Just an FYI I will be moving all my email activity to my gmail address
tsawyer@gmail.com.
In so doing I'm thinking of using google groups for interacting with
the mailing list. For others who use it I'm wondering how the
experience has been, and if there are any hints, tricks and snafus to
watch out for.
Thanks,
T. (trans.)
Oops. That should be Google Groups.
Man, isn't it about time that email evolve to allow some editing
features?
T.
In article <1106063686.564016.258960@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
<tsawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Oops. That should be Google Groups.
Man, isn't it about time that email evolve to allow some editing
features?T.
Did you ever read that book "Goodle, Etcher, Buck"?
It's very deep.
Phil
I've chosen to use gmail for reading and posting to the list. A much
better interface than Google Groups.
All you have to do is create a filter and set a label for all mails
sent to "ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org" and you're done. The best web-based
interface to this mailing list.
Heck, I doubt if there's a better web-interface for _any_ mailing
list or newsgroup out there 
gavri
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:56:04 +0900, tsawyer@gmail.com <tsawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Just an FYI I will be moving all my email activity to my gmail address
tsawyer@gmail.com.In so doing I'm thinking of using google groups for interacting with
the mailing list. For others who use it I'm wondering how the
experience has been, and if there are any hints, tricks and snafus to
watch out for.
I am using this Google email addy specifically for the Ruby ML and
nothing else. For all of the emails that come through, I have set up
several different Labels depending on the topic. Sometimes the
Labels/Topics overlap and that is perfectly fine with GMail as you may
apply multiple Labels. The upshot to this is that, with the power of
GMail, I have a really sophisticated taxonomy that is easily
searchable and maintainable.
The only downside to this is sorting through all of the new emails on
the ML after being absent for several days.
Would I recommend it? Yes. It's the very best interface to the ML I
have tried.
Warm Regards-
C
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:56:04 +0900, tsawyer@gmail.com <tsawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Just an FYI I will be moving all my email activity to my gmail address
tsawyer@gmail.com.In so doing I'm thinking of using google groups for interacting with
the mailing list. For others who use it I'm wondering how the
experience has been, and if there are any hints, tricks and snafus to
watch out for.Thanks,
T. (trans.)
<tsawyer@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1106063686.564016.258960@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Oops. That should be Google Groups.
I guess it was your subconscience thinking "Poodle Groups" - or even worse...
robert
LOL! In fact I have, twice! Dougy Hof is soooo coooool 
Hmm...Why is this a problem? I set all mails that are filtered and
labelled to also be auto-archived. Doesn't that solve the "crap-load
of mails to sift through" problem? For this kind of problem, how is it
any worse than using a newsreader or any other kind of interface?
gavri
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:02:57 +0900, Craig Moran <craig.m.moran.ruby@gmail.com> wrote:
The only downside to this is sorting through all of the new emails on
the ML after being absent for several days.
It is possible that you misunderstood me. After I Label something, I
Archive it so that it no longer exists in my Inbox. If it is a
message I haven't read, it sits in my Inbox. This can be considerable
after a few days of not checking the mail. Since I enjoy much of the
traffic on this ML, I let the messages stay in my Inbox to be read
instead of Auto-archiving them. Maybe "downside" was the improper
word for me to use because I never intended it to mean that it was a
"problem" at all. If anything, it just shows that I need to be more
diligent in keeping up with the ML. Because of the very natural
taxonomy feature of GMail, I still maintain that GMail is much better
than any newsreader.
Warm Regards-
C
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:02:57 +0900, Craig Moran > <craig.m.moran.ruby@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only downside to this is sorting through all of the new emails on
> the ML after being absent for several days.
