Italian, definitely Italian because Puccini, Bellini and Donizetti
will never go away, and some like Verdi too, but do not tell my French
wife. Well 574km/h is an achievement though, well done. (I am talking
about the train
Robert
Neither will Rameau, Bizet, Berlioz, Poulenc, Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Shostakovich, Wagner, Richard Strauss, Britten, Bolcomb, Gershwin, Adams or Tan Dun.
Trains -- well, there it's back to French or Japanese, I think.
P.P.S: I actually tried to create a language that looks a *lot* like Unlambda in the 1970s. I really thought it was useful, not some bizarre computer scientist's way of making unreadable code. I wonder what would have happened if I had tried to publish it?
You'd probably have your own mailing list, and people would be calling
you by some kind of cute four-letter term of endearment that ends with
Z. Well, okay, maybe not, but it's fun to dream.
This was in the early -- mid 1970s, before mailing lists and personal computers. I discovered the lambda calculus and volume one of _Combinatory Logic_ by Curry and Feys (the Curry being *Haskell* Curry) in about 1971. That was when I decided to learn Lisp and read McCarthy's paper. The language was going to be called "STRIP" by analogy with LISt Processing for Lisp -- STRIP for STRIng Processing. It was essentially McCarthy's character based version of Lisp (I forget what he called it) with combinators instead of lambdas. When I saw Unlambda a couple of weeks ago, I said, "Whoa! Somebody actually *did* that?"
I do have my own mailing list, and people call me "znmeb", a cute five-letter word that beings with z. Hmmm ...
hmm.
not to mention, vacuum tubes are extremely good for amplifying circuits.
still used in high powered radar.
And there are still audiophiles who will not use transistor-based sound equipment because they can actually hear the difference. As a matter of fact, there used to be a company that made a frightfully expensive vacuum-tube-based synthesizer for similar reasons.
On 4 Apr 2007, at 02:59, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Lyapas
Well that's one of the least-informative googles I've ever performed. Not even an "Hello World"...
Ellie
Eleanor McHugh
Games With Brains
----
raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds_to? :reason
Go to Addall.com and do an out-of-print book search for it. The publisher is Academic Press. I actually have a copy of it, but I don't remember where it is at the moment. It's a collector's item.
Well that's one of the least-informative googles I've ever performed.
Not even an "Hello World"...
Well at least I've learned that "l'yapas" in Ukrainian means "slap on
the face".
LYAPAS was created in 1967 by Belarusian scientist Arkadiy Zakrevsky
for describing IC later proceeded by CAD software (automating tracing
tasks). Language itself was given informally and contained about 400
commands. In a few years it was replaced by LYAPAS-M.
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 12:48:21PM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
>>P.P.S: I actually tried to create a language that looks a *lot* like
>>Unlambda in the 1970s. I really thought it was useful, not some bizarre
>>computer scientist's way of making unreadable code. I wonder what would
>>have happened if I had tried to publish it?
>>
>
>You'd probably have your own mailing list, and people would be calling
>you by some kind of cute four-letter term of endearment that ends with
>Z. Well, okay, maybe not, but it's fun to dream.
>
This was in the early -- mid 1970s, before mailing lists and personal
computers. I discovered the lambda calculus and volume one of
_Combinatory Logic_ by Curry and Feys (the Curry being *Haskell* Curry)
in about 1971. That was when I decided to learn Lisp and read McCarthy's
paper. The language was going to be called "STRIP" by analogy with LISt
Processing for Lisp -- STRIP for STRIng Processing. It was essentially
McCarthy's character based version of Lisp (I forget what he called it)
with combinators instead of lambdas. When I saw Unlambda a couple of
weeks ago, I said, "Whoa! Somebody actually *did* that?"
I do have my own mailing list, and people call me "znmeb", a cute
five-letter word that beings with z. Hmmm ...
--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
I'll have to pick up a copy next time I have time for some light reading. The mentions of it being similar to APL are intriguing - that's one of the few languages I've met that I've not been able to get into.
Ellie
Eleanor McHugh
Games With Brains
···
On 4 Apr 2007, at 15:48, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Go to Addall.com and do an out-of-print book search for it. The publisher is Academic Press. I actually have a copy of it, but I don't remember where it is at the moment. It's a collector's item.
