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John Mettraux wrote:
> 2007/4/12, ChrisKaelin <ck.stonedragon@gmail.com>:
>>
>> So what IDE do you prefer in order to code and to debug ruby?
>
> vim, bash, grep, less, ...
+ sed
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John Mettraux wrote:
> 2007/4/12, ChrisKaelin <ck.stonedragon@gmail.com>:
>>
>> So what IDE do you prefer in order to code and to debug ruby?
>
> vim, bash, grep, less, ...
+ sed
i am in linux so i have textmate - envy.
scribes comes pretty close, i think, in workflow though.
sk
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On 4/12/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:
TextMate!
On Apr 12, 2007, at 9:12 PM, Alexey Kalmykov wrote:
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>
> John Mettraux wrote:
>> 2007/4/12, ChrisKaelin <ck.stonedragon@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> So what IDE do you prefer in order to code and to debug ruby?
>>
>> vim, bash, grep, less, ...
> + sed
>
> --
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>
IDE stands for "Integrated Development Environment". I can't speak
for VI users, but Emacs has Ruby source code editing, project
management, the ability to cross-reference code symbols,
auto-completion, source templates, integrated source-level debugging
(if you want it), IRB, and the ability to run your code and tests
right from the editor. What's missing that it fails to qualify as an
IDE?
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On 4/12/07, ChrisKaelin <ck.stonedragon@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I should've written "vi, emacs, irb and commandline do not
count", but that would've given me some flames
Huh? That's just arbitrary nonsense!
(this may be a flame)
I dare you to define IDE under pain of slashdotting.
(why is slashdot so flamey?)
Seriously though, editors are viable as IDEs if they do the sending to the compiler/parser.
TextMate, like EMACS is often more of a nexus of tools, but isn't that what the "I" in IDE is all about?
From that note, what constitutes debugging? Stepping through a program with breakpoints? Perhaps, but no. Debugging is simply removing the bugs by any means necessary.
irb is an unusual case only seriously matched by shell code and SmallTalk.
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On Apr 12, 2007, at 10:35 PM, ChrisKaelin wrote:
Well, I should've written "vi, emacs, irb and commandline do not
count", but that would've given me some flames
i love these favorite editor / ide threads, i am always looking for a
new one to play around with. I have always found the coolest things in
these threads.
sk
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On 4/12/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:
Huh? That's just arbitrary nonsense!
(this may be a flame)
I dare you to define IDE under pain of slashdotting.
(why is slashdot so flamey?)
Seriously though, editors are viable as IDEs if they do the sending
to the compiler/parser.
TextMate, like EMACS is often more of a nexus of tools, but isn't
that what the "I" in IDE is all about?
From that note, what constitutes debugging? Stepping through a
program with breakpoints? Perhaps, but no. Debugging is simply
removing the bugs by any means necessary.
irb is an unusual case only seriously matched by shell code and
SmallTalk.
On Apr 12, 2007, at 10:35 PM, ChrisKaelin wrote:
> Well, I should've written "vi, emacs, irb and commandline do not
> count", but that would've given me some flames
>
> BTW, does textmate support debugging?
>
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:46:16 +0900, Avdi Grimm wrote:
On 4/12/07, ChrisKaelin <ck.stonedragon@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I should've written "vi, emacs, irb and commandline do not
count", but that would've given me some flames
Not a flame: how do they not count?
IDE stands for "Integrated Development Environment". I can't speak
for VI users, but Emacs has Ruby source code editing, project
management, the ability to cross-reference code symbols,
auto-completion, source templates, integrated source-level debugging
(if you want it), IRB, and the ability to run your code and tests
right from the editor. What's missing that it fails to qualify as an
IDE?