Almost every web site uses black on white because it gives the *most*
contrast... if you have a problem, or know anyone with such a
problem, suggest to them to make their monitor less bright.
That does not solve the problem. The problem is that modern monitors do
not have phosphors that match their refresh rate. Given the phosphors
that are used these days I would need a monitor with a refresh rate of
about 400 Hz to find black on white acceptable. No chance to compensate
using lower brightness. I wished this *were* a hypothetical problem
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
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clearly shows that the EU not democratic. We urgently need brothers in
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With some interesting contradictions. Verdana 10 is one of the
slowest to read, with sub optimal legibility, but the most prefered.
Then again, most of us type on a Qwerty keyboard, guess it all evens
out in the end
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:37:54 +0900, vruz <horacio.lopez@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was convinced that the conventional wisdom was that sans-serif body
> > text fonts are more readable at the low DPI you get out of most
> > monitors, though actually now that I spent a whole 60 seconds Googling I
> > wasn't able to come up with anything substantive either way.
>
> Sans-serif is the better choice for screen fonts:
> http://psychology.wichita.edu/optimalweb/text.htm
>
Mostly, though, I'm just looking for an excuse to not use any more Arial or Verdana ... At some point this past year I realized I was just getting really tired of looking at those fonts.
Heh, I also got tired of Arial and Verdana. I have switched to Tahoma on Windows, and to Bitstream Vera in Linux which there has the best subpixel hinting I have ever seen.
I think the link I posted is quite old, at least I have known this page for several years now. but it looks like a very good scientific study, and there is much more: http://psychology.wichita.edu/optimalweb/default.htm
How do you handle browsing the web then? I don't quite understand your
problem, especially considering I am writing this with black on white
in gmail. Can you not read Programming Ruby: The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide ? How about Google, is
that off limits too? If not, what is your workaround?
Douglas
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:55:53 +0900, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt <jupp@gmx.de> wrote:
Douglas Livingstone wrote:
> Almost every web site uses black on white because it gives the *most*
> contrast... if you have a problem, or know anyone with such a
> problem, suggest to them to make their monitor less bright.
That does not solve the problem. The problem is that modern monitors do
not have phosphors that match their refresh rate. Given the phosphors
that are used these days I would need a monitor with a refresh rate of
about 400 Hz to find black on white acceptable. No chance to compensate
using lower brightness. I wished this *were* a hypothetical problem
That does not solve the problem. The problem is that modern monitors do
not have phosphors that match their refresh rate. Given the phosphors
that are used these days I would need a monitor with a refresh rate of
about 400 Hz to find black on white acceptable. No chance to compensate
using lower brightness. I wished this *were* a hypothetical problem
Perhaps you should get a graphic card with DVI and a decent LCD monitor, if this is such a big problem. I also could not stand anything below 100Hz. The problem is that most monitors have a blurry display if using 100Hz or above, so LCDs are the way to go. Your eyes will thank you
Almost every web site uses black on white because it gives the *most*
contrast... if you have a problem, or know anyone with such a
problem, suggest to them to make their monitor less bright.
That does not solve the problem. The problem is that modern monitors
do not have phosphors that match their refresh rate. Given the
phosphors that are used these days I would need a monitor with a
refresh rate of about 400 Hz to find black on white acceptable. No
chance to compensate using lower brightness. I wished this *were* a
hypothetical problem
I agree 100%. I also alter the background from white to offwhite, light grey or some pastel as I simply cannot read black on white. The comparision to books is not quite the same thing as most paper is not even close to the white of a CRT monitor.
How do you handle browsing the web then? I don't quite understand your
problem, especially considering I am writing this with black on white
in gmail. Can you not read Programming Ruby: The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide ? How about Google, is
that off limits too? If not, what is your workaround?
Sometimes I wish I was unable to read certain posts too.
I use browsers that either allow me to override the color scheme or per default use gray on black (like links in text mode).
I don't quite understand your problem, especially considering I am
writing this with black on white in gmail.
If possible I am using a terminal emulation with green (lime) on black (as it was used by ancient monitors :-). In Thunderbird I use black on gray - and start cursing when someone sends me an HTML-Mail with hard-wired black on white.
The problem is not that I cannot read the text if it is black on white but it is definitely stress for my eyes. I only have this problem with monitors. Books are something different but I must admit that I prefer recycling paper because it is somewhat gray (unless it smells).
I don't quite understand your problem, especially considering I am
writing this with black on white in gmail.
If possible I am using a terminal emulation with green (lime) on black (as it was used by ancient monitors :-). In Thunderbird I use black on gray - and start cursing when someone sends me an HTML-Mail with hard-wired black on white.
Ideally, mail clients would give you the ability to override HTML emails with your own custom CSS -- maybe this is a feature request somewhere in the Thunderbird Bugzilla repository? Anyway, I generally expect CSS support of any level to be shoddy in mail clients ....
The problem is not that I cannot read the text if it is black on white but it is definitely stress for my eyes. I only have this problem with monitors. Books are something different but I must admit that I prefer recycling paper because it is somewhat gray (unless it smells).
Well, like you said, refresh rate is part of it. Also, don't underestimate the importance of DPI, or the fact that a CRT monitor is basically a gun shooting light at your eyes, as opposed to the passive diffusion you get out of reading text on paper. BTW, have you tried those anti-glare screens?
Francis Hwang
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On Mar 20, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt wrote:
