It's quite ironic as many Canadian developers hold the same view when
working at positions within the US. I was a Canadian developer working
in the states from 1994-2002 under various visas and I often had to
justify my position to immigration officials from the stance as to why
an American couldn't fulfill the requirement.
Yes ... another irony is that the Regional Manager my boss reported to
was Canadian and had the same problem in Boston.
Secondly, when applying for an H-1 from a TN, a posting of the job
requirement (for my job at that given time) had to be posted within at
least 3 public venues in order to allow an American to compete for said
position.
I don't want to give the impression that I am sore about this, I believe
every country has the right to protect it's work force.
It's not really protecting anything in the long run, but as Keynes said,
"in the long run, we are all dead." I wonder how it is where the OP
lives.
What I'd like to know is, which country can help me to be a better
programmer? user groups, seminars, availability of resources and
things like these...
Which ever one has Silicon Valley.
.....
Aha! Canada. Ottawa (including the part called Kanata) is sometimes
called 'Silicon Valley North'. (Note: bias declared;
I'm a Canadian).
John.
That's where they wanted me to move -- Ottawa. The other thing Ottawa
has going for it is that the lakes and ponds freeze up solid enough to
drive trucks on.
Wow.
This is such a good question.
Do you actually have to go to a country to hack/program/work there?
Is it a matter of payment? Lifestyle?
Attitude?
Business opportunity?
Sydney is a city of real-estate-first.
Predominantly, if you do not have this as 1st attitude, you do not fit in.
There is a predominance of market-obedience in Sydney.
Not sure if the two above are/how linked.
So Ruby is mostly Rails-driven in Sydney.
Less so in Melbourne.
More rain in Melbourne, less real estate frenzy.
Better contemplation environment. It appears (not from experience).
Academically, ANU in Canberra is #1. Rational atmosphere. A capital
built between population centres. (Not good IMHO).
All up the coast there are pockets of excellence.
People who can afford to make a small tera-firma-island & live there
can get good value.
In-cost has risen the recent years as there are some delightful spots.
Canada has a broader attitude base, It appears (also, not from experience).
Aus. is in the southern Hemisphere, takes longer to get here.
Travel in-out can cause 'air-sickness'... http://www.toxicairlines.com/
It is both a dumping ground for obsolete stuff & a testing ground for new stuff.
We are just about to leave a ten-year experiment of our
government-induced fiscal policy/philosophy of "Financially Fittest
via Financial Darwinism".
As you get to know the legacy of this you will find that most
'services' are now 'authorities'.
Most of these authorities are under-funded as the privatization has
left them 'leaner'.
The private contractors who have taken the punt are under the rules of
basic arithmetic & cannot spend on speculation. So services are
sometimes non-existent.
(Courses in Tafe an example).
Core infrastructure suffers from privatization syndrome. Most bulk
produce is trucked privately now. Trains stop at Orange in the Blue
Mountains.
Most of government action is knee-jerk. Out water for example
triggered an emergency response. Even when this gov. has been in
'position' to know for over ten years.
Indigenous affairs. Shameful.
Better weather than London.
Not many mountains. Mostly desert really.
Wherein lies one of the most fascinating conjunction of opposites.
The desert is an amazingly creative place.
You would need a Virtual Working Visa.
Which, as far as I know do not yet exist.
If you're thinking of a Virtual Working contract.
I will soon ask an accountant if there is a known way to handle
off-shore efforts.
You can declare income in your tax, money paid into an account would
be 'visible'.
There may be a threshold for 'offshore contracting', if this is the term in use.
Just that I'd been wondering on this topic parallel to post.
Markt
···
How would someone be authorized to work in NZ if not a citizen?
Ways you're not likely to die:
In a terrorist attack. Look out bad guys, We have the magnets and we're
alert, but not alarmed.
(Our Gov't too has been spinning the terror thing for all it's worth.
You (in the US) got your constitution neutered. We got fridge magnets.)
John H. Lindsay wrote:
> James Britt wrote:
>> Houman Dunnil wrote:
>>
>>> What I'd like to know is, which country can help me to be a better
>>> programmer? user groups, seminars, availability of resources and
>>> things like these...
>>
>> Which ever one has Silicon Valley.
> .....
>
> Aha! Canada. Ottawa (including the part called Kanata) is sometimes
> called 'Silicon Valley North'. (Note: bias declared;
> I'm a Canadian).
>
> John.
That's where they wanted me to move -- Ottawa. The other thing Ottawa
has going for it is that the lakes and ponds freeze up solid enough to
drive trucks on.
Wait a minute ... is that a feature or a bug?
its a freeture
···
On 7/28/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
--
[...] as simple as possible, but no simpler.
-- Attributed to Albert Einstein
Thanks, but I meant what if I were to move there? I'm American. In the US, you
need a visa to work legally if not a citizen.
Mentioned the subject to my wife this morning. She wasn't interested in moving
to NZ.
