Found this on free ebook site.
# Addison Wesley The Ruby Way 2nd Edition Oct 2006
# learning-ruby
# OReilly - Ruby In a Nutshell
# OReilly Ruby Cookbook Jul 2006
# Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide
# Ruby Cookbook (OReilly, 2006)
# SYNGRESS-Ruby Developers Guide
Most, if not all of these books are definitely not free. Any downloads for
them are likely illegal.
Besides, these myriad "free e-book" sites seem to be fakes built entirely
to get people to increase their pagerank (and possibly ad revenue, if
you think people click on ads at sites that annoy them).
Les
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Laurynn <surejaya@gmail.com> wrote:
Found this on free ebook site.
# Addison Wesley The Ruby Way 2nd Edition Oct 2006
# learning-ruby
# OReilly - Ruby In a Nutshell
# OReilly Ruby Cookbook Jul 2006
# Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide
# Ruby Cookbook (OReilly, 2006)
# SYNGRESS-Ruby Developers Guide
There are so many great and truly free Ruby ebooks available, there's
really no need to shaft the authors that have taken the time and
effort to go through the paper publishing process.
Examples:
The Original Pickaxe: http://www.infoq.com/minibooks/ruby/
Mr. Neighborly's Humble Guide: http://www.infoq.com/minibooks/ruby/
Why's Poignant Guide: http://poignantguide.net/ruby/
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Laurynn <surejaya@gmail.com> wrote:
Found this on free ebook site.
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Laurynn wrote:
Found this on free ebook site.
# Addison Wesley The Ruby Way 2nd Edition Oct 2006
# learning-ruby
# OReilly - Ruby In a Nutshell
# OReilly Ruby Cookbook Jul 2006
# Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide
# Ruby Cookbook (OReilly, 2006)
# SYNGRESS-Ruby Developers Guide
Fun fact:
"You shall not, shall not agree to, and shall not authorize or encourage
any third party to: (i) use the Service to upload, transmit or otherwise
distribute any content that is unlawful, defamatory, harassing, abusive,
fraudulent, obscene, contains viruses, or is otherwise objectionable as
reasonably determined by Google; (ii) upload, transmit or otherwise
distribute content that infringes upon another party's intellectual
property rights or other proprietary, contractual or fiduciary rights or
obligations; (iii) prevent others from using the Service; (iv) use the
Service for any fraudulent or inappropriate purpose; or (v) act in any
way that violates the Program Policies, as may be revised from time to
time."
Google Mail's Terms of Service.
I took the liberty of reporting this email to Google.
That being said, I bow out of this discussion.
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~ -- George Bernard Shaw
I use this one:
I don't have ethical problems likes others!
If you wants buy it, go ahead, I don't have problems with that.
2008/5/15 Leslie Viljoen <leslieviljoen@gmail.com>:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Laurynn <surejaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> Found this on free ebook site.
>
> # Addison Wesley The Ruby Way 2nd Edition Oct 2006
> # learning-ruby
> # OReilly - Ruby In a Nutshell
> # OReilly Ruby Cookbook Jul 2006
> # Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide
> # Ruby Cookbook (OReilly, 2006)
> # SYNGRESS-Ruby Developers GuideMost, if not all of these books are definitely not free. Any downloads for
them are likely illegal.Besides, these myriad "free e-book" sites seem to be fakes built entirely
to get people to increase their pagerank (and possibly ad revenue, if
you think people click on ads at sites that annoy them).Les
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Avdi Grimm wrote:
Found this on free ebook site.
There are so many great and truly free Ruby ebooks available, there's
really no need to shaft the authors that have taken the time and
effort to go through the paper publishing process.
Actually, that is not what it is about (free vs. paid). It's, well, no
notion of ethically correct, or even acceptable or understandable behavior.
There is, in fact, no sense of guilt connected to copyright
infringement. Not even in nations that should know better, and where
infringement *is* prosecuted, like the US or Germany.
Well, I have faith that karma will balance the equation. Always does.
- --
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Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com
~ I'm killing time while I wait for life to shower me with meaning and
happiness. -- Calvin
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Laurynn <surejaya@gmail.com> wrote:
Pablo
The best option is to get the free books that are available. That way
everybody benefits. Those "free versions" are insulting to the authors,
since they do not get paid at all. Hey, ask nicely and somebody might send
you a free used copy.
