dear developer,
i am a php and perl developer, well i just started developing on
ruby i like the language since its nice small and easy to read. but
what ruby needs is something like PHP’s PEAR or Perl’s CPAN.
I would rather go for the pear kinda system. since PEAR has aranged all
the modules and the software design is very good.
i am ready to lay the ground work for it i call CRAN just like the CPAN
or till we can get a better name, i need some one to give me space or a CVS Access
to some server
the project will use XML and some NET Libs
some one should really start organizing the modules like those in PEAR
since it becomes easier to locate and find new modules this comes really
handy for newbies
dear developer,
i am a php and perl developer, well i just started developing on
ruby i like the language since its nice small and easy to read. but
what ruby needs is something like PHP’s PEAR or Perl’s CPAN.
I would rather go for the pear kinda system. since PEAR has aranged all
the modules and the software design is very good.
i am ready to lay the ground work for it i call CRAN just like the CPAN
I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
sounds like a Perl imitation reflex. (I know there’s CTAN too, but it
still sounds Perl-derived to me.)
or till we can get a better name, i need some one to give me space
or a CVS Access to some server the project will use XML and some NET
Libs
some one should really start organizing the modules like those in PEAR
since it becomes easier to locate and find new modules this comes really
handy for newbies
Whatever one thinks of RAA’s layout and/or scalability, it seems to me
rather unfair to paint a picture of the situation that suggests that
no one has every organized Ruby modules.
In any case, this has been the subject of a lot of discussion and work
in the last year or so. I wish it were the case that it has all
coalesced completely, but even though it hasn’t, given the amount of
activity in this area (rpkg, rubynet, the talk of CPAN taking on Ruby
material, all of the raa.succ discussions and presentations, etc.,
etc.) you might want to see what’s already going on and contribute to
an existing initiative, rather than start (yet) again.
dear developer,
i am a php and perl developer, well i just started developing on
ruby i like the language since its nice small and easy to read. but
what ruby needs is something like PHP’s PEAR or Perl’s CPAN.
I would rather go for the pear kinda system. since PEAR has aranged all
the modules and the software design is very good.
i am ready to lay the ground work for it i call CRAN just like the CPAN
or till we can get a better name, i need some one to give me space or a CVS Access
to some server
the project will use XML and some NET Libs
some one should really start organizing the modules like those in PEAR
since it becomes easier to locate and find new modules this comes really
handy for newbies
I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
sounds like a Perl imitation reflex. (I know there’s CTAN too, but it
still sounds Perl-derived to me.)
CTAN preceded CPAN by… half a decade or more, did it not?
some one should really start organizing the modules like those in PEAR
since it becomes easier to locate and find new modules this comes really
handy for newbies
I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
sounds like a Perl imitation reflex. (I know there’s CTAN too, but it
still sounds Perl-derived to me.)
CTAN preceded CPAN by… half a decade or more, did it not?
The “it” in my last sentence was meant to refer to “CRAN” – i.e.,
even though CPAN is not the only C?AN around, I still get the strong
feeling that the idea of calling a Ruby archive CRAN comes directly
from CPAN. (I don’t think CTAN is a Perl imitation
some one should really start organizing the modules like those in PEAR
since it becomes easier to locate and find new modules this comes really
handy for newbies
I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
sounds like a Perl imitation reflex. (I know there’s CTAN too, but it
still sounds Perl-derived to me.)
CTAN preceded CPAN by… half a decade or more, did it not?
The “it” in my last sentence was meant to refer to “CRAN” – i.e.,
even though CPAN is not the only C?AN around, I still get the strong
feeling that the idea of calling a Ruby archive CRAN comes directly
from CPAN. (I don’t think CTAN is a Perl imitation
David
Just a thought: why not copy CPAN? It’s pretty good, isn’t it?
I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
sounds like a Perl imitation reflex. (I know there’s CTAN too, but it
still sounds Perl-derived to me.)
CTAN preceded CPAN by… half a decade or more, did it not?
The “it” in my last sentence was meant to refer to “CRAN” – i.e.,
even though CPAN is not the only C?AN around, I still get the strong
feeling that the idea of calling a Ruby archive CRAN comes directly
from CPAN. (I don’t think CTAN is a Perl imitation
I’m sure there are better names than CRAN, but there are worse names
too (think CRAP … we don’t want this, do we?) Maybe something which
has to do with mining etc? Rubymine?
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Mike Campbell wrote:
–
Giuseppe “Oblomov” Bilotta
“E la storia dell’umanità, babbo?”
