This came up in another thread, but I haven't seen an answer there so here's
a new thread:
A year or more ago there was a big push to create an improved Ruby website.
Something that would look nicer and promote Ruby better than the current one.
There were prototypes created that looked rather nice as I recall, but then it
all seemed to disappear. What happened?
Phil
Phil Tomson wrote:
This came up in another thread, but I haven't seen an answer there so here's a new thread:
A year or more ago there was a big push to create an improved Ruby website. Something that would look nicer and promote Ruby better than the current one.
There were prototypes created that looked rather nice as I recall, but then it all seemed to disappear. What happened?
We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people. 
The design has been in HTML since last summer, but we have wrestled with picking the right content management system. We finally decided to do something custom which is almost complete. After that we will need to port most of the content from the old site over and make some content tweaks. Then deployment. The fact that this is a multi-lingual Web site also complicates things.
Expect something in 3 to 6 months. Hopefully, much earlier.
--
John Long
http://wiseheartdesign.com
The blog is here: http://redhanded.hobix.com/redesign2005/
Who knows when they'll launch something new.
On 3/7/06, Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
This came up in another thread, but I haven't seen an answer there so
here's
a new thread:A year or more ago there was a big push to create an improved Ruby
website.
Something that would look nicer and promote Ruby better than the current
one.
There were prototypes created that looked rather nice as I recall, but
then it
all seemed to disappear. What happened?Phil
John W. Long wrote:
We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people.
been in HTML since last summer, but we have wrestled with picking the
right content management system. We finally decided to do something
custom which is almost complete. After that we will need to port most of
the content from the old site over and make some content tweaks. Then
deployment. The fact that this is a multi-lingual Web site also
complicates things.Expect something in 3 to 6 months. Hopefully, much earlier.
I'd be willing to donate some time if there's any way I can help? (I'm
sure some others would be too.)
Jeff
cohen.jeff {at} gmail.com
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Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/\.
Thanks for all your efforts. I'm curious as to what requirements led you to
create your own CMS? I'm doing some work/research in this area and I'd like
to know what was 'missing' from the available systems you considered. What
systems did you consider? Even just a few off the cuff thoughts would be
appreciated.
Gary Wright
On Mar 7, 2006, at 6:25 PM, John W. Long wrote:
We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people.
In article <440E1621.3080508@johnwlong.com>,
John W. Long <ng@johnwlong.com> wrote:
Phil Tomson wrote:
This came up in another thread, but I haven't seen an answer there so here's
a new thread:A year or more ago there was a big push to create an improved Ruby website.
Something that would look nicer and promote Ruby better than the current one.
There were prototypes created that looked rather nice as I recall, but then it
all seemed to disappear. What happened?We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people.
been in HTML since last summer, but we have wrestled with picking the
right content management system. We finally decided to do something
custom which is almost complete. After that we will need to port most of
the content from the old site over and make some content tweaks. Then
deployment. The fact that this is a multi-lingual Web site also
complicates things.Expect something in 3 to 6 months. Hopefully, much earlier.
Good to hear that there is ongoing work on the project.
BTW: will this content management system by available?
Phil
Better than stopping to write TeX first, at least Looking forward to
the new site!
martin
John W. Long <ng@johnwlong.com> wrote:
We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people.
been in HTML since last summer, but we have wrestled with picking the
right content management system. We finally decided to do something
custom which is almost complete. After that we will need to port most of
the content from the old site over and make some content tweaks. Then
deployment. The fact that this is a multi-lingual Web site also
complicates things.Expect something in 3 to 6 months. Hopefully, much earlier.
I'm willing to donate some time to that cause.
On Mar 7, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Jeff Cohen wrote:
John W. Long wrote:
We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people.
been in HTML since last summer, but we have wrestled with picking the
right content management system. We finally decided to do something
custom which is almost complete. After that we will need to port most of
the content from the old site over and make some content tweaks. Then
deployment. The fact that this is a multi-lingual Web site also
complicates things.Expect something in 3 to 6 months. Hopefully, much earlier.
I'd be willing to donate some time if there's any way I can help? (I'm
sure some others would be too.)
--
Jason Perkins
jperkins@sneer.org
"The computer allows you to make mistakes
faster than any other invention, with the
possible exception of handguns and tequila."
Perhaps the reason was "eating your own dog food"? A Ruby CMS?
On Mar 7, 2006, at 11:21 PM, gwtmp01@mac.com wrote:
On Mar 7, 2006, at 6:25 PM, John W. Long wrote:
We have a crew of enthusiastic, but very busy people.
