http://rubyforge.org/projects/nitro/
(Any links on nitro-the-language? All I found was the pdf of someone's
thesis, which timed out when I tried to load it)
martin
Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought he was talking about the nitro programming language?
Alexander Kellett wrote:
i take this back i read some of the various
postings from mr Lazaridis that google has
kindly provided me withinsult counts
ilias: uncountable, probably asymptotic over time
world: < 100
This information is false.
You will find many direct 'insults' targeting me.
You will find many direct 'insults' targeting my relatives.
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You will not find _any_ direct insult targeting conversation partners.
ilias you're making no friends here
stop being rude you'll just go through
yet another communitythe fact is, that you've made some very good
points on very many forums. but interleaving
them with personal insults
This is a false accusation
I do not insult people.
[possibly you've just read some comments of some weak liars, which you've not evaluated further.]
and then accusing
kind informative posters of being off topic
when they merely try to help...
Information, which is not requested, can quickly become ungentle.
well. the term is "hate mongering"
Alex
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Luke Graham wrote:
Im investigating nitro myself now, so trolls can be a catalyst for
good as much as for evil. They just cause people to show their
true selves. Hes stimulated lots of useful conversation
here so far, which has got to be the ultimate proof that ruby
programmers have only good in their hearts.
Possibly it's the ultimate proof tha ruby programmers have to train their ability to distiguish a "troll" from a "stimulator".
Possibly.
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Austin Ziegler wrote:
Supported (FastCGI, Postgresql, Oracle)
This answer referes to RDBMS. I have corrected the document to
contain both (RDBMS, OODBMS).http://lazaridis.com/case/stack/index.html#deployment
I assume at this point that nitro does not support OODBMS
bindings.Quite apart from Austin's rant on the fundamental brokenness of
the OODBMS concept, might there not be an impedance mismatch
between the DBMS's notion of an object and the language's?
Singleton methods are the simplest example I can think of in the
Ruby case, but I'm sure there are others.Generally speaking, yes. The only OODBMS systems that will work well
with a particular language and said language's object model are
those written in that language. Generally, one won't be able to
effectivly use a Java OODBMS from a C++ program -- you need to have
the C++ implementation of the OODBMS.
correction: "you need to hav the C++ binding to the OODBMS".
The Prevalence model (Madaleine, etc.) is an OODBMS for Ruby.
There's also a few others, e.g., GOOD.
Note that this is again off-topic.
The (sub-)topic here is: does Nitro (which is _not_ Ruby) support large-scale OODBMS bindings?
The answer so far is: no.
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 07:14:43 +0900, Martin DeMello > <martindemello@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com > wrote:
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example OODBMS for Large Scale Distributed Systems, which has bindings for C++, Smalltalk, Java:
http://www.objectivity.com/Products/Products.shtml
-austin
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No, really: surely you can look things up yourself, hold up your side
of the conversation? If not, it isn't much of a conversation.
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 01:59:42 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
Robert McGovern wrote:
[...]
> Surely you are capable of looking this up yourself?This is a simple conversation, which I make in public instead within
closed email, thus others can benefit from it.
http://di002.edv.uniovi.es/reflection/lab/nitro.html
http://di002.edv.uniovi.es/reflection/lab/prototypes.html
The pdfs are in Spanish.
I do see George Moschovitis's name on a post in the ruby-forge nitro's
mailing list, so you got the correct nitro 
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:30:09 +0900, Martin DeMello <martindemello@yahoo.com> wrote:
Luke Graham <spoooq@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought he was talking about the nitro programming language?http://rubyforge.org/projects/nitro/
(Any links on nitro-the-language? All I found was the pdf of someone's
thesis, which timed out when I tried to load it)martin
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spooq
Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> writes:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:30:49 +0900, Alexander Kellett > <ruby-lists@lypanov.net> wrote:
i take this back i read some of the various
postings from mr Lazaridis that google has
kindly provided me withinsult counts
ilias: uncountable, probably asymptotic over time
world: < 100ilias you're making no friends here
stop being rude you'll just go through
yet another communitythe fact is, that you've made some very good
points on very many forums. but interleaving
them with personal insults and then accusing
kind informative posters of being off topic
when they merely try to help...well. the term is "hate mongering"
Sounds about right. The list of boards, user groups, news groups and
websites that this guy has been shunned from is astonishing.
If you have some free time to waste, I recommend everyone to read:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/e62bf980a87ffbe2
Total fun.
--
Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> http://chneukirchen.org
You will find many direct 'insults' targeting me.
i don't have the time to show the multiple times that you
have insulted members of this list alone. to find all of
the insults that you have directly or indirectly bestowed
on your many faithful readers would take a life time
if you insulted noone, then why would such acts be taken upon your actions:
http://www.groupsrv.com/computers/about108763.html
TheServerSide | Your Java Community discussing server side development
You will find many direct 'insults' targeting my relatives.
that would be Nikolaos i guess?
is graz a nice city?
you've been doing this for a long time haven't you mr lazaridis
you're not getting better as time goes you know? i could find
messages back in 2003 but i'm sure it goes a long time back
i guess you're out of work now?
trying to find meaning to your life?
good luck
maybe a shrink could help?
Alex
On Feb 18, 2005, at 5:04 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
Bill Guindon wrote:
[...]
Sounds about right. The list of boards, user groups, news groups and
websites that this guy has been shunned from is astonishing.On the brighter side... He did pick Ruby as his next "target", and
there's a part of me that thinks the Ruby community should feel
honoredIt's sort of like thinking you're in this small hidden outpost that
nobody's ever heard of, then rumor spreads that Ghengis Kahn plans to
invade (almost Godwin'd myself there). Certainly it's a sign that
"Ruby has arrived!"
A very intresting viewpoint.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:30:49 +0900, Alexander Kellett > <ruby-lists@lypanov.net> wrote:
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Please look at this page, which will shortly be filled more and more:
http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/
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ahh, "weak liar" is a compliment. I'll make a note of that.
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:04:52 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
I do not insult people.
[possibly you've just read some comments of some weak liars, which
you've not evaluated further.]
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Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
Hi,
Am Samstag, 19. Feb 2005, 01:04:52 +0900 schrieb Ilias Lazaridis:
>[...]. but interleaving
>them with personal insultsThis is a false accusation
I do not insult people.
And: you're well informed.
Bertram
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Bertram Scharpf
Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany
http://www.bertram-scharpf.de
The missing question is "Are large scale OODBMS bindings fundamentally
useful to Nitro and its users?".
martin
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
The (sub-)topic here is: does Nitro (which is _not_ Ruby) support
large-scale OODBMS bindings?The answer so far is: no.
reread without your "correction"
Alex
On Feb 20, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
correction: "you need to hav the C++ binding to the OODBMS".
Luke Graham wrote:
http://di002.edv.uniovi.es/reflection/lab/nitro.html
http://di002.edv.uniovi.es/reflection/lab/prototypes.html
[...]
Thank you for this very intresting information.
will take a closer look shortly.
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Christian Neukirchen wrote:
Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
Sounds about right. The list of boards, user groups, news groups and
websites that this guy has been shunned from is astonishing.If you have some free time to waste, I recommend everyone to read:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/e62bf980a87ffbe2
Total fun.
Good old times.
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My favorite message within this thread was:
Peter Lewerin Sep 26 2002, 3:27 am
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/510c586286b28ea1
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The essence of the whole thread (and the SCHEME evaluations) was this one:
"
estimation: disrespect.
scheme => shame !
provisional rejected.
"
source:
LISP - R5RS - John McCarthy
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/01aeb2489438816f
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More links shortly within:
http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/
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Alexander Kellett wrote:
You will find many direct 'insults' targeting me.
i don't have the time to show the multiple times that you
have insulted members of this list alone.