Rest of the world,
An O'Reilly book costing $45 in the USA costs significantly much more in
Peru; instead of making a straight conversion, think on monthly minimum
wages. A $45 book at $7 per hour means roughly 6.5 hours. Monthly minimum
wage in Peru amounts to $179, which amounts 25% of a monthly minimum wage.
Do you see the disparity, and the lack of incentives for people in Peru to
get the book through Amazon?
So, educate the user and help them find legal sources, instead of accusing
them of thieving.
Best regards,
Camilo
On 5/16/08, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> wrote:
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Hash: SHA1Laurynn wrote:
> Found this on free ebook site.
>
> # Addison Wesley The Ruby Way 2nd Edition Oct 2006
> # learning-ruby
> # OReilly - Ruby In a Nutshell
> # OReilly Ruby Cookbook Jul 2006
> # Programming Ruby - The Pragmatic Programmer's Guide
> # Ruby Cookbook (OReilly, 2006)
> # SYNGRESS-Ruby Developers Guide
>
> http://ebook.mazudi.com/?w=rubyFun fact:
"You shall not, shall not agree to, and shall not authorize or encourage
any third party to: (i) use the Service to upload, transmit or otherwise
distribute any content that is unlawful, defamatory, harassing, abusive,
fraudulent, obscene, contains viruses, or is otherwise objectionable as
reasonably determined by Google; (ii) upload, transmit or otherwise
distribute content that infringes upon another party's intellectual
property rights or other proprietary, contractual or fiduciary rights or
obligations; (iii) prevent others from using the Service; (iv) use the
Service for any fraudulent or inappropriate purpose; or (v) act in any
way that violates the Program Policies, as may be revised from time to
time."Google Mail's Terms of Service.
I took the liberty of reporting this email to Google.
That being said, I bow out of this discussion.
- --
Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.comEvery person who has mastered a profession is a skeptic concerning it.
~ -- George Bernard Shaw
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Pablo Q. wrote:
I use this one:
I don't have ethical problems likes others!
But probably legal problems.
You know that you aren't anonymous on thy internet, do you?
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Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com
Parenthesise to avoid ambiguity.
~ - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
Thank you for being so up-front with the fact that you cannot be
trusted. It's so hard to know who you can trust these days; it's nice
when someone just comes right out and announces in a public forum that
they are unethical and should not be trusted.
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Pablo Q. <paqs140482@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have ethical problems likes others!
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I was under the impression that publishers priced differently in
different markets. Is this not the case?
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Camilo <camilor@gmail.com> wrote:
Rest of the world,
An O'Reilly book costing $45 in the USA costs significantly much more in
Peru; instead of making a straight conversion, think on monthly minimum
wages.
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Camillo,
There is no used copy of ruby (or any other o'reilly book) books in
Peru. The only way would be to buy a used version on Amazon or Ebay.
Unfortunately, sending it to Peru would cost at least 50$ + the cost
of the used book. Not very interesting. As for finding somebody
willing to send you a free copy (and waste 50$ for you), good luck
about that.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Camilo <camilor@gmail.com> wrote:
Pablo
The best option is to get the free books that are available. That way
everybody benefits. Those "free versions" are insulting to the authors,
since they do not get paid at all. Hey, ask nicely and somebody might send
you a free used copy.
I'm not in the "first world" (I'm from latino america), the infrastructure
for this king of persecution don't exist. (I know that in Germany in
different).
2008/5/15 Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com>:
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Hash: SHA1Pablo Q. wrote:
> I use this one:
>
> www.pdfchm.com
>
> I don't have ethical problems likes others!But probably legal problems.
You know that you aren't anonymous on thy internet, do you?
- --
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Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.comParenthesise to avoid ambiguity.
~ - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
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But how do you *know* he can't be trusted? You're just taking his word
for it.
On May 16, 12:29 pm, Avdi Grimm <a...@avdi.org> wrote:
Thank you for being so up-front with the fact that you cannot be
trusted. It's so hard to know who you can trust these days; it's nice
when someone just comes right out and announces in a public forum that
they are unethical and should not be trusted.