Eric
In article <1e3e0f820707280005y512ee822t4f8cb4c3f9ffb8ba@mail.gmail.com>,
···
"Mark T" <paradisaeidae@gmail.com> wrote:
You would need a Virtual Working Visa.
Which, as far as I know do not yet exist.
If you're thinking of a Virtual Working contract.
I will soon ask an accountant if there is a known way to handle
off-shore efforts.
You can declare income in your tax, money paid into an account would
be 'visible'.
There may be a threshold for 'offshore contracting', if this is the term in
use.
Just that I'd been wondering on this topic parallel to post.
Markt
How would someone be authorized to work in NZ if not a citizen?
A work permit is easily obtained if you work in IT and have a job
offer from an NZ company.
Official government information at http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/
"In this section you will find everything you need to apply for a visa
and permit to work, temporarily or permanently, in New Zealand."
As a general rule, people move here for the lifestyle, not for the income.
May I ask why my former colleague who moved to Australia blew me off when I suggested he get me onto his next project? Was he just being polite when he claimed Oz has strict immigration policies, or is Oz that different from NZ?
In article <ea7284a10707282016x3d2042aar8232bda488bed773@mail.gmail.com>, "Roy Britten" <roy.britten@gmail.com> wrote:
How would someone be authorized to work in NZ if not a citizen?
A work permit is easily obtained if you work in IT and have a job
offer from an NZ company.
Official government information at Immigration New Zealand
"In this section you will find everything you need to apply for a visa
and permit to work, temporarily or permanently, in New Zealand."
As a general rule, people move here for the lifestyle, not for the income.
For what it's worth, there's a company which was organizing, a little
while back, a sort of Rails programmers' world tour work group. The
idea was, they'd get together a group of good RoR hackers, get them
oriented in the company, gelling as a team, etc., and then put them on
a plane for Thailand, after which they'd kind of hop around the
Pacific for a while, maybe the Caribbean as well, working out of cheap
but peaceful backpacker tourist spots for about a year.
Kind of a tangent, but relevant to the general question of working
with Ruby worldwide. I don't know if they ever actually got it off the
ground.
Ways you're not likely to die:
In a terrorist attack. Look out bad guys, We have the magnets and we're
alert, but not alarmed.
(Our Gov't too has been spinning the terror thing for all it's worth.
You (in the US) got your constitution neutered. We got fridge magnets.)
Ahh... the drop bears. Like I mentioned somewhere previously, the work I do is classified and so I'm unable to reveal any further information.
You may, however, find a reference in an add for Bunduberg Rum.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:31:57PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
On 7/28/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
> That's where they wanted me to move -- Ottawa. The other thing Ottawa
> has going for it is that the lakes and ponds freeze up solid enough to
> drive trucks on.
>
> Wait a minute ... is that a feature or a bug?
its a freeture
--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
May I ask why my former colleague who moved to Australia blew me off when I
suggested he get me onto his next project? Was he just being polite when he
claimed Oz has strict immigration policies, or is Oz that different from NZ?
For what it's worth, there's a company which was organizing, a little
while back, a sort of Rails programmers' world tour work group. The
idea was, they'd get together a group of good RoR hackers, get them
oriented in the company, gelling as a team, etc., and then put them on
a plane for Thailand, after which they'd kind of hop around the
Pacific for a while, maybe the Caribbean as well, working out of cheap
but peaceful backpacker tourist spots for about a year.
Kind of a tangent, but relevant to the general question of working
with Ruby worldwide. I don't know if they ever actually got it off the
ground.
Hmmm ... how about a small group of RoR hackers that just works out of a
well-equipped airliner and lands only to refuel and goof off?
They landed in Thailand, discovered Soy Cowboy, and were never heard
from again....
Dan
···
On Jul 29, 12:12 pm, "Giles Bowkett" <gil...@gmail.com> wrote:
For what it's worth, there's a company which was organizing, a little
while back, a sort of Rails programmers' world tour work group. The
idea was, they'd get together a group of good RoR hackers, get them
oriented in the company, gelling as a team, etc., and then put them on
a plane for Thailand, after which they'd kind of hop around the
Pacific for a while, maybe the Caribbean as well, working out of cheap
but peaceful backpacker tourist spots for about a year.
Kind of a tangent, but relevant to the general question of working
with Ruby worldwide. I don't know if they ever actually got it off the
ground.
Ways you're not likely to die:
In a terrorist attack. Look out bad guys, We have the magnets and we're
alert, but not alarmed.
(Our Gov't too has been spinning the terror thing for all it's worth.
You (in the US) got your constitution neutered. We got fridge magnets.)
Ahh... the drop bears. Like I mentioned somewhere previously, the work I
do is classified and so I'm unable to reveal any further information.
You may, however, find a reference in an add for Bunduberg Rum.
Cheers,
Dave
Ah ... OK ... I was hoping for pictures of the fridge magnets. I don't
suppose they have drop bears on them.
