Good cross-platform IDE / multiple document text editor for ruby / rails?

(Brock Weaver) #1

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
Here's my requirements:

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional OS X
* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
application for linux.

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

tia

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(Thibaut Barrère) #2

Hi,

I’m quite new to RoR but I’ve tried ArachnoRuby (commercial), FreeRide, and
Eclipse with these plugins http://sourceforge.net/projects/rubyeclipse .

I didn’t find RoR specific plugins but would like to… For the moment I’m
quite happy with the rubyeclipse plugin.

cheers

Thibaut

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2005/8/24, Brock Weaver brockweaver-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org:

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

I’m looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
Here’s my requirements:

  • Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional
    OS X
  • Multiple Document Interface. SciTe’s single doc interface just won’t do
  • Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
  • FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn’t respect my mouse speed
  • Emacs = no go. I’m a vi guy, but not for this situation
  • Teh snappy. Startup time doesn’t matter, text editing does

What I’d really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
application for linux.

I’ve been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven’t tried it out yet – any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

tia


Brock Weaver
[OBC]Technique


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(Aaron Kulbe) #3

What about vim?

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On 8/24/05, Brock Weaver <brockweaver@gmail.com> wrote:

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
Here's my requirements:

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional
OS X
* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
application for linux.

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

tia

--
Brock Weaver
[OBC]Technique

(George) #4

Brock Weaver wrote:

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development. Here's my requirements:

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional OS X
* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
application for linux.

On Linux, I can strongly recommend Kate or KDevelop. Maybe someday (with QT4) they will be available on Windows, too.

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

Personally, I had no good experience with Eclipse.

Regards,

   Michael

(Eric Mahurin) #5

I been using jedit for several years now because it is a very
powerful (plugins galore) point-n-click editor and is
cross-platform (wherever a java is available).

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--- Brock Weaver <brockweaver@gmail.com> wrote:

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a
good
discussion on both lists.

I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails
development.
Here's my requirements:

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse,
with occassional OS X
* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface
just won't do
* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing
does

What I'd really like is something like the windows-only
TextPad
application for linux.

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out
yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

tia

--
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[OBC]Technique

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(Alexandru Popescu) #6

#: Brock Weaver changed the world a bit at a time by saying on 8/24/2005 4:51 PM :#

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development. Here's my requirements:

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional OS X
* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
application for linux.

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

tia

ArachnoRuby: http://www.scriptolutions.com/ruby/ruby_ide_and_ruby_editor.php
Suppored on Windows and Linux (MacOS support is not released yet).

Multiple Document Interface: avail
Debugging: avail
Snappy: full avail

:alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|

(Jonas Pfenniger) #7

It seems that not lot of people know Mondrian IDE. I'm wondering why
people don't use it, because it's as fast as arachno and is coded in
ruby.

[snip]

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional OS X

check

* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do

check

* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor

check, no debugger yet :stuck_out_tongue:

* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed

check, really fast

* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation

not check, there is no :command input

* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

not check, it's too fast for your requirements :stuck_out_tongue:

[snip]

Take a look at it : http://www.mondrian-ide.com/

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On 24/08/05, Brock Weaver <brockweaver@gmail.com> wrote:

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(Rob .) #8

If you're checking out jEdit, don't miss it's Ruby Editor Plugin which
supports method completion for Ruby core types, has an integrated RDoc
viewer and an auto-indent and insert 'end' feature:
http://www.jedit.org/ruby/

* Cross platform.

Yes, jEdit runs on the JVM, hence works in GNU Linux, Mac OSX, Windoze

* Multiple Document Interface

Able to put in screen splits both horizontally and vertically, as many
times as needed.

* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor

No debugging in the plugin yet, but editing is good.

* snappy.

Performs well on recent cpu machines.

The plugin is actively developed and supported by yours truely; if you
have any feedback send me a mail.

cheers,
Rob

(James Britt) #9

Brock Weaver wrote:

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

Maybe OT, but one possible issue with such cross-posting is that not everyone is subscribed to both lists , so replies are not seen by everyone.