That may be true for academic textbooks where several publishers
have "international" (read: non-US) editions. For technical books in
general this doesn't appear to be true. I live in Germany and often
find that it is cheaper to order books from amazon.com than from
amazon.de, even taking customs duty into account.
Michael
On Thursday 22 May 2008, Avdi Grimm wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Camilo <camilor@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rest of the world,
> An O'Reilly book costing $45 in the USA costs significantly much
> more in Peru; instead of making a straight conversion, think on
> monthly minimum wages.I was under the impression that publishers priced differently in
different markets. Is this not the case?
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mailto:michael@schuerig.de
Michael Schürig | Sentenced to making sense
Patrick Aljord wrote:
Pablo
The best option is to get the free books that are available. That way
everybody benefits. Those "free versions" are insulting to the authors,
since they do not get paid at all. Hey, ask nicely and somebody might send
you a free used copy.Camillo,
There is no used copy of ruby (or any other o'reilly book) books in
Peru. The only way would be to buy a used version on Amazon or Ebay.
Unfortunately, sending it to Peru would cost at least 50$ + the cost
of the used book. Not very interesting. As for finding somebody
willing to send you a free copy (and waste 50$ for you), good luck
about that.
Where are you getting your $50 figure? Sending a priority mail flat rate envelope is about $13 for an item weighing up to 4 pounds. Larger items cost more of course, but a lot of books should fit in that rate. By the way, that rate is about the same we pay . If you are curious about the shipping costs go to usps.com and select shipping.
As a person that has spent over $40 shipping a computer to Australia, before the costs went through the ceiling, I know there are those who will send items to other countries at their expense. I don't know if there is anyone in this group that would do this in this case but it is something to keep in mind.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Camilo <camilor@gmail.com> wrote:
True here in India,for some books, although they may be published
sometimes a year or more later.
Today I just purchased "The Ruby Programming language" by D.Flanagan
and Matz for Indian Rs.400( $10 ) . This book is priced more than $26
at Amazon.com.
This book can legally be sold only in the Indian Subcontinent and
some countries in African Continent.
Prasad
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Avdi Grimm <avdi@avdi.org> wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Camilo <camilor@gmail.com> wrote:
Rest of the world,
An O'Reilly book costing $45 in the USA costs significantly much more in
Peru; instead of making a straight conversion, think on monthly minimum
wages.I was under the impression that publishers priced differently in
different markets. Is this not the case?--
AvdiHome: http://avdi.org
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Indeed. According to the Peruvian economist Hernando de Soto, this general lack of property rights is one of the main limitations to economic growth in the region.
Dave
On May 16, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Pablo Q. wrote:
I'm not in the "first world" (I'm from latino america), the infrastructure
for this king of persecution don't exist. (I know that in Germany in
different).
Pablo Q. wrote:
I'm not in the "first world" (I'm from latino america), the infrastructure
for this king of persecution don't exist.
Yet. Even China is tightening up on intellectual property. And *that*
country is way more important than any Latin American country.
- --
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Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com
Rule of Open-Source Programming #1:
Don't whine unless you are going to implement it yourself.
Karl von Laudermann wrote:
Thank you for being so up-front with the fact that you cannot be
trusted. It's so hard to know who you can trust these days; it's nice
when someone just comes right out and announces in a public forum that
they are unethical and should not be trusted.But how do you *know* he can't be trusted? You're just taking his word
for it.
"Me, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be
dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest men you have to worry about,
because you never know when they're going to do something incredibly
stupid."
- - /Captain/ Jack Sparrow
- --
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Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com
~ Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists
elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.
- -- Calvin
On May 16, 12:29 pm, Avdi Grimm <a...@avdi.org> wrote:
Oh, the "Dark Star"-Argument. For true John Carpenter-Fanboys only.
Regards,
Florian Gilcher
On May 16, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Karl von Laudermann wrote:
On May 16, 12:29 pm, Avdi Grimm <a...@avdi.org> wrote:
Thank you for being so up-front with the fact that you cannot be
trusted. It's so hard to know who you can trust these days; it's nice
when someone just comes right out and announces in a public forum that
they are unethical and should not be trusted.But how do you *know* he can't be trusted? You're just taking his word
for it.