There is more than "hearing" alone. It has to do with the way signals clip in vacuum tube based amplifiers.
They tend to do so more gracefully and organically. They naturally compress a signal rather than just going straight from signal to square wave.
Vacuum tube stuff is closely related to the physics in RF (radio frequency) stuff. Take a look at the old books on the technology. It's intense stuff.
Companies still do make tube-based audio equipment for precisely the performance qualities they exhibit. Not only guitar amplifiers and audio-phile equipment, also studio recording equipment and sound test equipment as well as high-power amplification equipment (radio, radar, microwave transmission)
consumer tubes used to have a bad reputation, but mil-spec (military grade) tubes last a long time and do their jobs well.
If you can't hear the difference, I can understand with a stereo, but ask any musician, they know and will tell you. They generally do sound better but not always. Every component matters. Certain capacitor materials, wire guages, wood used in cabinets, etc...
it all matters.
Much like choosing the right library for a parser.
···
On Apr 4, 2007, at 11:46 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
John Joyce wrote:
hmm.
not to mention, vacuum tubes are extremely good for amplifying circuits.
still used in high powered radar.
And there are still audiophiles who will not use transistor-based sound equipment because they can actually hear the difference. As a matter of fact, there used to be a company that made a frightfully expensive vacuum-tube-based synthesizer for similar reasons.
Thanks for the additional info
I have this ambition of one day knowing every coding language ever devised... only about 7500 of them to go >;p
Ellie
Eleanor McHugh
Games With Brains
···
On 4 Apr 2007, at 18:22, I. P. wrote:
>Eleanor McHugh|
Lyapas
> Well that's one of the least-informative googles I've ever performed.
> Not even an "Hello World"...
Well at least I've learned that "l'yapas" in Ukrainian means "slap on
the face".
LYAPAS was created in 1967 by Belarusian scientist Arkadiy Zakrevsky
for describing IC later proceeded by CAD software (automating tracing
tasks). Language itself was given informally and contained about 400
commands. In a few years it was replaced by LYAPAS-M.
"M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@cesmail.net> writes:
John Joyce wrote:
hmm.
not to mention, vacuum tubes are extremely good for amplifying circuits.
still used in high powered radar.
And there are still audiophiles who will not use transistor-based
sound equipment because they can actually hear the difference. As a
matter of fact, there used to be a company that made a frightfully
expensive vacuum-tube-based synthesizer for similar reasons.
But my tube-based FLAC player needs so long to boot...
···
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC(P)
There is more than "hearing" alone. It has to do with the way signals clip in vacuum tube based amplifiers.
They tend to do so more gracefully and organically. They naturally compress a signal rather than just going straight from signal to square wave.
Vacuum tube stuff is closely related to the physics in RF (radio frequency) stuff. Take a look at the old books on the technology. It's intense stuff.
Companies still do make tube-based audio equipment for precisely the performance qualities they exhibit. Not only guitar amplifiers and audio-phile equipment, also studio recording equipment and sound test equipment as well as high-power amplification equipment (radio, radar, microwave transmission)
consumer tubes used to have a bad reputation, but mil-spec (military grade) tubes last a long time and do their jobs well.
If you can't hear the difference, I can understand with a stereo, but ask any musician, they know and will tell you. They generally do sound better but not always. Every component matters. Certain capacitor materials, wire guages, wood used in cabinets, etc...
it all matters.
Much like choosing the right library for a parser.
Yes ... to a professional musician/audio engineer ... who has been careful not to damage his ears with high decibel levels ... below a certain age ... in the absence of disease ... etc. It *used* to matter to me.
On 4 Apr 2007, at 15:48, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Go to Addall.com and do an out-of-print book search for it. The publisher is Academic Press. I actually have a copy of it, but I don't remember where it is at the moment. It's a collector's item.
I'll have to pick up a copy next time I have time for some light reading. The mentions of it being similar to APL are intriguing - that's one of the few languages I've met that I've not been able to get into.
Ellie
Eleanor McHugh
Games With Brains
----
raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds_to? :reason
It is similar to APL in two ways:
1. It is almost unreadable
2. There are operations that deal with whole arrays
To me, Report Program Generator (RPG) made more sense.
