You don't have to set up your environment to point at the JVM? How hard
is it to find, download, and install the JVM? How about the same steps
Of course we're talking past your point now (my fault, I didn't get
the joke), but you mention below the JRuby+JRE installer. So the above
steps would be reduced to two: download JRuby+JRE installer from
jruby.com; run it.
I only had to "unpack MRI" to install it, and somehow it took way more
than 1 step.
Yeah, I didn't get that it was a shot against Windows...I should have
looked at all the screenshots
With JRuby 1.4, there's even an installer that can do those two steps
in one shot, plus tweak your PATH. And JRuby 1.4 will have a native
jruby.exe as well.
Tweaking your PATH isn't a step? I'm confused again...
It's an optional step we leave to up to users on *nixes because they
all have their own preferences (future installers may do PATH juggling
for *nix users too). On Windows, we just set it, since more people
there get confused if we don't (and it's a pretty gross process to
I installed JRuby 1.4 that included the JRE. It was exactly 1 step less
than installing MRI on windows. But the limit of (n - 1) as n
approaches infinity is still infinite. Believe me, I felt like I was
No doubt...we spend a *lot* of time trying to support Windows, which
is why we have an installer and a native jruby.exe for the 1.4
release. Windows is just so painful to cope with. I understand why
ruby core doesn't have enough resources to keep it working well and
build things like installers for it.
I would reproduce my last email with JRuby, but this was a dig on
windows, not JRuby. Next time I'll more clearly indicate that I'm
trying to be funny. I'll also say "MacRuby" instead of "JRuby".
Yeah, I get that, but the connotation I read (me being overly
sensitive to such things, to be sure) was that it would be even
*worse* trying to install JRuby for no clear reason. It's not, and so
I often feel the need to address unintentional FUD.
But I withdraw, at any rate, since we're pretty far off from your
actual point now
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Aaron Patterson <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: