Hello!
I might have missed past discussions, but where may I find comparisons
between Ruby and the rest of the major programming languages out there?
If there are none, how about we make one?
Remember the key to good writing: SHOW DON'T TELL!
I hope we can generate some good info here 
All the best,
Kyrre
"10 Things Every Java Programmer Should Know About Ruby" comes to mind (ruby-doc.org). There's also a project (can't remember the name offhand) which is attempting to catalog how to accomplish common operations in a wide array of languages.
But I think a lot of what you'll find out there is more statistical and dry than what you might be looking for. Judging from the aggressive subject of this thread.
What if we turned the "10 things..." idea into a series? Have the ruby community submit articles for their 2nd favorite programming language. I like the idea. I might start drafting something like that for PHP->Ruby converts like myself.
-Mat
On Jun 19, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Kyrre Nygard wrote:
Hello!
I might have missed past discussions, but where may I find comparisons
between Ruby and the rest of the major programming languages out there?If there are none, how about we make one?
Remember the key to good writing: SHOW DON'T TELL!
I hope we can generate some good info here
All the best,
Kyrre
We'll, there's some content going up on the new ruby site that might
be similar to what you're looking for:
http://new.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ruby-from-other-languages/
---John
On 6/19/06, Kyrre Nygard <kyrreny@broadpark.no> wrote:
Hello!
I might have missed past discussions, but where may I find comparisons
between Ruby and the rest of the major programming languages out there?If there are none, how about we make one?
Remember the key to good writing: SHOW DON'T TELL!
I liked this:
http://www.ntecs.de/old-hp/s-direktnet/rb/download_ruby.html
-- Elliot Temple
On Jun 19, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Kyrre Nygard wrote:
Hello!
I might have missed past discussions, but where may I find comparisons
between Ruby and the rest of the major programming languages out there?
There's this one I saw on reddit today:
http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html
It compares a fractal program written in several languages.
BTW: anyone know what's going on with the Vectorized Io version?
Couldn't we create a vectorized Ruby version as well?
Phil
On 6/19/06, Kyrre Nygard <kyrreny@broadpark.no> wrote:
Hello!
I might have missed past discussions, but where may I find comparisons
between Ruby and the rest of the major programming languages out there?If there are none, how about we make one?
Remember the key to good writing: SHOW DON'T TELL!
I hope we can generate some good info here
PLEAC
Comes nicely syntax-highlighted (highlit?) too!
---John
On 6/19/06, Mat Schaffer <schapht@gmail.com> wrote:
There's also a project (can't remember the name
offhand) which is attempting to catalog how to accomplish common
operations in a wide array of languages.
You guys are always one step ahead of me.... 
-Mat
On Jun 19, 2006, at 1:43 PM, John Gabriele wrote:
On 6/19/06, Kyrre Nygard <kyrreny@broadpark.no> wrote:
We'll, there's some content going up on the new ruby site that might
be similar to what you're looking for:
http://new.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ruby-from-other-languages/
After looking at this a bit more, it makes me think that user testimonials of some kind would be great to include on these pages. I have some things that I'd add to the PHP section, but I probably shouldn't edit the content myself. Maybe a "Tips from former X developers" section at the bottom, or something.
-Mat
On Jun 19, 2006, at 1:43 PM, John Gabriele wrote:
On 6/19/06, Kyrre Nygard <kyrreny@broadpark.no> wrote:
Hello!
I might have missed past discussions, but where may I find comparisons
between Ruby and the rest of the major programming languages out there?If there are none, how about we make one?
Remember the key to good writing: SHOW DON'T TELL!
We'll, there's some content going up on the new ruby site that might
be similar to what you're looking for:
http://new.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ruby-from-other-languages/
Mat Schaffer wrote:
What if we turned the "10 things..." idea into a series? Have the
ruby community submit articles for their 2nd favorite programming
language. I like the idea. I might start drafting something like
that for PHP->Ruby converts like myself.
But what if Ruby *is* your second-favorite programming language?
<ducking>
Warning: I consider PLEAC to be highly Perl-centric and not well suited to language comparison. This is just my opinion.
John wanted a link to it on the new Ruby site, but I killed it being the mean editor I am. 
James Edward Gray II
On Jun 19, 2006, at 12:48 PM, John Gabriele wrote:
On 6/19/06, Mat Schaffer <schapht@gmail.com> wrote:
There's also a project (can't remember the name
offhand) which is attempting to catalog how to accomplish common
operations in a wide array of languages.
I will admit that I really miss programming in Forth. I also miss doing embedded control systems. Sigh.
-- Matt
It's not what I know that counts. It's what I can remember in time to use.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
But what if Ruby *is* your second-favorite programming language?
Matt Lawrence wrote:
But what if Ruby *is* your second-favorite programming language?
I will admit that I really miss programming in Forth. I also miss
doing embedded control systems. Sigh.
Well, if the vmgen-based Ruby virtual machine ever gets off the ground,
perhaps you can get back some of that old Forth joy. 
http://www.nongnu.org/carbone/README.html
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
-- Matt
It's not what I know that counts. It's what I can remember in time to
use.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Quite a bit of Koichi's design reminded me of Forth virtual machines. The computer industry has be stagnating with single stack CPUs thanks to C.
-- Matt
It's not what I know that counts. It's what I can remember in time to use.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Well, if the vmgen-based Ruby virtual machine ever gets off the ground,
perhaps you can get back some of that old Forth joy.
Or perhaps HLVM?:
Phil
On 6/19/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
Matt Lawrence wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>
>> But what if Ruby *is* your second-favorite programming language?
>
> I will admit that I really miss programming in Forth. I also miss
> doing embedded control systems. Sigh.
Well, if the vmgen-based Ruby virtual machine ever gets off the ground,
perhaps you can get back some of that old Forth joy.
Matt Lawrence wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Well, if the vmgen-based Ruby virtual machine ever gets off the ground,
perhaps you can get back some of that old Forth joy.Quite a bit of Koichi's design reminded me of Forth virtual machines.
The computer industry has be stagnating with single stack CPUs thanks
to C.
Ah, but the Forth folks are very religious about there being exactly two
stacks (not counting a floating point stack, which makes three).
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Matt Lawrence wrote:
Well, if the vmgen-based Ruby virtual machine ever gets off the ground,
perhaps you can get back some of that old Forth joy.Quite a bit of Koichi's design reminded me of Forth virtual machines. The computer industry has be stagnating with single stack CPUs thanks
to C.Ah, but the Forth folks are very religious about there being exactly two
stacks (not counting a floating point stack, which makes three).
"Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached..."
(sorry)
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
--
Alex