Hi,
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
Thanks.
J. D. wrote:
Hi,
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
Thanks.
I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.
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Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
The plan is that I'm open to contributions 
Seriously, if you want a certain database supported in Active Record, you should really have a look at giving it a go. There's a ton of unit tests, lots of examples from the other adapters, and a healthy community. Most adapters are around a hundred lines of code.
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sure it does - it's called mysql. 
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Jamis Buck wrote:
J. D. wrote:
Hi,
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
Thanks.
I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid
target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to
my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.
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Jamis Buck wrote:
J. D. wrote:
Hi,
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
Thanks.
I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.
- Jamis
Do you know if sqlite 3.x will be supported soon? I just guessing you'd be the guru working on 3.x support for ruby. But I don't know how soon that would translate to support in ActiveRecord.
Jamis Buck ha scritto:
J. D. wrote:
Hi,
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
Thanks.
I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.
well, anyway I think an ActiveRecord-like api is possible.
I'm thinking of the MadeleineRecord wish that you can find on the rails wiki, and of ActiveLDAP.
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
The plan is that I'm open to contributions
Seriously, if you want a certain database supported in Active Record, you should really have a look at giving it a go. There's a ton of unit tests, lots of examples from the other adapters, and a healthy community. Most adapters are around a hundred lines of code.
Keep in mind, though, that much of the functionality that AR::Base adds to your subclasses is implemented using SQL. Thus, unless your chosen backend supports an SQL interface, you'll probably wind up having to reimplement most of that functionality. Which means AR wouldn't be buying you very much. 
It would be *nice* (and I'm not volunteering, David! ;)) if AR abstracted a bit more away from SQL, but that would add a lot more complexity to an already fairly complex beast. As it is, it is a great fit for *most* things, and for everything else, wellll....there's MasterCard. (sorry, I couldn't resist.)
- Jamis
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J. D. wrote:
Jamis Buck wrote:
J. D. wrote:
Hi,
Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?
Thanks.
I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.
- Jamis
Do you know if sqlite 3.x will be supported soon? I just guessing you'd be the guru working on 3.x support for ruby.
SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to stabilize. (I've had reports that it is still not quite ready for production stuff.) Also, it appears that more people are wanting me to finish Net::SSH than work on SQLite3, so Net::SSH is my current priority (now that Needle 1.0 is out the door).
- Jamis
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if AR abstracted a bit more away from SQL, but that would add a lot more complexity to an already fairly complex beast. As it is, it is a great fit for *most* things, and for everything else, wellll....there's MasterCard. (sorry, I couldn't resist.)
Active Record's niche is the close relationship with SQL. I see that as a definite strength over similar frameworks that attempts to abstract the querying to their own object-like interfaces.
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what you need is some more projects
all - we need to start a paypal account for jamis or something!
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Jamis Buck wrote:
SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to
stabilize. (I've had reports that it is still not quite ready for production
stuff.) Also, it appears that more people are wanting me to finish Net::SSH
than work on SQLite3, so Net::SSH is my current priority (now that Needle
1.0 is out the door).
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SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to
stabilize. (I've had reports that it is still not quite ready for production
stuff.) Also, it appears that more people are wanting me to finish Net::SSH
than work on SQLite3, so Net::SSH is my current priority (now that Needle
1.0 is out the door).what you need is some more projects
lol no kidding. I'm quite motivated to get Net::SSH stabilized, though, because once that's done
all - we need to start a paypal account for jamis or something!
Hey, I'm always open to free money.
- Jamis
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Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov wrote:
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Jamis Buck wrote:
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Jamis Buck wrote:
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Ara.T.Howard@noaa.gov wrote:
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Jamis Buck wrote:
SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to
stabilize. (I've had reports that it is still not quite ready for production
stuff.) Also, it appears that more people are wanting me to finish Net::SSH
than work on SQLite3, so Net::SSH is my current priority (now that Needle
1.0 is out the door).what you need is some more projects
lol
Gah! I don't even have time to finish my sentences! What I *meant* to say was, "because once that's done, I'll have some time to focus on some projects I've been neglecting for a long time, like my personal finance manager."
Sheesh.
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obviously to manage the terrific influx of paypal donations right?
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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Jamis Buck wrote:
Gah! I don't even have time to finish my sentences!
was, "because once that's done, I'll have some time to focus on some
projects I've been neglecting for a long time, like my personal finance
manager."
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