James

P.S.

Use vim

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(tony summerfelt) #10

i'm not sure i'd use 'snappy' and 'eclipse' together :slight_smile:

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Brock Weaver wrote on 8/24/2005 10:51 AM: > * Debugging = not needed. can't speak for anyone else, but i'm envious :slight_smile:

* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

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(Gaston Garcia) #11

http://www.vim.org

VIM : )

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brock Weaver <brockweaver@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 24, 2005 7:51 AM
Subject: Good cross-platform IDE / multiple document text editor for ruby /
rails?
To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>, rails@lists.rubyonrails.org

I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
discussion on both lists.

I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
Here's my requirements:

* Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional OS
X
* Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
* Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
* FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
* Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
* Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does

What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
application for linux.

I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
ruby / rails plugins for it?

tia

--
Brock Weaver
[OBC]Technique

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-gaston

(Mando Escamilla) #12

That's what I use. With vim's ability to split windows horizontally and
vertically (and open different buffers in each) and keyword completion,
along with the nice minibuffer explorer plugin on
vim.sourceforge.net<http://vim.sourceforge.net>,
it's about as close to the perfect IDE that a vi user could ask for.

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Mando

On 8/24/05, Aaron Kulbe <akulbe@gmail.com> wrote:

What about vim?

On 8/24/05, Brock Weaver <brockweaver@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
> discussion on both lists.
>
> I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
> Here's my requirements:
>
> * Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with
occassional
> OS X
> * Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't
do
> * Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
> * FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
> * Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
> * Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does
>
> What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
> application for linux.
>
> I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
> ruby / rails plugins for it?
>
> tia
>
> --
> Brock Weaver
> [OBC]Technique
>
>

(Vicente Reig) #13

Hi,

I have been using jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) too for all my projects
under Java, PHP, C/C++ and now Ruby and I feel very comfortable with
it, but Eclipse and it's Ruby Development Tools seems to be cool and
multiplatform, although RDT plugin looks very young yet.

If you want to give a try to Eclipse, there is a quick setup tutorial
at (and download a 100MB zip file O:-) ):

http://dathompson.blogspot.com/2005/07/rails-on-eclipse-31.html

Best regards, Vicente.

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On 8/24/05, Michael Neumann <mneumann@ntecs.de> wrote:

Brock Weaver wrote:
> I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
> discussion on both lists.
>
> I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
> Here's my requirements:
>
> * Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional OS X
> * Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
> * Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
> * FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
> * Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
> * Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does
>
> What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
> application for linux.

On Linux, I can strongly recommend Kate or KDevelop. Maybe someday (with
QT4) they will be available on Windows, too.

> I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
> ruby / rails plugins for it?

Personally, I had no good experience with Eclipse.

Regards,

   Michael

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(Jeff Wood) #14

Also, I know that Lothar is working on multiple platform support in
Arachno ... currently supports windows & linux ... The site says OS X
support is planned.

I use it under Windows and it's a nice editting environment, lots of
little ruby extras.

j.

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On 8/24/05, Aaron Kulbe <akulbe@gmail.com> wrote:

What about vim?

On 8/24/05, Brock Weaver <brockweaver@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
> discussion on both lists.
>
> I'm looking for a good editor for doing ruby / rails development.
> Here's my requirements:
>
> * Cross platform. I spend days on XP and nights on Suse, with occassional
> OS X
> * Multiple Document Interface. SciTe's single doc interface just won't do
> * Debugging = not needed. Just a good editor
> * FreeRIDE = no go. Doesn't respect my mouse speed
> * Emacs = no go. I'm a vi guy, but not for this situation
> * Teh snappy. Startup time doesn't matter, text editing does
>
> What I'd really like is something like the windows-only TextPad
> application for linux.
>
> I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any
> ruby / rails plugins for it?
>
> tia
>
> --
> Brock Weaver
> [OBC]Technique
>
>

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Jeff Wood

(Ivan Vodopiviz) #15

yup, totally forgot about it. but it's a great choice if you're
looking for a cross-platform IDE

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On 8/24/05, zimba-tm <zimba.tm@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems that not lot of people know Mondrian IDE. I'm wondering why
people don't use it, because it's as fast as arachno and is coded in
ruby.

