As you've probably guessed by the title, total newbie here.
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
So, what am I missing? What is the link between .rb and .html?
You could use the Merb-core in combination with the passenger mod for Apache. That mod allows you to run rails and merb applications just like php applications. Just upload and go. And indeed you could use Rails, but it's easier to start with a merb application.
As you can see passenger mod supports multiple simple frameworks. So maybe you could try one of those.
Regards,
Daniel
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-----Original Message-----
From: esmero@gmail.com [mailto:esmero@gmail.com]
Sent: donderdag 16 oktober 2008 11:19
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: How to go from a ruby script to a working website?
As you've probably guessed by the title, total newbie here.
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
So, what am I missing? What is the link between .rb and .html?
--
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
start with cgi.rb
learn about webrick
comprehend rack
all "explodes" from there
···
On Oct 16, 5:19 am, Ralph Wood <esm...@gmail.com> wrote:
As you've probably guessed by the title, total newbie here.
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
So, what am I missing? What is the link between .rb and .html?
Take a look at one of the frameworks that has been built on top of Ruby such as Merb or Rails
Ralph Wood wrote:
···
As you've probably guessed by the title, total newbie here.
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
So, what am I missing? What is the link between .rb and .html?
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they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
For a one-pager app, look at Sinatra. I've only given it a quick try,
but it looks a lot cleaner and simpler than Camping.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Ralph Wood <esmero@gmail.com> wrote:
As you've probably guessed by the title, total newbie here.
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
So, what am I missing? What is the link between .rb and .html?
I've looked into your suggestions with more depth, and the possibility
I'm liking the most is the Phusion's Passenger mod.
But first I think I'm gonna try liquid's mini-tutorial on how to use
just merb-core to get a one-page app working. It looks like the more
hands-on approach, and it's what I'm looking for at the moment.
I had read about Sinatra earlier, but it looks like the project is
offline. Vintage looks interesting, but it appears to be somewhat
abandoned.
Just something else that isn't quite clear to me: my app should be
written in an erb file, right? Or HAML or the like.
For extremely simple stuff -- like turning a basic command-line utility
into a Web application -- I use the hell out of eRuby. The Wikipedia
page for eRuby offers a little information about it, including some
"hello world" level examples and brief mentions of three different
implementations:
The way it's used, once you get it working, is surprisingly similar to
how PHP is used with mod_php on most Webservers. The difference is
primarily that it uses Ruby instead of PHP (obviously), in terms of how
one interacts with it. There are a few gotchas in making the transition
from PHP to eRuby, though, as a bunch of stuff works subtly differently
(such as default paths).
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 06:19:14PM +0900, Ralph Wood wrote:
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
--
Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ]
Bill McKibben: "The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown
increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to
yield."
Using merb-core for a one page app is not a silly idea. You can use it with
a very_flat (1 file) merb application.
to genearte the stubs to get you going for this use
merb-gen very_flat my_app
then run it with
merb -I <app_file>
HTH
~Daniel
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Hoesel, Daniël van < Daniel.vanHoesel@getronics.com> wrote:
You could use the Merb-core in combination with the passenger mod for
Apache. That mod allows you to run rails and merb applications just like php
applications. Just upload and go. And indeed you could use Rails, but it's
easier to start with a merb application.
As you can see passenger mod supports multiple simple frameworks. So maybe
you could try one of those.
Regards,
Daniel
-----Original Message-----
From: esmero@gmail.com [mailto:esmero@gmail.com]
Sent: donderdag 16 oktober 2008 11:19
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: How to go from a ruby script to a working website?
As you've probably guessed by the title, total newbie here.
My main interest is developing web stuff, and for that I started
learning programming through PHP. However, I discovered Ruby and
immediately fell in love with it.
I started following Chris Pine's Learn to Program and with the knowledge
I got so far, I started building a few very simple programs of my own.
The thing is that they're all limited to the Terminal (I have a mac),
but what I really want is to use them through a web interface (inputs,
forms, submit, etc) so I can also experiment with Javascript/AJAX.
However, I have no clue how to do that and can't seem to find
information on it anywhere. It seems the only way to access Ruby
programs through a webpage is with the aid of frameworks like Rails and
Merb, and they seem like too much trouble for what would be a simple
one-page app. I guess could use Camping or only the Merb-core, but I
would like to understand exactly what I'm doing, and just basically be
able do it all by myself.
So, what am I missing? What is the link between .rb and .html?
--
\
You can use erb or haml for your views. It depends on what you're
comfortable with. My personal preference is haml but each to his own.
Cheers
Daniel
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Ralph Wood <esmero@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.
I've looked into your suggestions with more depth, and the possibility
I'm liking the most is the Phusion's Passenger mod.
But first I think I'm gonna try liquid's mini-tutorial on how to use
just merb-core to get a one-page app working. It looks like the more
hands-on approach, and it's what I'm looking for at the moment.
I had read about Sinatra earlier, but it looks like the project is
offline. Vintage looks interesting, but it appears to be somewhat
abandoned.
Just something else that isn't quite clear to me: my app should be
written in an erb file, right? Or HAML or the like.
I've looked into your suggestions with more depth, and the possibility
I'm liking the most is the Phusion's Passenger mod.
But first I think I'm gonna try liquid's mini-tutorial on how to use
just merb-core to get a one-page app working. It looks like the more
hands-on approach, and it's what I'm looking for at the moment.
I think merb is a great choice.
I had read about Sinatra earlier, but it looks like the project is
offline. Vintage looks interesting, but it appears to be somewhat
abandoned.
I want to point out that just because there hasn't been a Vintage
release in awhile does not mean it has been abandoned. It's purpose
is relatively simple and probably does not require many updates.
Michael Guterl
···
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Ralph Wood <esmero@gmail.com> wrote:
With an answer like that, I'm not sure you actually read the OP.
···
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:57:06PM +0900, Jim McKerchar wrote:
Take a look at one of the frameworks that has been built on top of Ruby
such as Merb or Rails
--
Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ]
Mike Maples, as quoted by James Gleick: "My job is to get a fair share
of the software applications market, and to me that's 100 percent."