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> > I'm tempted, but I'll resist. While the majority of open source apps
> > that use Qt do so through KDE, the same is not true for commercial
> > apps. Your statement that "Qt generally means 'plus thirty KDE
> > libraries'" is, at best, only applicable to open source Qt apps, which
> > makes it irrelevant to the discussion of Textmate. At worst it is
> > actual trolling.
>
> Considering that, like E-TextEditor, a Linux/BSD version would probably
> not be an actual port of TextMate, I doubt the fact that TextMate is a
> commercial app would be particularly limiting in determining what
> libraries would be used for such a unixy clone of the software.
No one was talking about a clone. The discussion was about the Textmate
guys themselves porting to Qt4 to make it cross-platform, and that's why
I'm taking issue with your post. We're specifically talking about a
proprietary application (well, two of them if you count the Windows clone).
You brought up KDE, which is almost exclusively used by open source
applications. It's completely irrelevant.
So . . . you'd only use it if it was created by the same guy? Are you
more interested in who owns the copyright than whether or not the
software provides the functionality you need?
> Considering that you're so quick to leap to judgment about trolling, you
> sound a bit like a troll yourself.
Ad hominem. Ignored.
That's really funny, considering the accusation to which that was a
reply.
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On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:45:57AM +0900, Gregory Seidman wrote:
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:26:09AM +0900, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:22:32AM +0900, Gregory Seidman wrote:
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CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
unix virus: If you're using a unixlike OS, please forward
this to 20 others and erase your system partition.
Trying to ignore the rest of what I said about who's writing what
software is getting tiring. I got involved in this discussion because
I'd like to see what all the fuss is about, regarding the functionality
and interface characteristics of TextMate -- not because I think
TextMate can make a bunch of money through a free unix port. See
previous messages for context or cease replying to me on this subject,
please.
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On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:51:14AM +0900, David Vallner wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:32:09AM +0900, David Vallner wrote:
>> Chad Perrin wrote:
>>> The "ostensibly" bit is the important part of your statement: yes, it's
>>> entirely possible to write Qt applications without KDE libraries, but so
>>> rare as to be thoroughly remarkable -- especially since I haven't seen a
>>> credible app yet that uses Qt but not KDE libraries.
> I probably should have been more clear about the fact that I'm speaking
> from the perspective of an open source software user.
From which the only thing that follows is that your perspective is
intentionally narrow. Since the vast of open-source development happens
on OSS Unixen, where a KDE dependency is not a limiting factor to any
commercial end, it would make sense that someone making a GUI app on the
Qt side would use the extra rope that KDE would give him for his own
convenience or to get more functionality for his time.
However, TextMate is not a non-profit open-source volunteer project.
Trying to suggest what decisions they'd make while speaking
demonstratively from a perspective that is, as you yourself admit, very
much not the perspective of the TextMate developers strikes me as odd in
the very least.
--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
"The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your
hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." - McCloctnick the Lucid
Y'know, this has been bothering me for a bit, so I decided to go back
and read the thread from the beginning again. If you do so as well, you
may notice that I was the first person in this thread to suggest a Linux
or FreeBSD version of the software. While I sloppily used the word
"port" when what I meant was "clone", the fact that I brought it up in
the first place might be an indicator that I know what subject is under
discussion. Please refrain from assigning my wishful thinking to
others, then using that mistake to tell me I'm wrong.
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On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:45:04AM +0900, David Vallner wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
> Considering that, like E-TextEditor, a Linux/BSD version would probably
> not be an actual port of TextMate.
Actually, that's how I did in fact read Jonas Hartmann's wishful thinking.
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CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
unix virus: If you're using a unixlike OS, please forward
this to 20 others and erase your system partition.
TextMate is a commercial product for the Mac, that is a legitimate choice made by his author.
If you think some sort of clone would be good in a different platform, GUI toolkit, whatever, go launch an open source project and start programming, good luck.
Please stop this thread.
-- fxn
I haven't said anything on the subject for about 19 hours before you
posted this. Perhaps you should have said that to the guy that posted
after me, rather than to me, just because you don't like my position.
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On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:35:26PM +0900, Xavier Noria wrote:
TextMate is a commercial product for the Mac, that is a legitimate
choice made by his author.
If you think some sort of clone would be good in a different
platform, GUI toolkit, whatever, go launch an open source project and
start programming, good luck.
Please stop this thread.
--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
Amazon.com interview candidate: "When C++ is your
hammer, everything starts to look like your thumb."