Fixing the gateway (was: Re: separating ruby-talk from comp.lang.ruby?)

ruby-talk
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Hi –

[Note: In response to Dave’s comments I have change the subject
line to something a little more positive :-]

OK, here’s what Dennis most recently wrote me, summarizing what his
NNTP admins told him (pertaining to the mail-> news direction):

  • Tracing messages along their Path throughout the NNTP universe is
    practically impossible
  • There are NNTP hosts which reject certain messages
  • It is not possible to see if a certain message got
    rejected unless the
    host who rejected it is your direct up-/downstream
  • None of our up-/downstreams ever rejected messages from the
    Ruby-lang/c.l.r-gateway

You can see the roots of my pessimism :slight_smile: but I put this out there in
case it suggests anything to anyone, or a starting point for applying
Dave’s testing scenario to the mail->news direction.

Maybe the answer is to figure out if there’s a news admin we can deal
with (perhaps even the good folks at Google) to ensure that, at a very
minimum, the messages make it into the Google Groups archive? I would
imagine that propagation from Google Groups is pretty good.

-austin

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Austin Ziegler wrote:

Maybe the answer is to figure out if there’s a news admin we can deal
with (perhaps even the good folks at Google) to ensure that, at a very
minimum, the messages make it into the Google Groups archive? I would
imagine that propagation from Google Groups is pretty good.

Thank you for renaming this thread

In this new thread, let’s see if we can get some practical suggestions on
how to go about fixing this. Being very specific would be of the most use:

  • concrete things to try/investigate
  • offers to do some of the legwork
  • names of specific persons or organizations
    that may be able to help
  • etc.

My optimistic side keeps telling me that with the resources bof the Ruby
community at large we should be able to nail this (especially if there are
people who are willing to help).

Curt