This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
Hi Xah (Sigma) Lee,
What's the purpose for cross posting this to several newsgroups? It is
interesting research, I suppose, if you're into that sort of thing
(numbers for the sake of numbers); but what does it have to do with us?
Regards,
Jordan
hi xah-
i'm glad you're up to something constructive. this is actually pretty
interesting.
thanks.
-a
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.Xah
xah@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/
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In article <1159326300.765320.131260@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
xah@xahlee.org says...
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
While this "survey" is clearly off-topic and nonsensical, the site is at
least entertaining in one respect. Anybody who can accuse others of
intolerance, then describe a city as "sordid...by the standards of
RIGHTEOUS MEN" [emphasis added], and THEN include pages full of pictures
of porn stars certainly has a personality anyway!
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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.Xah
xah@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/
These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he's not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.
xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual
Ah, it's been a while since I had a chance to plonk you.
Brian
xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript
xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
What a pile of crud.
keep whacking the mole buddy!
regards
Andy Little
Or one might deduce that the higher the curve, the more likely the
languge really sucks, and more people need lots of help and discussion
of really basic things.
For example, a good 25% of the "C" related discussions seem to be about
forgetting to allocate memoiry for a char * variable. Another 20%
regarding forgetting to read the ending "\n" with scanf().
Another 25% regarding seg faults due to the many ways of getting these
in C if you don't know exactly what you're doing.
The graphs remind me of the Staples TV commercial that shows in the
U.S. To save money the office drone has a cat sitting there
paw-painting his presentation pie charts. Oy...
xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.Xah
xah@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/
On 26 Sep 2006 20:05:00 -0700, I waved a wand and this message
magically appears in front of xah@xahlee.org:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
Folks, just kf him and have done with it.
Yeah ... except it makes no attempt to cover both (Common) Lisp and Scheme, and it doesn't have Forth. 
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ara.t.howard@noaa.gov wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.Xah
xah@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/hi xah-
i'm glad you're up to something constructive. this is actually pretty
interesting.thanks.
-a
Chung Leong wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html
Xah
xah@xahlee.org
∑ http://xahlee.org/These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he's not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.
Yup ... it's unscientific but fun. On the other hand, a pretty good indicator is to go to a *non-technical* bookstore and measure shelf-inches of books in the programming language section. Up until this year, that metric showed Ruby as almost non-existent.
This metric does fail for Javascript, though. Shelf inches for Javascript are usually much lower than the usage of Javascript, mostly because there aren't many books about Javascript.
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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
MonkeeSage wrote:
What's the purpose for cross posting this to several newsgroups?
He's a troll.
Brian
These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he's not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.
The numbers are also affected by accessibility to the newsgroups, you know, the eternal September effect...
Ben
jmcgill wrote:
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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
> This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
> indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
> comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
> popularity trends.This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript
Hasn't it annoyed enough groups already?
jmcgill said the following on 9/27/2006 1:31 PM:
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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript
Yeah, everybody knows that Java is a programming language and Javascript isn't, right?
--
Randy
Chance Favors The Prepared Mind
comp.lang.javascript FAQ - comp.lang.javascript FAQ & newsgroup weekly
Javascript Best Practices - http://www.JavascriptToolbox.com/bestpractices/
Hard to say.. for example php-general is just as high traffic as ruby-talk.
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On 9/29/06, Ancient_Hacker <grg2@comcast.net> wrote:
Or one might deduce that the higher the curve, the more likely the
languge really sucks, and more people need lots of help and discussion
of really basic things.
--
Greg Donald
http://destiney.com/
Ancient_Hacker wrote:
Or one might deduce that the higher the curve, the more likely the
languge really sucks, and more people need lots of help and discussion
of really basic things.
Or one might deduce that these ad-hoc stillborn carcasses of attempts at
statistical research are completely worthless especially if you have to
run around your own head in tight little circles to draw conclusions of
dubious relevance from them.
Last time I checked, "deduction" wasn't defined as "random guess that
none of the input really proves since it's unrelated"
David Vallner
These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
> postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
> information about it on the internet.
This would be true in a rational world.
A lot of people post on the ml without thinking asking fro arguments
that can be easly found by googling.
See:
- http://www.google.com/trends?q=ruby
- http://www.google.com/trends?q=perl&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
That could integrate scientifically those stats.
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