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Sean O'Dell [mailto:sean@celsoft.com] :
[...]

Oh, it's fine when personalized insults about the quality of my
projects are posted here, but not when I return the same.

Wrong. I commented specifically on what I saw as shortcomings of
your testing library and what I thought a better action would have
probably been. I *did* make comments about your attitude, proven in
spades, but not an insult.

Honestly, Sean: chill. Contribute to the community.

-austin

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austin ziegler * austin.ziegler@evault.com

I do contribute, and don't count on me "chilling" with anyone who holds
conversations with me the way some people do around here. It's not going to
happen. To get respect, give it, don't ask for it for the sake of "the
community." You and several others have been entirely childish, ignorant,
obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful, unwilling to admit the simplest
mistakes such as not knowing the meaning of the word "arbitrary" and having
to look it up and argue as if it's not a word used every day in the English
language but rather something to dissect and twist around.

Take the personal stuff private, and I'll do the same. So long as it comes
out here, my replies will be here. Anything worth replying to posted here
will be replied here. If you want to go off-list, then email me.

  Sean O'Dell

···

On Tuesday 15 June 2004 14:36, Austin Ziegler wrote:

Sean O'Dell [mailto:sean@celsoft.com] :
[...]

> Oh, it's fine when personalized insults about the quality of my
> projects are posted here, but not when I return the same.

Wrong. I commented specifically on what I saw as shortcomings of
your testing library and what I thought a better action would have
probably been. I *did* make comments about your attitude, proven in
spades, but not an insult.

Honestly, Sean: chill. Contribute to the community.

<META>
Mailing list threads are great. I wish there would be two modes:
  - Factual mode.
  - Emotionnal mode.
That way, people could filter out emotional stuff when they like facts
only.
</META>

Back to emotions.

Hum... I am still waiting for you to:
  1) Admit that "arbitrary" means multiple things, most of them being
very negative and that consequently using it did lead to confusion.
  2) Find a better adjective, to contribute to cleaning the confusion.

Now, having to look it up, as I did, is in no way the sign of
a lack of knowledge, it is not a mistake either. I looked it up to provide
*you* with some authoritative information, hoping that you would understand
why "arbitrary" generated such confusion, due to its multiple meanings.

In light of that information, you may understand that calling me:
  "childish, ignorant, obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful,
  unwilling to admit the simplest mistakes"
hurts my feelings. If you care about that I'll be happy to hear your
apologies.

Yours,

JeanHuguesRobert

···

At 06:46 16/06/2004 +0900, you wrote:

On Tuesday 15 June 2004 14:36, Austin Ziegler wrote:

Sean O'Dell [mailto:sean@celsoft.com] :
[...]

> Oh, it's fine when personalized insults about the quality of my
> projects are posted here, but not when I return the same.

Wrong. I commented specifically on what I saw as shortcomings of
your testing library and what I thought a better action would have
probably been. I *did* make comments about your attitude, proven in
spades, but not an insult.

Honestly, Sean: chill. Contribute to the community.

I do contribute, and don't count on me "chilling" with anyone who holds
conversations with me the way some people do around here. It's not going to
happen. To get respect, give it, don't ask for it for the sake of "the
community." You and several others have been entirely childish, ignorant,
obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful, unwilling to admit the simplest
mistakes such as not knowing the meaning of the word "arbitrary" and having
to look it up and argue as if it's not a word used every day in the English
language but rather something to dissect and twist around.

Take the personal stuff private, and I'll do the same. So long as it comes
out here, my replies will be here. Anything worth replying to posted here
will be replied here. If you want to go off-list, then email me.

       Sean O'Dell

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>> Sean O'Dell [mailto:sean@celsoft.com] :
>> [...]
>>
>> > Oh, it's fine when personalized insults about the quality of my
>> > projects are posted here, but not when I return the same.
>>
>> Wrong. I commented specifically on what I saw as shortcomings of
>> your testing library and what I thought a better action would have
>> probably been. I *did* make comments about your attitude, proven in
>> spades, but not an insult.
>>
>> Honestly, Sean: chill. Contribute to the community.
>
>I do contribute, and don't count on me "chilling" with anyone who holds
>conversations with me the way some people do around here. It's not going
> to happen. To get respect, give it, don't ask for it for the sake of
> "the community." You and several others have been entirely childish,
> ignorant, obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful, unwilling to
> admit the simplest mistakes such as not knowing the meaning of the word
> "arbitrary" and having to look it up and argue as if it's not a word used
> every day in the English language but rather something to dissect and
> twist around.
>
>Take the personal stuff private, and I'll do the same. So long as it
> comes out here, my replies will be here. Anything worth replying to
> posted here will be replied here. If you want to go off-list, then email
> me.
>
> Sean O'Dell

<META>
Mailing list threads are great. I wish there would be two modes:
  - Factual mode.
  - Emotionnal mode.
That way, people could filter out emotional stuff when they like facts
only.
</META>

Back to emotions.

Hum... I am still waiting for you to:
  1) Admit that "arbitrary" means multiple things, most of them being
very negative and that consequently using it did lead to confusion.

You're another one who seems overly concerned with getting certain kinds of
responses from me. I will say only this: I used arbitrary properly, I meant
no harm when I used it, and that few words can be described with absolute
certainty. If you want more, I suggest you adopt a dog; they will obey your
commands.

  2) Find a better adjective, to contribute to cleaning the confusion.

Are you unaware that I removed the word "arbitrary" back when the thread began
and it was noted that its use was being taken badly?

Now, having to look it up, as I did, is in no way the sign of
a lack of knowledge, it is not a mistake either. I looked it up to provide
*you* with some authoritative information, hoping that you would understand
why "arbitrary" generated such confusion, due to its multiple meanings.

I looked it up, too, in three places, to make sure I wasn't mis-using the
word, as I had begun to suspect after the complaints started. It turns out I
was correct, and several people in the thread agreed that my use was valid.

In light of that information, you may understand that calling me:
  "childish, ignorant, obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful,
  unwilling to admit the simplest mistakes"
hurts my feelings. If you care about that I'll be happy to hear your
apologies.

I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, I really am.

  Sean O'Dell

···

On Tuesday 15 June 2004 15:56, Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:

At 06:46 16/06/2004 +0900, you wrote:
>On Tuesday 15 June 2004 14:36, Austin Ziegler wrote:

No offense.
BTW: I tend to prefer cats, they chase rats.
EOM.
Yours,
JeanHuguesRobert

···

At 08:10 16/06/2004 +0900, you wrote:

On Tuesday 15 June 2004 15:56, Jean-Hugues ROBERT wrote:

At 06:46 16/06/2004 +0900, you wrote:
>On Tuesday 15 June 2004 14:36, Austin Ziegler wrote:
>> Sean O'Dell [mailto:sean@celsoft.com] :
>> [...]
>>
>> > Oh, it's fine when personalized insults about the quality of my
>> > projects are posted here, but not when I return the same.
>>
>> Wrong. I commented specifically on what I saw as shortcomings of
>> your testing library and what I thought a better action would have
>> probably been. I *did* make comments about your attitude, proven in
>> spades, but not an insult.
>>
>> Honestly, Sean: chill. Contribute to the community.
>
>I do contribute, and don't count on me "chilling" with anyone who holds
>conversations with me the way some people do around here. It's not going
> to happen. To get respect, give it, don't ask for it for the sake of
> "the community." You and several others have been entirely childish,
> ignorant, obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful, unwilling to
> admit the simplest mistakes such as not knowing the meaning of the word
> "arbitrary" and having to look it up and argue as if it's not a word used
> every day in the English language but rather something to dissect and
> twist around.
>
>Take the personal stuff private, and I'll do the same. So long as it
> comes out here, my replies will be here. Anything worth replying to
> posted here will be replied here. If you want to go off-list, then email
> me.
>
> Sean O'Dell

<META>
Mailing list threads are great. I wish there would be two modes:
  - Factual mode.
  - Emotionnal mode.
That way, people could filter out emotional stuff when they like facts
only.
</META>

Back to emotions.

Hum... I am still waiting for you to:
  1) Admit that "arbitrary" means multiple things, most of them being
very negative and that consequently using it did lead to confusion.

You're another one who seems overly concerned with getting certain kinds of
responses from me. I will say only this: I used arbitrary properly, I meant
no harm when I used it, and that few words can be described with absolute
certainty. If you want more, I suggest you adopt a dog; they will obey your
commands.

  2) Find a better adjective, to contribute to cleaning the confusion.

Are you unaware that I removed the word "arbitrary" back when the thread began
and it was noted that its use was being taken badly?

Now, having to look it up, as I did, is in no way the sign of
a lack of knowledge, it is not a mistake either. I looked it up to provide
*you* with some authoritative information, hoping that you would understand
why "arbitrary" generated such confusion, due to its multiple meanings.

I looked it up, too, in three places, to make sure I wasn't mis-using the
word, as I had begun to suspect after the complaints started. It turns out I
was correct, and several people in the thread agreed that my use was valid.

In light of that information, you may understand that calling me:
  "childish, ignorant, obstinate, illiterate and willfully prideful,
  unwilling to admit the simplest mistakes"
hurts my feelings. If you care about that I'll be happy to hear your
apologies.

I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, I really am.

       Sean O'Dell

ng your feelings, I really am.

       Sean O'Dell

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Phone: +33 (0) 4 92 27 74 17