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:15:53 +0900, Gavri Fernandez <gavri.fernandez@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm...Why is this a problem? I set all mails that are filtered and
labelled to also be auto-archived. Doesn't that solve the "crap-load
of mails to sift through" problem? For this kind of problem, how is it
any worse than using a newsreader or any other kind of interface?gavri
It is possible that you misunderstood me. After I Label something, I
Archive it so that it no longer exists in my Inbox. If it is a
message I haven't read, it sits in my Inbox. This can be considerable
The filter I've set labels and archives automatically. So at no point
of time are there any ruby-talk mails in my Inbox.
after a few days of not checking the mail. Since I enjoy much of the
traffic on this ML, I let the messages stay in my Inbox to be read
instead of Auto-archiving them. Maybe "downside" was the improper
It really doesn't make a difference if you auto-archive them. Try it
and see. You can always click on the label links to get to see the
labelled mails although they have been archived. And the interface
provides visualisation of which conversations have been read and which
haven't among these archived mails.
word for me to use because I never intended it to mean that it was a
"problem" at all. If anything, it just shows that I need to be more
diligent in keeping up with the ML. Because of the very natural
taxonomy feature of GMail, I still maintain that GMail is much better
than any newsreader.
I guess you have not set the ruby-talk filter to autoarchive. Try it.
You lose nothing but the clutter in your Inbox.
Regards,
Gavri
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:48:31 +0900, Craig Moran <craig.m.moran.ruby@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is possible that you misunderstood me. After I Label something, I
> Archive it so that it no longer exists in my Inbox. If it is a
> message I haven't read, it sits in my Inbox. This can be considerableThe filter I've set labels and archives automatically. So at no point
of time are there any ruby-talk mails in my Inbox.
I'm sure that I'm being misunderstood now. From my first message on
this topic, I quote:
"I am using this Google email addy specifically for the Ruby ML and
nothing else."
You are advising me from the perspective of a GMail user that uses
their account for several different situations, this ML being only one
of them. Others take note, because this advice is sound for anyone
using GMail for things in addition to this ML.
> after a few days of not checking the mail. Since I enjoy much of the
> traffic on this ML, I let the messages stay in my Inbox to be read
> instead of Auto-archiving them. Maybe "downside" was the improperIt really doesn't make a difference if you auto-archive them. Try it
and see. You can always click on the label links to get to see the
labelled mails although they have been archived. And the interface
provides visualisation of which conversations have been read and which
haven't among these archived mails.
See my message quoted above. You provide sound advice for others in
your situation.
Advice for anyone using GMail purely for this ML like myself (not
directed at Gavri ;^) ): auto-archiving will add one more step in
that you will have to click on the archived folder to get to your
messages as opposed to them just being there in your Inbox when you
login.
> word for me to use because I never intended it to mean that it was a
> "problem" at all. If anything, it just shows that I need to be more
> diligent in keeping up with the ML. Because of the very natural
> taxonomy feature of GMail, I still maintain that GMail is much better
> than any newsreader.I guess you have not set the ruby-talk filter to autoarchive. Try it.
You lose nothing but the clutter in your Inbox.
To those using their GMail for more than this ML, this is once again
sound advice.
Regards,
Gavri
Another upside to using GMail as I am is the fact that I am not
intermixing any of my other interests. My GMail account is purely for
Ruby and nothing else. If I happen to have several other interests
involving MLs (which I don't), I have made the choice to keep them
separate. By keeping them separate, I also decrease the risk to
ruby-talk's ML that my email will be harvested from one of my other
interests. Thus, I avoid compromising the integrity of the ruby-talk
ML.
At the risk of repeating myself, my favorite benefit is having one
central, personally moderated repository of everything I think is
great about Ruby.
Peace-
C
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:00:48 +0900, Gavri Fernandez <gavri.fernandez@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:48:31 +0900, Craig Moran > <craig.m.moran.ruby@gmail.com> wrote:
I've done the same. Not sure what I'm going to do about other mail
lists- maybe another gmail account. Since 80% of my email time is
spent on ruby mailing lists, it makes sense to keep my current gmail
account dedicated.
I quite like having my inbox for reading, and my labels for archiving.
