Thanks! (Re: Another elementary problem...)

Wow, that was great, thanks very much! There is a lot of great info here. I
really appreciate it.

Have a good day my friend,
Christopher

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Subject: Re: Another elementary problem…
To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
Hi –

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 christopher.j.meisenzahl@citicorp.com wrote:

Juergen,

Thanks!

I’m new to Ruby and in general I understand the difference between
class scope and instance scope. But I’m not clear on why the original
code wasn’t working. Can you explain a little more?

In the original, the code was doing something equivalent to this:

class A
def talk
puts “Hello”
end
end

A.talk # error

The problem here is that, while instances of A respond to “talk”, the class
object A itself does not respond to “talk”. That’s another way of saying:
class A does not have a class method called “talk”, only an instance method.

So, you could rewrite this as:

class A
def A.talk
puts “Hello”
end
end

A.talk # Hello

If that answers your question, you can stop reading :slight_smile: But here’s some more
info about class methods, for your possible reading pleasure.

Every object responds to certain messages (i.e., can call methods with certain
names). Usually those methods are the instance methods defined by the object’s
class:

class C
def blah
end
end

c = C.new
c.blah

However, it’s also possible to add methods to individual objects:

def c.speak
puts “I’m a method defined only for this object”
end

Now, c will respond to “speak” – but other instances of class C will
not:

c.speak # “I’m a method…”
n = C.new
n.speak # error

This means that “speak” is a singleton method of c.

OK… now look at this:

class D
def D.greet
puts “Hi”
end
end

D.greet # Hi

Notice the similarity between the syntax involved in creating a new singleton
method for c:

def c.speak …

and creating a class method of class D;

def D.greet …

In fact, these are essentially the same thing. In both cases, what’s happening
is that a singleton method is being added to a particular object. It just
happens to be that in the second case, the object getting the new method is a
Class object (as opposed to a String, an Array, an instance of MyClass, etc).
So now D responds to “greet”, just as c responds to “speak”.

In other words, the term “class method” is just a special term for something
which you can do with any mutable object: namely, add a singleton method to it.
It has a special name because in actual program design, class methods have a
special role to play. But what they are, at heart, is singleton methods
defined on objects, where those objects happen to be instances of a class
called Class.

The use of uppercase names (constants) for classes can obscure the fact that
classes are just objects. Also, the usual style is to put class method
definitions inside the class definition, which makes it look like they have
some special status. But look at this:

class E
end

Defining “class method” outside of class definition:

def E.greet
puts “hi”
end

Dispensing with the constant name for the class:

var = E
def var.talk
puts “This method is defined outside the class definition”
end

var.talk # This method…
E.talk # This method…
var.greet # hi

etc.

You can see that some of the special treatment of classes – constants as
names, the separate notion of “class method” for their singleton methods – is
just that: special treatment. Underneath, a class is indeed an object.

</unsolicited tutorial>

Christopher J. Meisenzahl CPS, CSTE
Senior Software Testing Consultant
Spherion
christopher.j.meisenzahl@citicorp.com