[ANN] Ruby/automation and infrastructure JOB in Gurgaon, near New Delhi, India

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From: Phil Tomson [mailto:ptkwt@aracnet.com]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:42 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruby/automation and infrastructure JOB in
Gurgaon, near New Delhi, India

In article
B01D18C737644343B0F5E05B8BF2111B0720DD64@delmmsx02.sapient.com,

Hi All,

[I hope that message is not inappropriate]

Thanks to Dave’s and Andy’s Jan 2001 DDJ article, I started
to use Ruby
to automate daily tasks and a set of tools has been created.
If someone in India wants to have fun programming in Ruby and also
handle some infrastructure work, there is an opening in
Gurgaon, near
New Delhi.

Is it possible for US citizens to emigrate to India and work there?

That is probably possible but I am not sure you are ready to take a
significant
pay cut.

Since your name (Christophe) doesn’t sound Indian, I’m going
to go out on a limb and assume that you’re a European that

I am French and I started working for Sapient in Cambridge,
Massachusetts
on January 2001. Now, most of the enterprise application development
work has shifted to India and since the end of July I am in Gurgaon
to mentor the team and transition the knowledge/tools to the team before

I can focus on QA, testing and automation for the company external
client projects.

moved to India to work - can you give us any details on how
this is done and what it’s like to live there?

I am trying to stay longer there and there are some tax implications if
you do not localize (i.e., paying tax in the US and in India).
So I will let you know about that. India is a country full of contrasts:
one the one hand beautiful monuments/views, women in colorful sarees
and other hand poverty, plastic bags lying on the ground.
This is very interesting in term of culture and pace of life.

…I’m just trying to prepare for a possible future when
Americans will have to move to India to find engineering work.

if you can take the heat, that may not be a bad idea. The pace
of life is quite different.

Alternatively, how about telecomuting from the US for this
job? Would it be possible to work from the US? (hey, there’s
a lot of work for US companies being done from India, why not
the other way around?)

You know I was expecting this type of question/reaction. Labor costs as
well
cost of life makes it very attractive to leverage people in countries
like India. However things are not that easy, especially around
communication accross timezone. There is still some work with smaller
structures.

Christophe (who loves testing and automation)

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Christophe Broult cbroult@sapient.com wrote:

Phil

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In article B01D18C737644343B0F5E05B8BF2111B0720DED8@delmmsx02.sapient.com,

From: Phil Tomson [mailto:ptkwt@aracnet.com]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:42 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruby/automation and infrastructure JOB in
Gurgaon, near New Delhi, India

In article
B01D18C737644343B0F5E05B8BF2111B0720DD64@delmmsx02.sapient.com,

Hi All,

[I hope that message is not inappropriate]

Thanks to Dave’s and Andy’s Jan 2001 DDJ article, I started
to use Ruby
to automate daily tasks and a set of tools has been created.
If someone in India wants to have fun programming in Ruby and also
handle some infrastructure work, there is an opening in
Gurgaon, near
New Delhi.

Is it possible for US citizens to emigrate to India and work there?

That is probably possible but I am not sure you are ready to take a
significant
pay cut.

Yeah, I guess that I’d worry about not even making enough money to afford
the return trip to the US.

However, at this point it wouldn’t be a pay cut since you can’t make less
than 0.

Since your name (Christophe) doesn’t sound Indian, I’m going
to go out on a limb and assume that you’re a European that

I am French and I started working for Sapient in Cambridge,
Massachusetts
on January 2001. Now, most of the enterprise application development
work has shifted to India

Ominous signs of things to come…

and since the end of July I am in Gurgaon
to mentor the team and transition the knowledge/tools to the team before

I can focus on QA, testing and automation for the company external
client projects.

moved to India to work - can you give us any details on how
this is done and what it’s like to live there?

I am trying to stay longer there and there are some tax implications if
you do not localize (i.e., paying tax in the US and in India).
So I will let you know about that. India is a country full of contrasts:
one the one hand beautiful monuments/views, women in colorful sarees
and other hand poverty, plastic bags lying on the ground.
This is very interesting in term of culture and pace of life.

…I’m just trying to prepare for a possible future when
Americans will have to move to India to find engineering work.

if you can take the heat, that may not be a bad idea. The pace
of life is quite different.

Might beat having to work at (WalMart|Starbucks|)
in the US.

Phil

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Christophe Broult cbroult@sapient.com wrote:

-----Original Message-----
Christophe Broult cbroult@sapient.com wrote: