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What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new Ruby user? Currently using Windows 7. I have some prior programming experience using C language. Thank you.

No best out there it's preference. Everything is better than Windows for
what your looking for. Go with a widely used Distro so you have a lot of
support. I would recommend Ubuntu or Mint. I personally enjoy Mint a little
better. I also used to only use Windows.

BTW windows 10 is introducing Linux on Windows this summer. I have beta
version and it still has issues. You can use Linux utilities like grep on
your Windows filesystem though which was pretty cool. I got Ruby installed
but as soon as you start to install things like rails things start to fall
apart.

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On Jun 27, 2016 10:53 AM, "Joseph Rex" <joseph@strich.io> wrote:

Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and
I’ve seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new
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Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and I’ve seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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I think Manjaro is a good linux starting point... light and simple

https://manjaro.github.io/Manjaro-JWM-16.06.1-released/

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On 06/27/2016 01:21 PM, Ale Miralles wrote:

Been there before. Just go ubuntu all the way thru; you will be fine.
~ Ale Miralles.

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    Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS
    X and I’ve seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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~ Ale Miralles.

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Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and
I’ve seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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I have a couple of instances running on Ubuntu, but prefer my Debian-based docker images.

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Just use Ubuntu with RVM. Google for it and everything will come under your
eyes.

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Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and
I’ve seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new
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Personally, I'm a fan of old-style UNIX capabilities like
Focus-Follows-Mouse. Click-to-focus popularized by Doze drives me
nuts.

As a result, I've settled on Linux Mint MATE because it uses the older
Gnome2 window control system and dozen't have the Unity button panel.
It's core release is based on Ubuntu, so you have tons of packages
available.

JetBrains RubyMine is worth the price as my primary development tool.

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On 6/27/16, Joseph Rex <joseph@strich.io> wrote:

Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and I’ve
seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new
Ruby user?
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  What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new Ruby user? Currently using Windows 7. I have some prior programming experience using C language. Thank you.

Ubuntu is user friendly. Please don't use OSX as its proprietary. Once you are accustomed with Ubuntu GNU Linux, you can switch true free linux distro listed here List of Free GNU/Linux Distributions - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

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I prefer Debian. They are committed to Free Software, provide all the
source code + dependencies in an easy-to-use format, and their bug
tracker requires no registration, just email (preferably using
"reportbug" tool).

Whenever I have a problem, I do something along the following
lines:

# If I feel confident I can hack the source,
# otherwise I jump to the last step and just report the bug :slight_smile:

  sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE # install build dependencies
  apt-get source PACKAGE # unpacks source in PACKAGE-DIR

  cd PACKAGE-DIR

  # hack, hack, hack at the code.
  # build:
  debian/rules build
  fakeroot debian/rules binary
  # install package generated via "binary" rule via "dpkg -i"
  # create patch via git or just "diff -u ORIGINAL NEW >fix.patch"

  reportbug PACKAGE # follow prompts and attach patch

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What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new Ruby user? Currently using Windows 7. I have some prior programming experience using C language. Thank you.

Again, Ubuntu is probably a good starting point for almost anything,
and that includes Ruby. I have done man years worth of successful
ruby programming on Ubuntu. Caveats for Ruby:

1. Bias toward the gem package installs rather than the .deb ones for
ruby facilities themselves. Similar can be said for node and python:
Use the native package managers. You can install gems with the Ubuntu
package manager, but do the rest with gems.
2. I found ruby Windows facilities were not useable. Please let us
know if you find otherwise.
3. You will find CentOS and RedHat are often still preferred by some
shops, so once you are more on top of Ruby, you may want to learn a
little of the RedHat family stuff. It used to be 90% Red Hat family,
but I think it is still around 50% out there in working shops. It is
much harder and less productive to do most things on Red Hat than on
Ubuntu.

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:59 AM, David Anema <danema@mac.com> wrote:

I have a couple of instances running on Ubuntu, but prefer my Debian-based
docker images.

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For a while rbenv was in favor over RVM. rbenv is more minimalist and
my group at Rhapsody used it. Worth looking it. Same author as bats.

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Ferreira <danieldasilvaferreira@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Joseph Rex <joseph@strich.io> wrote:

Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and
I’ve seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

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Just use Ubuntu with RVM. Google for it and everything will come under your
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Again, Ubuntu is probably a good starting point for almost anything,
and that includes Ruby. I have done man years worth of successful
ruby programming on Ubuntu. Caveats for Ruby:

1. Bias toward the gem package installs rather than the .deb ones for
ruby facilities themselves. Similar can be said for node and python:
Use the native package managers. You can install gems with the Ubuntu
package manager, but do the rest with gems.

This is unclear. When you say "native" you mean Rubygems rather than
dpkg/apt, correct? And when you say "You can install gems with the Ubuntu
package manager" do you mean "You can install Ruby..." or "You can install
Rubygems..." ?

