I apologize – I’m sure this must be a FAQ, but I can’t seem to locate a
list of the changes from 1.6 to 1.8. Is this instantiated only in
individual RCR’s, or is there a document which describes the changes. I’m
just getting into Ruby and would hate to learn old stuff when there’s newer
syntax waiting to be devoured. 
Such a list would be premature, as 1.8 has not been released.
There is a 1.8-preview1, but that is just that, a preview. There
is a Wiki page for the Pickaxe Book where people are notating
changes which are likely to result when 1.8 is released.
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:33:16 +0900, Bill Dueber wrote:
I apologize – I’m sure this must be a FAQ, but I can’t seem to locate a
list of the changes from 1.6 to 1.8. Is this instantiated only in
individual RCR’s, or is there a document which describes the changes. I’m
just getting into Ruby and would hate to learn old stuff when there’s newer
syntax waiting to be devoured.
The ‘shim’ module will give you a good idea, but is not exhaustive.
In particular, it won’t inform you about syntax changes.
Gavin
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On Friday, February 14, 2003, 2:33:16 PM, Bill wrote:
I apologize – I’m sure this must be a FAQ, but I can’t seem to locate a
list of the changes from 1.6 to 1.8. Is this instantiated only in
individual RCR’s, or is there a document which describes the changes. I’m
just getting into Ruby and would hate to learn old stuff when there’s newer
syntax waiting to be devoured.
I don’t want to sound ungrateful… or rude… or whatnot, especially as
Ruby is free… but documentation seems to be a big problem* with ruby at
the minute.
I have no idea what is changed in 1.8 I know it broke my app written in
1.6.6, which is cool (i expect that and expect to have to rewrite when a
new version comes out)… and the fact that there is no complete
documentation for 1.8 (or even for 1.6) is cool… but a change log or
something would be helpful. I can’t take advantage of cool new features if
(a) I don’t know what they are and (b) I don’t know what they even were in
the last version…
What can we do, and how can I help…
Take Care,
Mark
- Nothing in this message should be taken to imply that I am brighter,
better, stronger, smarter, better smelling or in any other way superior to
the people producing this wonderful product. Void where prohibited.
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At 23:05 15/02/2003 +0900, Gavin wrote:
The ‘shim’ module will give you a good idea, but is not exhaustive.
In particular, it won’t inform you about syntax changes.Gavin
I don't want to sound ungrateful... or rude... or whatnot, especially as
Ruby is free.. but documentation seems to be a big problem* with ruby at
the minute.
You want to say english documentation, no ?
What can we do, and how can I help...
Translate japanese documentation if it exist.
Guy Decoux
I don’t want to sound ungrateful… or rude… or whatnot, especially as
Ruby is free… but documentation seems to be a big problem* with ruby at
the minute.
True, though improving.
I have no idea what is changed in 1.8 I know it broke my app written in
1.6.6, which is cool (i expect that and expect to have to rewrite when a
new version comes out)… and the fact that there is no complete
documentation for 1.8 (or even for 1.6) is cool… but a change log or
something would be helpful. I can’t take advantage of cool new features if
(a) I don’t know what they are and (b) I don’t know what they even were in
the last version…What can we do, and how can I help…
Visit http://www.ruby-doc.org
“The ruby-doc.org Ruby documentation project is an effort by the Ruby community to provide complete and accurate documentation for
the Ruby programming language.”
There are links there for a documentation bundle download, as well as online versions of the pickaxe book (AKA Programming Ruby), a
URL interface to querying both the pickaxe and ri, a list of known online documentation, and a list of available books.
If you want to pitch in, there is always a need for people who write stuff down and post it someplace public. It can be hosted on
ruby-doc.org if you like (and that offer goes out to all in general; if you have something you would like to publish, but don’t have
a site for it, talk to me about putting it on ruby-doc.org).
There is also a mailing list for discussion of ruby documentation efforts (see www.ruby-doc.org for info and list archive URL).
Hosting the change logs for the various Ruby version might be a good thing in itself, so I may add that to the site. Might be nice
if there were an RSS feed for that sore of thing.
James Britt
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Take Care,
Mark
You could examine the change log in the distribution itself, but that
might contain Too Much Information.
Gavin
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On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 3:55:20 AM, Mark wrote:
[…] but a change log or something would be helpful.
Yes. I’m sure the docs exist in Japanese. I would volunteer to do that if
I knew more than the vocabulary in the book Shogun… (let alone how to
read those 10 words or so…)
I hear the community college here teaches Japanese. I’ll sign up for a
course or two, and get back to you in about ten years… (:
take care,
Mark
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At 02:06 18/02/2003 +0900, you wrote:
I don’t want to sound ungrateful… or rude… or whatnot, especially as
Ruby is free… but documentation seems to be a big problem* with ruby at
the minute.You want to say english documentation, no ?
What can we do, and how can I help…
Translate japanese documentation if it exist.
Guy Decoux
Hi,
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At Tue, 18 Feb 2003 02:09:36 +0900, Mark Firestone wrote:
Yes. I’m sure the docs exist in Japanese. I would volunteer to do
that if I knew more than the vocabulary in the book Shogun… (let
alone how to read those 10 words or so…)
There’re RWiki pages.
http://www.ruby-lang.org/ja/man-1.6/?cmd=view;name=Ruby�ѹ�����
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Nobu Nakada
Thanks for all your suggestions, guys. I will check them all out. I am
willing to put my time where my mouth (er text) is and chip in and help…
as soon as I get this here project done… (:
Thanks again,
mark
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At 01:47 19/02/2003 +0900, you wrote:
Hi,
At Tue, 18 Feb 2003 02:09:36 +0900, >Mark Firestone wrote:
Yes. I’m sure the docs exist in Japanese. I would volunteer to do
that if I knew more than the vocabulary in the book Shogun… (let
alone how to read those 10 words or so…)There’re RWiki pages.
http://www.ruby-lang.org/ja/man-1.6/?cmd=view;name=Ruby�ѹ�����
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Nobu Nakada