Of course you don't have the time.
You can invest as much time as you want.
You will not find any direct insults expressed by me, targeting a poster on this or another group.
to find all of
the insults that you have directly or indirectly bestowed
on your many faithful readers would take a life time
There is a difference between "inderect insults" and "faulty interpretations" [of wordings, e.g. by weak personalities].
if you insulted noone, then why would such acts be taken upon your actions:
"If you were not a witch, then why the people would fire you?"
Simply read this thread to understand.
TheServerSide | Your Java Community discussing server side development? thread_id=25972#122550
This illegal action of "TheServerSide.com" was not caused by my person.
You should do more careful research.
You will find many direct 'insults' targeting my relatives.
that would be Nikolaos i guess?
Yes, as an example:
[EVALUATION] - E07 - JetBrains, CEO, Team
But I like to ask you to keep my Father out of the discussions.
On Feb 18, 2005, at 5:04 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
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[OT] - A Shame For The Whole Clipper Community !
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.clipper/browse_frm/thread/c9021528e8b73177
is graz a nice city?
I don't know.
I'm not the only "Ilias Lazaridis" on this planet.
You should do a more carefull research.
Possibly simply on my website:
http://lazaridis.com/resumes/lazaridis.html
you've been doing this for a long time haven't you mr lazaridis
you're not getting better as time goes you know? i could find
messages back in 2003 but i'm sure it goes a long time back
Don't waste your time.
I'll provide shortly the summaries:
http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/
i guess you're out of work now?
No, I've still hope with Ruby (and a little bit with Python).
trying to find meaning to your life?
good luckmaybe a shrink could help?
[shrink: slang = psychologist]
At least you don not play the "CyberDoctor":
LISP - The Scary Readtable - () => - [#V0.3]
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/dc78c32a7f984a5f
Alex
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Bill Guindon wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 01:04:52 +0900, Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
I do not insult people.
[possibly you've just read some comments of some weak liars, which
you've not evaluated further.]ahh, "weak liar" is a compliment. I'll make a note of that.
If someone lies, then he's a liar.
"Weak Liars" spread lies which can be uncovered by a simple research.
"Strong Liars" were a more seldom species. Uncovering their lies is very difficult, due to their very precise ability to twist facts and to create doubts..
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In essence, both type of liars are weak [personalities].
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Christian Neukirchen wrote:
If you have some free time to waste, I recommend everyone to read:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/e62bf980a87ffbe2
Total fun.
I've never (really) used Google Groups before. Does this provide some kind of threaded access to the messages in the group? The above link brings up a page that has no obvious navigational features on it. I was curious about the "rest" of the thread (if there _is_ any more). Not so much about the thread itself but just how Google groups works. Just by looking at that one page i couldn't really tell what facilities Google Groups offers. I assume it's basically like a news group but from that page... the total lack of navigational features really made me wonder...
Anyway, just curious. If i really wanted to know i'd go do some research on Google Groups. But if anyone wishes to be so kind as just transmit the basic info that i'm lacking... tx
craig
Martin DeMello wrote:
Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@lazaridis.com> wrote:
The (sub-)topic here is: does Nitro (which is _not_ Ruby) support large-scale OODBMS bindings?
The answer so far is: no.
The missing question is "Are large scale OODBMS bindings fundamentally
useful to Nitro and its users?".
This question is not relevant in my evaluation context.
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Please have some respect against my efforts and against the readers.
I will respect yours, too.
If you open a new thread to discuss this matter from your context, I'll not intervene with off-context off-topic comments.
This thread is huge enouth.
martin
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damn. this post is hilarious!
if i had mod points i'd +100000 funny it 
On Feb 18, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
My favorite message within this thread was:
Peter Lewerin Sep 26 2002, 3:27 am
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/510c586286b28ea1