(If I understand you correctly, you're saying to install actual gem
packages without using the Ubuntu package manager; that seems to be what
most people recommend.)

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Xeno Campanoli <xeno.campanoli@gmail.com> wrote:

2. I found ruby Windows facilities were not useable. Please let us
know if you find otherwise.
3. You will find CentOS and RedHat are often still preferred by some
shops, so once you are more on top of Ruby, you may want to learn a
little of the RedHat family stuff. It used to be 90% Red Hat family,
but I think it is still around 50% out there in working shops. It is
much harder and less productive to do most things on Red Hat than on
Ubuntu.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:59 AM, David Anema <danema@mac.com> wrote:
> I have a couple of instances running on Ubuntu, but prefer my
Debian-based
> docker images.
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Thanks for helping.

Personally, I'm a fan of old-style UNIX capabilities like
Focus-Follows-Mouse. Click-to-focus popularized by Doze drives me
nuts.

As a result, I've settled on Linux Mint MATE because it uses the older
Gnome2 window control system and dozen't have the Unity button panel.
It's core release is based on Ubuntu, so you have tons of packages
available.

JetBrains RubyMine is worth the price as my primary development tool.

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On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:31 PM, Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/27/16, Joseph Rex <joseph@strich.io> wrote:

Just use anything that’s based on Unix. There’s no best. I use OS X and I’ve
seen a lot of Rubyist use Ubuntu, Debian, and OS X

On Jun 27, 2016, at 12:48 PM, WD Finley <finleywd@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Ruby user?
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Ubuntu is best and giving best performance.

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On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Karthikeyan A K < karthikeyan@openmailbox.org> wrote:

Ubuntu is user friendly. Please don't use OSX as its proprietary. Once you
are accustomed with Ubuntu GNU Linux, you can switch true free linux distro
listed here List of Free GNU/Linux Distributions - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

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Ruby user?
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I'm all for it Eric, but are you giving that advise to someone that wnats
to use ruby and Linux for the first time? :slight_smile:

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WD Finley <finleywd@yahoo.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new
Ruby user? Currently using Windows 7. I have some prior programming
experience using C language. Thank you.

I prefer Debian. They are committed to Free Software, provide all the
source code + dependencies in an easy-to-use format, and their bug
tracker requires no registration, just email (preferably using
"reportbug" tool).

Whenever I have a problem, I do something along the following
lines:

# If I feel confident I can hack the source,
# otherwise I jump to the last step and just report the bug :slight_smile:

        sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE # install build dependencies
        apt-get source PACKAGE # unpacks source in PACKAGE-DIR

        cd PACKAGE-DIR

        # hack, hack, hack at the code.
        # build:
        debian/rules build
        fakeroot debian/rules binary
        # install package generated via "binary" rule via "dpkg -i"
        # create patch via git or just "diff -u ORIGINAL NEW >fix.patch"

        reportbug PACKAGE # follow prompts and attach patch

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Yes, I recommend the native rubygems installs. For instance I believe
there are rubygems installs for putting together a Ruby-on-rails
environment, but there is also a .deb/dpkg/apt install, and the latter
is notoriously broken. Even if it is not broken, the native
environment does, I believe, get more maintenance attention, so it is
less likely to break. Apt/.deb is good for native Ubuntu and debian
stuff, and it is one of the things I like most about Ubuntu, but I try
not to use that ever for ruby specifics.

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On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Xeno Campanoli <xeno.campanoli@gmail.com> > wrote:

Again, Ubuntu is probably a good starting point for almost anything,
and that includes Ruby. I have done man years worth of successful
ruby programming on Ubuntu. Caveats for Ruby:

1. Bias toward the gem package installs rather than the .deb ones for
ruby facilities themselves. Similar can be said for node and python:
Use the native package managers. You can install gems with the Ubuntu
package manager, but do the rest with gems.

This is unclear. When you say "native" you mean Rubygems rather than
dpkg/apt, correct? And when you say "You can install gems with the Ubuntu
package manager" do you mean "You can install Ruby..." or "You can install
Rubygems..." ?

(If I understand you correctly, you're saying to install actual gem packages
without using the Ubuntu package manager; that seems to be what most people
recommend.)

2. I found ruby Windows facilities were not useable. Please let us
know if you find otherwise.
3. You will find CentOS and RedHat are often still preferred by some
shops, so once you are more on top of Ruby, you may want to learn a
little of the RedHat family stuff. It used to be 90% Red Hat family,
but I think it is still around 50% out there in working shops. It is
much harder and less productive to do most things on Red Hat than on
Ubuntu.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:59 AM, David Anema <danema@mac.com> wrote:
> I have a couple of instances running on Ubuntu, but prefer my
> Debian-based
> docker images.
>
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>
> What would be best Linux distribution to install as a new Linux and new
> Ruby
> user?
> Currently using Windows 7. I have some prior programming experience
> using C
> language.
> Thank you.
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