I am associated with a company (Tinker Internet Services -
http://www.tinker.com/) that provides web hosting services. The company is
considering adding Ruby web hosting as an additional service, but we aren’t
sure if there is enough demand for it to justify the initial setup costs.
So, I thought I’d try to get a feel for the current demand by asking the
list if they, or anyone they know of, would be interested in Ruby web
hosting.
To prevent cluttering up the mailing list with a lot of responses that
would most likely not be of interest to the rest of the list, please reply
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Absolutely, however your costs are through the roof! $250 per month (plus
$250 setup fee) for a database/scripting virtual web server package is
literally more than 10 times what I’m currently paying. What are the
services you are planning to add? mod_ruby? eruby?
When I joined JaguarPC as my virtual host , they did not have Ruby
installed. So I asked them to do so and they did at no extra charge.
(This did not include mod-ruby or eruby, but then I didn;t ask for it.)
I’m paying $15 USD for 800 meg storage and 20 gig bandwidth. Lots of
other goodies. They’ve been reliable.
Harold
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:03:40 +0900, Warren Brown wrote:
All,
I am associated with a company (Tinker Internet Services -
http://www.tinker.com/) that provides web hosting services. The company
is considering adding Ruby web hosting as an additional service, but we
aren’t sure if there is enough demand for it to justify the initial setup
costs. So, I thought I’d try to get a feel for the current demand by
asking the list if they, or anyone they know of, would be interested in
Ruby web hosting.
To prevent cluttering up the mailing list with a lot of responses that
would most likely not be of interest to the rest of the list, please reply
to me off-list at mailto:wkb@airmail.net.
I am associated with a company (Tinker Internet Services - http://www.tinker.com/) that provides web hosting services. The company is
considering adding Ruby web hosting as an additional service, but we aren’t
sure if there is enough demand for it to justify the initial setup costs.
What setup costs? Does it take that long to install Ruby and add
mod_ruby to Apache?
Or are there other issues involved with running Ruby?
Virtual hosting with Ruby CGI & MySQL costs $9/month from rootr.net.
</plug type=“just a satisfied customer”>
-michael
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:36:59 +0900 Frank Fejes frank@nospam.org wrote:
Absolutely, however your costs are through the roof! $250 per month
(plus$250 setup fee) for a database/scripting virtual web server
package is literally more than 10 times what I’m currently paying.
What are the services you are planning to add? mod_ruby? eruby?
… but we aren’t
sure if there is enough demand for it to justify the initial setup costs.
What setup costs? Does it take that long to install Ruby and add
mod_ruby to Apache?
Usually not …
The packages are available in Debian/stable and as .rpm packages.
The file
/usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-ruby/examples/httpd.conf
contains all necessary configuration code which can be included nearly
unmodified in the /etc/apache/httpd.conf. The only necessary changes are
to uncomment the ruby features you want to offer
(eruby, …)
Probably you should add “index.rhtml” to the DirectoryIndex, but that’s all.
Or are there other issues involved with running Ruby?
The only issues I see are possibly security problems when trying to
configure it using suexec and different rights per vhost etc.
Virtual hosting with Ruby CGI & MySQL costs $9/month from rootr.net.
</plug type=“just a satisfied customer”>
-michael
I heartily second the praise of RootRoute! They host my website and my
wife’s. They have been very responsive to any request I have.
Jamey.
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Or are there other issues involved with running Ruby?
The only issues I see are possibly security problems when trying to
configure it using suexec and different rights per vhost etc.
Well, mod_ruby and suexec are mutually exclusive – mod_ruby runs things
in core, so there’s no chance to change user ids. If you run ruby as a
CGI, then it’s just as easy if not easier than running PHP with suexec,
but you don’t get the nice integration with apache’s request model.
Caveat usor.
I imagine it would be possible to have a mod_ruby+drb solution where
mod_ruby pre-runs some code for each hit, forks, changes user IDs, sets
up DRb objects for the apache request and emulates that environment
despite the fact that it’s now two processes with different uids. It
obviously won’t be as efficient as mod_ruby, but anything that forks
won’t be.
Is there anyone who knows more about it?
I guess that would be me… seven years of writing web software in free
scripting languages and helping set them up securely on the ISP’s side
is some qualification.
I guess the one thing that PHP has over Ruby for web based programs is
that users can’t modify the interpreter state… but that’s limits in
mod_php, not in mod_ruby.