“Ma niente: prima si fanno delle cazzate,
poi si studia che cazzate si sono fatte”
(Altan)
(“And what about the history of the human race, dad?”
“Oh, nothing special: first they make some foolish things,
then you study which foolish things have been made”)
I think almost anything is a better name than CRAN, as that (to me)
sounds like a Perl imitation reflex. (I know there’s CTAN too, but it
still sounds Perl-derived to me.)
CTAN preceded CPAN by… half a decade or more, did it not?
The “it” in my last sentence was meant to refer to “CRAN” – i.e.,
even though CPAN is not the only C?AN around, I still get the strong
feeling that the idea of calling a Ruby archive CRAN comes directly
from CPAN. (I don’t think CTAN is a Perl imitation
David
[snip]
Hows the name RubyX3… which means Ruby-Cube like the puzzle
How did i think of the name?
the rubixcube is formed of many other small cubes that comes together
to form a bigger cube and all of them are connected to just one connector
i want this software to be that connector which brings together all other
ruby modules, plus it also has the name ruby
Then why the X in it?
well the name RubyX3 just sounds catchy and looks better
and help ppl for tinking it is Ruby Version 3
Well, if you really want to be “trendy”, I think we should call the
current Ruby as Ruby version 7.0 or 8.0 at least…
(You know, SunOS 2.6 == Solaris 6, SunOS 2.7 == Solaris 7, etc. So Ruby
version 1.6.7 == Ruby 6, Ruby version 1.7.x == Ruby 7, etc.)
Not to be a pedant here, but the Solaris name is more than a mapping of OS to
name; Solaris “X” was given to the bundle of things like the OS version,
window manager version, and a number of other things.
While SunOS 2.7 was IN Solaris 7, it can’t be said the 2 are “equal” (nor even
“==”).
Just a thought: why not copy CPAN? It’s pretty good, isn’t it?
This is my thought too. It’s not like Ruby hasn’t copied a lot of
things from perl already, and perl did NOT “invent” the /C.AN/
acronym.
No one has claimed it did. In any case, I’m not sold on the “already
copied a lot” argument… I think the real question is whether or
not “Comprehensive Ruby Archive Network” is a good name for raa.succ.
It doesn’t do much for me personally, even leaving aside the
shadow-of-Perl issue.
Just a thought: why not copy CPAN? It’s pretty good, isn’t it?
This is my thought too. It’s not like Ruby hasn’t copied a lot of things from
perl already, and perl did NOT “invent” the /C.AN/ acronym.
–
Dossy Shiobara mail: dossy@panoptic.com
Panoptic Computer Network web: http://www.panoptic.com/
“He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
folly – then you can let go and quickly move on.” (p. 70)
I have always favored the name “Ruby Archive” – it’s concise, easy
to pronounce (as is the abbr. “RA”). It’s derivative of our current
RAA, yet more accurate, as not everything in the RAA is an application
(nor perhaps even half).
No one has claimed it did. In any case, I’m not sold on the “already
copied a lot” argument… I think the real question is whether or
not “Comprehensive Ruby Archive Network” is a good name for raa.succ.
It doesn’t do much for me personally, even leaving aside the
shadow-of-Perl issue.
OK, OK, I agree with you. One problem with ASCII-based text like this is
I don’t know how to create that equal sign which is “wiggling” (which
denotes “approximately” in mathematics notation), nor even how to create
the “subset” notation (which is the “U” character rotated by -90
degrees). The use of ‘~’ probably will make everyone to think about the
bitwise negation.
Regards,
Bill
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Mike Campbell michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com wrote:
Not to be a pedant here, but the Solaris name is more than a mapping of OS to
name; Solaris “X” was given to the bundle of things like the OS version,
window manager version, and a number of other things.
While SunOS 2.7 was IN Solaris 7, it can’t be said the 2 are “equal” (nor even
“==”).
OK, OK, I agree with you. One problem with ASCII-based text like this is
I don’t know how to create that equal sign which is “wiggling” (which
denotes “approximately” in mathematics notation), nor even how to create
the “subset” notation (which is the “U” character rotated by -90
degrees). The use of ‘~’ probably will make everyone to think about the
bitwise negation.
Regards,
Bill
On the contrary, I think nearly everybody would think “approximately” when they
see “~” next to a number. It wouldn’t even occur to me to think of it as some
crummy bitwise operation. I’m a person, not a C compiler!
Regarding set operations, sometimes you have to make do with words…
