We're offering the paper book, a fully hyperlinked PDF version, and a combo pack that contains the two. Despite the fact that the new book is more than 250 pages bigger than the old, we've managed to keep the price about the same. We've also found some good shipping options for folks buying the book outside the US.
The book will ship from our store in the first week in October. Bookstores and places such as Amazon will have it some time after that (it takes some time to percolate through the channels). We'll ship books in the order we receive orders, so pre-order now and be one of the first to have a shiny new PickAxe!
I'm really happy to see that there will be a PDF version of the book
available. I've been looking to replace more and more of my programming
books with digital copies, and this will be a wonderful addition to the
set. My girlfriend will particularly thank you for making room on the
shelf for her books
We're offering the paper book, a fully hyperlinked PDF version, and a
combo pack that contains the two. Despite the fact that the new book
is
more than 250 pages bigger than the old, we've managed to keep the
price about the same. We've also found some good shipping options for
folks buying the book outside the US.
The book will ship from our store in the first week in October.
Bookstores and places such as Amazon will have it some time after
that
(it takes some time to percolate through the channels). We'll ship
books in the order we receive orders, so pre-order now and be one of
the first to have a shiny new PickAxe!
We're offering the paper book, a fully hyperlinked PDF version, and a combo pack that contains the two. Despite the fact that the new book is more than 250 pages bigger than the old, we've managed to keep the price about the same. We've also found some good shipping options for folks buying the book outside the US.
The book will ship from our store in the first week in October. Bookstores and places such as Amazon will have it some time after that (it takes some time to percolate through the channels). We'll ship books in the order we receive orders, so pre-order now and be one of the first to have a shiny new PickAxe!
We're offering the paper book, a fully hyperlinked PDF version, and a
combo pack that contains the two. Despite the fact that the new book is
more than 250 pages bigger than the old, we've managed to keep the
price about the same. We've also found some good shipping options for
folks buying the book outside the US.
The book will ship from our store in the first week in October.
Bookstores and places such as Amazon will have it some time after that
(it takes some time to percolate through the channels). We'll ship
books in the order we receive orders, so pre-order now and be one of
the first to have a shiny new PickAxe!
Just ordered the combo-pak.
Question for clarification: Some of the messaging seems to indicate that
the pdf can be downloaded within minutes of placing an order and other
messaging (I think it was in the confirming email) seemed to imply that
pdfs would be ready for download on Oct 3rd. (?)
We're offering the paper book, a fully hyperlinked PDF version, and a
combo pack that contains the two. Despite the fact that the new book is
more than 250 pages bigger than the old, we've managed to keep the
price about the same. We've also found some good shipping options for
folks buying the book outside the US.
The book will ship from our store in the first week in October.
Bookstores and places such as Amazon will have it some time after that
(it takes some time to percolate through the channels). We'll ship
books in the order we receive orders, so pre-order now and be one of
the first to have a shiny new PickAxe!
But what I dislike in your shop is that my orders I typed in aren't
acknowledged. I would like to get a summary of my orders in front before I
confirm them. So that I can still correct small mistakes.
Additionally the form forced my to give in a State/Province, but there is
actually no such thing in Germany, at least you don't put it normally on
your mail. Maybe an adopting form for each country would be nice
One more question, the double package or only the pdf, is it exclusively for
your shop or will for instance Amazon or any other online book shop also
have this offer?
Dietmar
Dave Thomas wrote:
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Folks:
it looks as if my original announcement got lost somewhere, so here it
is again:
I'm pleased to announce that we are now taking pre-orders for the
second edition of Programming Ruby (the PickAxe).
We're offering the paper book, a fully hyperlinked PDF version, and a
combo pack that contains the two. Despite the fact that the new book is
more than 250 pages bigger than the old, we've managed to keep the
price about the same. We've also found some good shipping options for
folks buying the book outside the US.
The book will ship from our store in the first week in October.
Bookstores and places such as Amazon will have it some time after that
(it takes some time to percolate through the channels). We'll ship
books in the order we receive orders, so pre-order now and be one of
the first to have a shiny new PickAxe!