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(Al Gordon) #16

I'd like to use it, but had a hard time getting it installed. Or,
rather, installing (or even locating) some of its required libraries.

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On 8/24/05, zimba-tm <zimba.tm@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems that not lot of people know Mondrian IDE. I'm wondering why
people don't use it, because it's as fast as arachno and is coded in
ruby.

--

  -- AL --

(Randy Kramer) #17

---<good stuff snipped>---

I wasn't going to mention nedit (my favorite editor for five years now, since
I moved from Windows), because I didn't realize it was cross platform:

from http://www.nedit.org/:

"NEdit was originally developed on a Unix system and is available on all major
Unix and Linux systems. But NEdit can also run on other platforms, if there
is a working X Window environment available. For instance, NEdit runs on
MacOS X, OS/2 and MS Windows. The platforms and toolkit pages contain more
details."

I'd almost guarantee it does Ruby syntax highlighting, but if it doesn't, it
has a macro language to let you add that and almost any other feature that
you might think of. (But, not to mislead anyone, it does have a lot of
features built in. It always seems fast (seems likely since it's written in
C) and I edit 1.5 MB files frequently every day.

(It does have a few quirks, some of them related to the Motif/Lesstif GUI it
uses.)

Randy Kramer

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On Wednesday 24 August 2005 01:55 pm, Rob . wrote:

(Jamal Hansen) #18

I made the move to Linux on my home PC about 3 months ago and felt
completely lost in the text editor department until I tried Kate. It
is not cross platform, though on windows (i.e at work) I use UltraEdit
which is very similar in functionality.

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On 8/24/05, Michael Neumann <mneumann@ntecs.de> wrote:

On Linux, I can strongly recommend Kate or KDevelop. Maybe someday (with
QT4) they will be available on Windows, too.

(Randy Kramer) #19

And, Off Point for this post, I guess if I was going to ask for a snappy
whatever, I'd say something about the environment, like snappy on a system
running a 233 MHz Pentium, 256 MB of RAM, running a mix of processes
typically including 5 open edit windows, 10 browser windows, ...

(I guess I'm getting carried away, but I'm sure a lot of developers on their 3
GHz, 1 GB systems think their app is snappy, but then I run it and ;-( (My
system is 500 MHZ with 384 MB of RAM, and a typical mixture of open windows
quite a bit larger than mentioned above--4 open browser with 10-15 tabs each
is not unusual, plus 6-7 konsole "tabs", 3-6 nedit windows, kmail, ...)

regards,
Randy Kramer

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On Thursday 25 August 2005 08:15 am, tony summerfelt wrote:

Brock Weaver wrote on 8/24/2005 10:51 AM: > > I've been leaning towards Eclipse, but haven't tried it out yet -- any > > ruby / rails plugins for it? > > i'm not sure i'd use 'snappy' and 'eclipse' together :slight_smile:

(Randy Kramer) #20

You are absolutely right that that is one of the problems with crossposting.
The typical ways I consider dealing with it include posting my replies to
both (all) lists, but just as crossposting is considered offensive by many,
crossposting replies may be just as or even more offensive.

Do you have any alternate solutions (presuming there was a valid reason for
the crossposting in the first place, which I feel there sometimes is)?

regards,
Randy Kramer

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On Wednesday 24 August 2005 10:54 pm, James Britt wrote:

Brock Weaver wrote:
> I apologize for the cross-post, but I thought it would spur a good
> discussion on both lists.

Maybe OT, but one possible issue with such cross-posting is that not
everyone is subscribed to both lists , so replies are not seen by everyone.