Thanks for all your efforts. I'm curious as to what requirements led you to
create your own CMS? I'm doing some work/research in this area and I'd like
to know what was 'missing' from the available systems you considered. What
systems did you consider? Even just a few off the cuff thoughts would be
appreciated.Gary Wright
gwtmp01@mac.com wrote:
I'm curious as to what requirements led you to create your own CMS? I'm
> doing some work/research in this area and I'd like
to know what was 'missing' from the available systems you considered. What
systems did you consider? Even just a few off the cuff thoughts would be
appreciated.
For starters we were looking for something in Ruby. At the moment there is not a general purpose CMS available for Ruby. We considered using Hobix for the blog part and something like Hieraki for the documentation section, but neither one seemed to be a good fit for the Ruby site. We also looked at Typo. In the end, we realized that in order to get any of the existing systems to work together we would have to do so much customization that it would be difficult to maintain. I've also had an itch for creating my own CMS and thought this would be a good project to try out some of my ideas. I spent the month of January working on the CMS and am very pleased with how it is turning out. I've got about a week's worth of work left on it before it will be ready for ruby-lang.org.
You can read about my progress on my Web site:
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/05/first-look
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/05/creating-a-new-page
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/12/javascript-bliss
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/31/behaviors
I plan to open source it in the future and will be looking for contributors. E-mail me off-list if you are interested.
--
John Long
http://wiseheartdesign.com
Phil Tomson wrote:
Good to hear that there is ongoing work on the project.
BTW: will this content management system by available?
Yup. As soon as I can break away from the Ruby Web site long enough to make it available. It will be opensource.
--
John
I know of the various wiki and blog frameworks in Ruby.
I haven't really found any CMS frameworks, which is why I asked the
question. Maybe there is something out there that I'm not aware of.
Gary Wright
On Mar 7, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Ken Collins wrote:
Perhaps the reason was "eating your own dog food"? A Ruby CMS?
John W. Long wrote:
You can read about my progress on my Web site:
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/05/first-look
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/05/creating-a-new-page
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/12/javascript-bliss
http://wiseheartdesign.com/articles/2006/01/31/behaviorsI plan to open source it in the future and will be looking for
contributors. E-mail me off-list if you are interested.
I really can't wait for you to release the code for this. Please do so
as soon as possible, even if you think it's not ready for prime time
or even if it would only be made available via CVS or svn or something.
I wrote a Ruby-based CMS myself (which I am too shy to link to here...
it's painfully in need of a rewrite in either Rails or Nitro+Og), but
yours looks droolworthy.
I've been wanting something that gives the ease of WordPress, but
broadened into general-purpose website creation.
Pistos
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Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/\.
Thanks for your offer to help.
What we are mostly going to need help with is moving exiting content
from ruby-lang.org to the new site, and some writing of new content
(we will have a list of what we need).
If you think you'll have time to help with this, send me a private
email (curt at hibbs dot com).
Curt
On 3/7/06, Jason Perkins <jperkins@sneer.org> wrote:
On Mar 7, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Jeff Cohen wrote:
>
> I'd be willing to donate some time if there's any way I can help?
> (I'm
> sure some others would be too.)I'm willing to donate some time to that cause.
In article <E4C60EB1-F8B1-47B8-A807-218518B20CEE@metaskills.net>,
Ken Collins <ken@metaskills.net> wrote:
Perhaps the reason was "eating your own dog food"? A Ruby CMS?
Yes, this seems important for a Ruby site to have a CMS written in Ruby. We've
bot web programming framesworks like Rails and Nitro, but I don't think there's
been a CMS package in Ruby.
Phil
Pistos Christou wrote:
I really can't wait for you to release the code for this. Please do so as soon as possible, even if you think it's not ready for prime time
I can't wait to release it either. All in good time though. As I've said the feature set for the new Ruby-Lang.org is almost complete. When I've finished that I will probably give the public anonymous access to the repository and begin asking for feedback. There are limits to one man's creativity.
--
John
Gary, have you looked at Pandora (http://pandora.rubyveil.com/)? Not
exactly a CMS, but it may meet some of your requirements.
Best regards,
Julian I. Kamil <julian.kamil@gmail.com>
http://pandora.rubyveil.com/ - Document publishing and web application
framework
http://books.rubyveil.com/ - The Ruby Bookshelf
Thanks for the pointer. I'll check it out.
Gary Wright
On Mar 8, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Julian I. Kamil wrote:
Gary, have you looked at Pandora (http://pandora.rubyveil.com/\)? Not
exactly a CMS, but it may meet some of your requirements.