I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
jmh
All of the above. My biggest use of Ruby is for writing web applications
for businesses, as well as using it to power web sites with dynamic content
such as mutual fund price information, construction site reports, and stuff
like that, and even in some cases to be the power behind entire web sites.
Secondarily I also use it for sys admin tasks and non-web application that
are both internaly and externaly facing.
Kirk Haines
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:26:10 +0900, jmh wrote
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
The short answer is 'yes'. 
The longer answer is:
People use ruby for virtually everything. I'm using it for small
sys-admin tasks, web content (rewriting my site in Ruby atm), small
gui-apps etc... Only thing I can think of as a a drawback in Ruby (for
me at least) is speed.
If you're writing code that relies heavily on speed (especially startup
speed) I don't think Ruby is the perfect deal, but then again... I've
only been Rubying for a short while compared to some of the gurus here.
So one might be able to speed up the code somehow, I just don't know
how... Yet...
E.g. I know batsman has written a wonderful package-manager in Ruby
(RPA (Ruby Production Archive) - http://rpa-base.rubyforge.org), which
handles Ruby packages sorta similar to the way apt-get of Debian, Yum of
YellowDog, ports of FreeBSD and emerge of Gentoo does (yes, the list
could go on forever). ("sorta similar" on userlevel at least.) It's a
really cool piece of software and now that I think of it, it's pretty
fast as well... Just one demonstration that Ruby is perfectly mature and
suitable for production level use.
Well, my 2 cents on this subject... Next!
Madsen
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:19:36 -0400 jmh <j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
--
Anders K. Madsen --- http://lillesvin.linux.dk
"There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those who understand binary - and those who don't."
I recently created a commercial application which was
a soap server. Converted tabulated files to sql, then
gave out SOAP rpc form.
Ruby can be used for administrative tasks, it is easy
to script tasks in then per say.. bourne shell(sh)
There are various ruby toolkit bindings, I don't know
of any big gui apps written in ruby.
There are certain commercial software products using
ruby as an embedded language as well, though I cannot
think of the name now. It was mentioned a while back
on the list.
--David Ross
--- jmh <j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about
it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and
will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was
curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily
for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External
customers?
Commercial applications?jmh
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* satelite image processing using combinations of ImageMagick, Mmap, and
custom C libs. wrapping native code gives a good blend of processing speed
vs. development time. we are research oriented to tend to try alot of
things and throw them away - this is painful in C.
* driving legacy applications with wrappers - fortran, c, idl, envi, etc.
glue code.
* linux clustering software using sqlite to maintain nfs mounted work
queues used to distribute computing tasks to 50+ nodes
* all sorts of daemon tasks - writing a daemon w/o GC is evil
* bi-temporal database emulation over postgresql (programming api)
* parsing, parsing, parsing. csv, ascii, and horrible scientific binary
formats.
* all manner of db code
* html generation - static and dynamic
* gui apps - mostly using tk to control previously written command line tools
* unit testing c code. easier to glue to ruby and test there than to test in
C!
* code generation. ruby -> ruby, ruby -> sh, ruby -> c
* and very little sys admin tasks!
-a
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, jmh wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a while (few
years). I've started looking into it and will get around to compiling it in
the next few weeks but was curious how people are using the language. Is it
primarily for sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
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Hi jmh,
jmh wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
And of course the famous site: http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RealWorldRuby
There are lots of examples of Real World Ruby Usage.
--
Sascha Ebach
I use Ruby for modelling/simulating quantum computation:
http://nexp.cs.pdx.edu/~qc/cgi-bin/view/QC/QuantumDesignLanguage
....which doesn't really fit into any of the above catagories
Phil
In article <9yASc.15093$Yf6.3069@lakeread03>, jmh <j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
Everything I possibly can Mostly parsing and code generation these
days - ruby makes it easy to iteratively design code to read and write
random file formats.
martin
jmh <j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
jmh wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External customers?
Commercial applications?
Personally, I've started to use Ruby for things that I used to use Perl for. Mainly writing short scripts (1-2 pages) for sysadmin tasks. Or writing one liners. I've also chosen Ruby instead of Perl for almost anything above 2-3 pages.
One area where I haven't started using Ruby is web applications. Guess that's mainly because I'm lazy (which is a virtue, right? :-). I'm currently using PHP for most web apps. Our PHP installation already has various extensions installed, so I just need to look at a single PHP manual to do various stuffs (image manipulation, crypt/MD5/checksumming, file uploads, session management, database access, etc). It's very convenient.
I'm sure I'll get around to learning one of the web framework and gems someday...
--
dave
Hi,
I use Ruby-GTK for my GUI apps. For example, there is
a little tcl/c/tk chess viewer called Scid that I used
to download a lot to view chess games in .pgn files,
but now I have my own viewer which fits perfectly. I
needed a Firebird (database) administrator on Linux,
but now I've written such a tool which is useful
enough for me. My IRC client is custom-written as
well. And now every GUI tool that I need won't take me
more than 10 minutes to build. My current priority is
to develop the ultimate GUI library (for me at least)
called Gtk_Rules (based on Ruby-GTK, of course) which
should have at least: 1) Very easy and simplified GUI
code; 2) Database support (data-aware components); 3)
PDF Report generation (using PDF-Writer); 4)
Persistence support; etc.
Lots of fun!
Cheers,
Joao
--- jmh <j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about
it for a
while (few years). I've started looking into it and
will get
around to compiling it in the next few weeks but was
curious
how people are using the language. Is it primarily
for
sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External
customers?
