rocks!
On 14-Nov-2017 8:23 PM, "趙汝雋" <chiu6700@gmail.com> wrote:

Welcome!

There are lots of great applications without rails. Just to name a few:
homebrew, asciidoctor (my favourite), rake, and many other non-rails
framework like sinatra and hanami.

Heard in rubykaigi that many Japanese use mruby for embedded device. But
never tried it.
2017年11月14日 下午4:49 於 "Surya Poojary" <suryapjr@gmail.com> 寫道:

Thank you !
On 14-Nov-2017 1:31 PM, "Maria Tikhonova" <ritz.rkraft@gmail.com> wrote:

best of luck!

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> >>> wrote:

Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:
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Yes!

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Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people
always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does
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Enviado: miércoles, 15 de noviembre de 2017 10:32 a.m.
Para: Ruby users; Surya Poojary
Asunto: Re: Ruby without Rails?

I am a beginner like you.

I started to use Ruby one month ago and my priority was
making short scripts for Linux system administration and
controlling the BeagleBone Black.

I must say in this respect Ruby really rocks, these are my arguments about it:

-] It has a REPL that is part of the language (irb) [Perl does not, Python does]

-] It has great features from Perl: builtin regexp, powerful string quoting %q, %Q, nice
string interpolation, clean way to call other shell programs : ` ` .
[Perl has, Python has but IMHO not so practical to use ]

-] You can write long numbers as "100_00_123_4_56", so, you can use Ruby as a pocket calculator, I need it a lot of times. [ Perl has, but it is not born to be used in a REPL,
Python has it only from release 3.6 (i guess) ]

-] As easy to read as Python. But in Ruby you can write your logic in a single line, in Python not. So, good for one-liners. [ Perl is not so nice to read, but rocks in one-liners ]

-] Ruby uses Scheme way of designing methods that return booeleans (with "?") and methods that are destructive(with "!") [ Perl does not, Python does not ]

-] As in Lisp each time you run a "statement" you get a value back. This is very
good, I appreciate it. [ Python does not do it always (AFAIRemember), and Perl,
what it returns it depends on what it expects ]

-] In general, if you know other programming languages you will see
Ruby tries to take the best from each one of them. And, IMHO it succedes.

Given that, I will write all code I was writing in Python, Perl, Bash in Ruby from
now on. Because I think it is a very clean and comprehensive generale purpose tool.

Bye
Nicola

On 14/11/2017 08:21, Surya Poojary wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how people always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

I always feel similar when going through tutorial series. Those are good to
get familiar with basic syntax and concepts of language but don't help much
in increasing interest in programming itself.

May be building something yourself, work for you. ( even it is re-inventing
wheel, it helps ) or you can try to automate your daily tasks by writing
small scripts.

how about contributing to this project -

Looks like it still misses ruby.

Any suggestion for beginner-friendly ruby projects ?

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hi i am graduated in software engineer and i want to learn Ruby.how and
where should i start ?? i am trying to learn code in many languages like
java , C# and recent times in php .. but i am fed after some time .is there
is any solution for this problem ?? will Ruby solve this problem??

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> wrote:

Great!! Ruby rocks!
On 14-Nov-2017 8:23 PM, "趙汝雋" <chiu6700@gmail.com> wrote:

Welcome!

There are lots of great applications without rails. Just to name a few:
homebrew, asciidoctor (my favourite), rake, and many other non-rails
framework like sinatra and hanami.

Heard in rubykaigi that many Japanese use mruby for embedded device.
But never tried it.
2017年11月14日 下午4:49 於 "Surya Poojary" <suryapjr@gmail.com> 寫道:

Thank you !
On 14-Nov-2017 1:31 PM, "Maria Tikhonova" <ritz.rkraft@gmail.com> wrote:

best of luck!

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:

Thanks !!! for the quick reply!!!

Want to become a Rubyist like y'all :slight_smile:
On 14-Nov-2017 12:56 PM, "Xavier Noria" <fxn@hashref.com> wrote:

Yes!

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 at 08:22, Surya Poojary <suryapjr@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:

Hi Rubyists!

I'm a beginner who is trying to learn Ruby. I have noticed how
people always link rails to ruby,I'm sure it's one hell of a framework and
does boosts Ruby's popularity.But I wanted to know if ruby can hold its own
against other languages if there is no rails.

Just a question from a newbie.

Yours Sincerely,

Surya Poojary.

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