Would it be appropriate/cool if I based the rubyx logo on this symbol?
Any comments appreciated, especially from japanese speakers incase this would
be some massive faux-pas…
Andrew Walrond
PS I don’t know if faux pas travels well. Just in case, its a french phrase
used by the english, meaning a slip or blunder in etiquette, manners, or
conduct; an embarrassing social blunder or indiscretion.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:42:02 +0900, Andrew Walrond wrote:
: I’ve been thinking about a logo for Rubyx, my ruby based
: linux distro.
:
: In some small recognition of ruby’s origins, I thought
: I might use a kanji symbol. With that in mind, I discovered
: the kanji symbol for force/power/ability. See here
: http://www.ajisai.sakura.ne.jp/~saku/yuki/kanji/index.htm
Is this? (14x14 bitmap mimic.)
;
,;,
; ;
,’ ;
,’ ;
,’ ,’
,’ ,’
This reads ‘Chikara’, for example.
: Any comments appreciated, especially from japanese speakers
: incase this would be some massive faux-pas…
In my knowledge there isn’t. But it has a faux-ami ‘Ka’ in
"katakana" (one of Japanese phonetic syllabaries). See:
http://www2.tokai.or.jp/yuki/katakana.htm
Some kanji compounds (Jukugo) related to ‘Chikara’ would be
your right clue. What kind of force/power/ability do you want
with this distro?
Would it be appropriate/cool if I based the rubyx logo on this symbol?
Any comments appreciated, especially from japanese speakers incase this
would be some massive faux-pas…
Andrew Walrond
PS I don’t know if faux pas travels well. Just in case, its a french phrase
used by the english, meaning a slip or blunder in etiquette, manners, or
conduct; an embarrassing social blunder or indiscretion.
In my knowledge there isn’t. But it has a faux-ami ‘Ka’ in
“katakana” (one of Japanese phonetic syllabaries). See:
Yes I see - it looks identical to me!
Some kanji compounds (Jukugo) related to ‘Chikara’ would be
your right clue. What kind of force/power/ability do you want
with this distro?
Well I was just looking for an aesthetic graphic to use as a larger backround
graphic over which I could superimpose ‘rubyx’ in smaller English. To
japanese readers, it would suggest that rubyx was a powerful operating
system. To the rest of us, it would merely be pretty
Do you see what I’m getting at? Does it work? or would a japanese reader just
think “Ka? what the hell is that all about?”
Perhaps you could suggest suitable alternatives? Much as I’d love to learn
japanese, I have to consider it overkill as a solution for the current
problem domain
Regards
Andrew Walrond
···
On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 1:46 pm, SugHimsi==SUGIHARA Hiroshi wrote:
I’m quite interested in your ruby OS. Perhaps I can help out somewhere
although I only started programming recently.
Cool! Lots of jobs need doing; Keeping track of package releases springs to
mind…
I’m keen to know what state RubyX is in at the moment?
Up and running very nicely
Is there documentation anywhere - where does the project live ? Is it on
sourceforge or somewhere?
I’m doing the definative howto as we speak. Watch this space…
Is it just a command line distro at the moment ? Is it slower than linux
as its non compiled?
No - it’s a full distro. It’s also compiled and potentially faster than most
binary distros. The rubyx script is written in ruby and downloads and
compiles all the other packages which make up the full os
Is it in a state or will it ever be in a astate where one could run KDE on
it ? or are there plans for a new Desktop ?
It has run Kde for quite a while, and Gnome as of today. If you want any other
window manager, I can probably include it in a couple hours. But as for
writing a new Desktop; no. Kde and Gnome are already excellent and I’m afraid
I implemented rubyx as only one small component of a much bigger project, so
time is limited
how have you handled all the linuxy stuff like file systems, proc and
devices?
Thats a big question. rest assured it all works.
does it run with the linux kernel ? or does it have a Ruby kernel ?
Maybe I’ll knock up a rubyx kernel next week No, Linus is safe for the
moment
Well I was just looking for an aesthetic graphic to use as a larger backround
graphic over which I could superimpose ‘rubyx’ in smaller English. To
japanese readers, it would suggest that rubyx was a powerful operating
system. To the rest of us, it would merely be pretty
Do you see what I’m getting at? Does it work? or would a japanese reader just
think “Ka? what the hell is that all about?”
I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve read some very amusing
“Engrish” and I am sure that any effort I made to use Japanese would
be far more (am|conf)using.
Actually I used a “Ruby” graphic in the Ruby.shop (see rubyhacker.com)
for similar esthetic reasons. And someone pointed out that many people
seeing that symbol would think immediately of a certain variety of
apple. I left it there anyway. It still looks cool to non-Japanese
speakers.
Perhaps you could suggest suitable alternatives? Much as I’d love to learn
japanese, I have to consider it overkill as a solution for the current
problem domain
Learning Japanese is on my lifetime to-do list, along with
learning piano, violin, Esperanto, Latin, and Lisp.
Life is so short…
Thanks for answering all my questions - reading that back - it was a bit of a
barrage !
I’m looking forward to having a go with rubyx.
One last question (I promise) ! - is Rubyx a linux distro which is cobbled
together from linux parts by a Ruby script? Or is it actually fully
implemented in Ruby ?
I’m using Gentoo at the moment -= purely because I like the portage system and
the spped at which the system runs after compiliation. (although on some of
my machines compilation took more than a week of 24 hour days !!)
On the logo - I love Oriental looking designs - maybe a bit of Fire and Water
and Earth and Air all emblazoned on a pretty Ruby Gem with the Japanese
symbol standing out on top, but done in a very modern and minamilist way -
bordering on the cold aspect of technology.
Anyway - keep up the good work
Kingsley
···
On Monday 27 October 2003 20:59, Andrew Walrond wrote:
On Monday 27 Oct 2003 8:07 pm, Kingsley wrote:
Hi
I’m quite interested in your ruby OS. Perhaps I can help out somewhere
although I only started programming recently.
Cool! Lots of jobs need doing; Keeping track of package releases springs to
mind…
I’m keen to know what state RubyX is in at the moment?
Up and running very nicely
Is there documentation anywhere - where does the project live ? Is it on
sourceforge or somewhere?
I’m doing the definative howto as we speak. Watch this space…
Is it just a command line distro at the moment ? Is it slower than
linux as its non compiled?
No - it’s a full distro. It’s also compiled and potentially faster than
most binary distros. The rubyx script is written in ruby and downloads and
compiles all the other packages which make up the full os
Is it in a state or will it ever be in a astate where one could run KDE
on it ? or are there plans for a new Desktop ?
It has run Kde for quite a while, and Gnome as of today. If you want any
other window manager, I can probably include it in a couple hours. But as
for writing a new Desktop; no. Kde and Gnome are already excellent and I’m
afraid I implemented rubyx as only one small component of a much bigger
project, so time is limited
how have you handled all the linuxy stuff like file systems, proc and
devices?
Thats a big question. rest assured it all works.
does it run with the linux kernel ? or does it have a Ruby kernel ?
Maybe I’ll knock up a rubyx kernel next week No, Linus is safe for the
moment
‘Ka’ in
‘Ka’ in