I would have liked to order an extra license for the PDF (I ordered
the combo), but wasn't given the oppurtunity on the order form.
If you'd hit the 'continue shopping' button it would have taken you back to order additional stuff
How (il)legal is it to install the PDF on a colleague's machine ?
About the same as photocopying the paper book and giving your colleague the copy
As a matter of policy we don't enable any of the copy protection features of our PDFs: they are fully open. In return, we trust our readers to do the right thing...
It was. There has been extensive discussion about this in the past,
including the possibility that when Pickaxe III comes out (probably
for Ruby 2.0), Pickaxe II will be made available for free. But the
reality is that this costs quite a bit of time and effort by Dave, and
he deserves to make money from the publication of the book.
(Speaking of which, I'm going to be ordering one book and one book+pdf
-- plus the book I get as an early registrant at Ruwiki
This cumbersome cart software we're having to use doesn't let us customize the message on a per-product basis. The PDF will be available at the same time that the book ships.
Sorry for any confusion.
Dave
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On Sep 14, 2004, at 20:39, Phil Tomson wrote:
Question for clarification: Some of the messaging seems to indicate that
the pdf can be downloaded within minutes of placing an order and other
messaging (I think it was in the confirming email) seemed to imply that
pdfs would be ready for download on Oct 3rd. (?)
But what I dislike in your shop is that my orders I typed in aren't
acknowledged. I would like to get a summary of my orders in front before I
confirm them. So that I can still correct small mistakes.
Additionally the form forced my to give in a State/Province, but there is
actually no such thing in Germany, at least you don't put it normally on
your mail. Maybe an adopting form for each country would be nice
We've been battling this software ever since we went online with it: to be honest if we'd known then what we know now we'd just have written our own. However, with Visa and Mastercard getting every more paranoid, we felt it was better to go with a hosted solution at a big provider such as Verio rather than do it ourselves. In terms of security, that's been a good decision. In terms of functionality, it could be better, I agree.
One more question, the double package or only the pdf, is it exclusively for
your shop or will for instance Amazon or any other online book shop also
have this offer?
UK-based rubyists (or even European ones) might like to know that
amazon.co.uk has the PickaxeII listed with 30% off RRP, i.e. £22.36
The book is announced for end of October.
Mmmm, spotted that yesterday and I am a bit torn. Part of me wants to
support them by direct ordering the book / pdf combo and the
cheapskate part wants to get the book from Amazon UK and just buy the
PDF from the PragProg. Its why I asked in another thread if the book
would be signed (i.e. a value added version, which is an easier sell
to the wife than I want to support the authors).
Also from my limited exposure to writing[1], where you buy the
hardcopy wouldn't normally make any difference to the author. It does
for PragProg as they are self publishing and will make more money from
direct sales without the middle men.
Rob
[1] At least that is the impression I got from the royality statements
from Manning for Eclipse In Action. The royalties are based on the
published price of the book and the number of copies sold. There was
no difference between books bought directly from Manning or those
heavily discounted on say Amazon. Though there was a slightly
different percentage for ebook versions over print versions.
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:01:54 +0200, Dietmar Gack wrote:
> One more question, the double package or only the pdf, is it exclusively for
> your shop or will for instance Amazon or any other online book shop also
> have this offer?
UK-based rubyists (or even European ones) might like to know that
amazon.co.uk has the PickaxeII listed with 30% off RRP, i.e. ?22.36
The book is announced for end of October.
I have no interest in amazon and I look forward to reading the new
edition but I can wait a bit more for the book. Being on a tight budget,
a lower price on the book and less shipping charges are an important
factor.
Nice one - should be free shipping too for mainland UK, since it's
over 19 quid.
--
I'd love to go out with you, but I'm converting my calendar watch from
Julian to Gregorian.
Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
UK-based rubyists (or even European ones) might like to know that
amazon.co.uk has the PickaxeII listed with 30% off RRP, i.e. £22.36
The book is announced for end of October.
In Belgium, at current exchange rates, it's about 1.5 EUR cheaper to buy
the book/PDF combo from the PragProgs directly than to order the book from
amazon.co.uk and the PDF from the PragProgs. I guess that settles it for
me.