Commercial applications?jmh
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Nothing so cool as quantum computing libraries for me...mostly just
web service clients, business automation tools, and systems/network
administration. That, and slowly merging all my email, weblog,
netnews, mobile phone, etc. messaging addresses and endpoints into
some sort of uber-mailbox -- needless to say, that's a work in
progress.
Lennon
Nice. I thought about doing scientific computations,
but was not aware about overhead. 
Does it work
decent for you? --David Ross
In article <9yASc.15093$Yf6.3069@lakeread03>, jmh
>I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about
it for a
>while (few years). I've started looking into it and
will get
>around to compiling it in the next few weeks but
was curious
>how people are using the language. Is it primarily
for
>sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External
customers?
>Commercial applications?
>I use Ruby for modelling/simulating quantum
computation:
http://nexp.cs.pdx.edu/~qc/cgi-bin/view/QC/QuantumDesignLanguage
--- Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
<j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
....which doesn't really fit into any of the above
catagoriesPhil
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Sascha Ebach wrote:
And of course the famous site: http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RealWorldRuby
There are lots of examples of Real World Ruby Usage.
One area which amazingly hasn't been conquered after years and years is the popular, widely deployed applications. Where are the Ruby Mailmans, PHPBBs, Movable Type's, and GForges?
--
dave
I've noted that ruby developers seem to prefer wrting libraries to
applications
martin
David Garamond <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com> wrote:
Sascha Ebach wrote:
> And of course the famous site: Captcha
>
> There are lots of examples of Real World Ruby Usage.One area which amazingly hasn't been conquered after years and years is
the popular, widely deployed applications. Where are the Ruby Mailmans,
PHPBBs, Movable Type's, and GForges?
"David Garamond" <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:411B3C52.9030705@zara.6.isreserved.com...
Sascha Ebach wrote:
> And of course the famous site:
http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RealWorldRuby
>
> There are lots of examples of Real World Ruby Usage.One area which amazingly hasn't been conquered after years and years is
the popular, widely deployed applications. Where are the Ruby Mailmans,
PHPBBs, Movable Type's, and GForges?
It's probably an economic reason: it's usually far more effort to
reimplement something in a new language instead of extending and
maintaining something existing.
Kind regards
robert
In article <20040812070323.58779.qmail@web21526.mail.yahoo.com>,
Nice. I thought about doing scientific computations,
but was not aware about overhead.
decent for you? --David Ross
I'm definately going to have to re-implement some of the matrix functions
in C, but that shouldn't be too difficult.
David Ross <drossruby@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
In article <9yASc.15093$Yf6.3069@lakeread03>, jmh
<j_m_h@cox.net> wrote:
>I'm not currently a Ruby user but have heard about
it for a
>while (few years). I've started looking into it and
will get
>around to compiling it in the next few weeks but
was curious
>how people are using the language. Is it primarily
for
>sys admin tasks? Internal applications? External
customers?
>Commercial applications?
>I use Ruby for modelling/simulating quantum
computation:http://nexp.cs.pdx.edu/~qc/cgi-bin/view/QC/QuantumDesignLanguage
....which doesn't really fit into any of the above
catagoriesPhil
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blog apps. And GForge? Why rewrite what works
Ari
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:46:01PM +0900, David Garamond wrote:
Sascha Ebach wrote:
>And of course the famous site: http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RealWorldRuby
>
>There are lots of examples of Real World Ruby Usage.One area which amazingly hasn't been conquered after years and years is
the popular, widely deployed applications. Where are the Ruby Mailmans,
PHPBBs, Movable Type's, and GForges?
I like making generate patterns with ruby
http://prime.rubyforge.org/hexagon1/pat1.html
On Thursday 12 August 2004 12:01, Martin DeMello wrote:
David Garamond <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com> wrote:
> One area which amazingly hasn't been conquered after years and years is
> the popular, widely deployed applications. Where are the Ruby Mailmans,
> PHPBBs, Movable Type's, and GForges?I've noted that ruby developers seem to prefer wrting libraries to
applications
--
Simon Strandgaard
I don't think that is true. People write libraries because the libraries
help them accomplish some other goal. It's just that the libraries are the
only publically consumable parts of whatever that other goal is.
I'm writing a small application right now, for example. It is a management
panel for a mutual fund company to enter and maintain various pieces of
information about their funds, all of which in turn gets queried and
displayed in some format on their web site. It's a very simple, boring
application with a very narrow purpose, and I would venture to guess that
much of the application programming that goes on with Ruby has a similar
sort of narrow scope for a specific client and purpose, so those
applications tend to not get mentioned or released nearly so much as the
libraries that people create to help them with the applications.
Kirk Haines
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:01:11 +0900, Martin DeMello wrote
I've noted that ruby developers seem to prefer wrting libraries to
applications
Martin DeMello wrote:
David Garamond <lists@zara.6.isreserved.com> wrote:
Sascha Ebach wrote:
And of course the famous site: http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?RealWorldRuby
There are lots of examples of Real World Ruby Usage.
One area which amazingly hasn't been conquered after years and years is the popular, widely deployed applications. Where are the Ruby Mailmans, PHPBBs, Movable Type's, and GForges?
I've noted that ruby developers seem to prefer wrting libraries to
applications
Quite true. I wonder if there is a (Rubyland) cultural explanation?
Actually, the Japanese developers tend to produce more apps than the
rest of us, do they not?
Hal