If I got immediately to a folder/label, then I don't have a simple
step to make things disappear. I suppose I could label "ruby-talk" and
"ruby-talk-inbox" and remove the "ruby-talk-inbox" label when done
reading a mesage. Hmm. Yeah, that would do it, I think. And a
single-click, similar to "archive".
The downside of such good management is that I try to catch up after
being away for a few days or weeks, as opposed to giving up more
easily with a less effective interface.
I actually prefer gmail over any email interface, period. I'd
recommend to anyone reading ruby-talk through it, at least for a week,
to learn the interface and appreciate the art and design in the
interface. Even if you go back to mutt or Thunderbird, it would be a
worthwhile experience.
Nick
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:54:26 +0900, Craig Moran <craig.m.moran.ruby@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:00:48 +0900, Gavri Fernandez > <gavri.fernandez@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:48:31 +0900, Craig Moran > > <craig.m.moran.ruby@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It is possible that you misunderstood me. After I Label something, I
> > Archive it so that it no longer exists in my Inbox. If it is a
> > message I haven't read, it sits in my Inbox. This can be considerable
>
> The filter I've set labels and archives automatically. So at no point
> of time are there any ruby-talk mails in my Inbox.I'm sure that I'm being misunderstood now. From my first message on
this topic, I quote:"I am using this Google email addy specifically for the Ruby ML and
nothing else."You are advising me from the perspective of a GMail user that uses
their account for several different situations, this ML being only one
of them. Others take note, because this advice is sound for anyone
using GMail for things in addition to this ML.> > after a few days of not checking the mail. Since I enjoy much of the
> > traffic on this ML, I let the messages stay in my Inbox to be read
> > instead of Auto-archiving them. Maybe "downside" was the improper
>
> It really doesn't make a difference if you auto-archive them. Try it
> and see. You can always click on the label links to get to see the
> labelled mails although they have been archived. And the interface
> provides visualisation of which conversations have been read and which
> haven't among these archived mails.See my message quoted above. You provide sound advice for others in
your situation.Advice for anyone using GMail purely for this ML like myself (not
directed at Gavri ;^) ): auto-archiving will add one more step in
that you will have to click on the archived folder to get to your
messages as opposed to them just being there in your Inbox when you
login.> > word for me to use because I never intended it to mean that it was a
> > "problem" at all. If anything, it just shows that I need to be more
> > diligent in keeping up with the ML. Because of the very natural
> > taxonomy feature of GMail, I still maintain that GMail is much better
> > than any newsreader.
>
> I guess you have not set the ruby-talk filter to autoarchive. Try it.
> You lose nothing but the clutter in your Inbox.To those using their GMail for more than this ML, this is once again
sound advice.> Regards,
> GavriAnother upside to using GMail as I am is the fact that I am not
intermixing any of my other interests. My GMail account is purely for
Ruby and nothing else. If I happen to have several other interests
involving MLs (which I don't), I have made the choice to keep them
separate. By keeping them separate, I also decrease the risk to
ruby-talk's ML that my email will be harvested from one of my other
interests. Thus, I avoid compromising the integrity of the ruby-talk
ML.At the risk of repeating myself, my favorite benefit is having one
central, personally moderated repository of everything I think is
great about Ruby.Peace-
C
--
Nicholas Van Weerdenburg
Looks like gmail is the recommend interface. I'm tyring to live with
the Groups interface for now. We'll see. There are nice things about
it, but I miss KMail too.
Thanks all.
T.
Anyone know who Google Droups determine what messages are new?
Okay. I can officially say that I really miss my KMail autospell
checker 
Let me try again...
Anyone know hoo Google Groups determines what messages are _new_?
Thanks,
T.
Great Googles! I can't even type anymore!
s/hoo/how/
Ugh.
Testing...
"
class X
def test
puts
end
end
"
" class X
" def test
" puts
" end
" end
"
Just trying some random things. Suppose I should ask but Google don't
reply to support emails very quickly
Sorry for the noise.
T.