Ruby1.9 and the retry keyword

Hi

It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
restart a running iteration from the beginning.

Is there a way to achieve the old behavior, preferably in a 1.8 compatible
way ?

$ ruby1.8 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'
ruby 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72) [i486-linux]
bla
bla
bla
^C

$ ruby1.9 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'
ruby 1.9.2dev (2009-04-19) [i686-linux]
-e:1: Invalid retry
-e: compile error (SyntaxError)

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Yoann

It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
restart a running iteration from the beginning.

This cannot be, "retry" works in 1.9.1:

[robert@ora01 ~]$ irb19
irb(main):001:0> i = 5
=> 5
irb(main):002:0> begin
irb(main):003:1* puts i
irb(main):004:1> raise "foo"
irb(main):005:1> rescue Exception
irb(main):006:1> i -= 1
irb(main):007:1> retry if i > 0
irb(main):008:1> end
5
4
3
2
1
=> nil
irb(main):009:0> RUBY_VERSION
=> "1.9.1"
irb(main):010:0>

Is there a way to achieve the old behavior, preferably in a 1.8 compatible
way ?

$ ruby1.8 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'
ruby 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72) [i486-linux]
bla
^C

"retry" without "rescue" seems pointless to me. As far as I can see "retry"'s main purpose is repetition in case of exceptions. The use that you demonstrate looks like a untypical and probably unwanted idiom which accidentally happened to work in 1.8.* to me.

$ ruby1.9 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'
ruby 1.9.2dev (2009-04-19) [i686-linux]
-e:1: Invalid retry
-e: compile error (SyntaxError)

Apparently the _syntax_ was changed to allow "retry" only in "rescue" clauses - which makes perfectly sense for me. I am not the definitive source but to me it looks like 1.9 fixes a misbehavior of 1.8 - if that's the case I would not want to reintroduce this just to make 1.9 more compatible to 1.8. In fact, 1.9 purposefully *does* have some incompatibilities.

Kind regards

  robert

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On 19.04.2009 16:20, Yoann Guillot wrote:

It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
restart a running iteration from the beginning.

Are you sure you don't want to use 'redo'?

$ ruby -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; redo }'
ruby 1.9.1p0 (2009-01-30 revision 21907) [i386-cygwin]
bla
bla
...

It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
restart a running iteration from the beginning.

As Robert said, it's no longer supported in iteration. It still works in a rescue clause.

Is there a way to achieve the old behavior, preferably in a 1.8 compatible way ?

You bet.

$ ruby1.8 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'

loop do
   puts "bla"
end

James Edward Gray II

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On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Yoann Guillot wrote:

That mimics the example (where the retry is unconditional), but
clearly isn't a general solution; If "redo" works on 1.9 (which is
similar to retry, but different in conditions not relevant to the
question), that may be the answer.

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Yoann Guillot wrote:

It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
restart a running iteration from the beginning.

As Robert said, it's no longer supported in iteration. It still works in a
rescue clause.

Is there a way to achieve the old behavior, preferably in a 1.8 compatible
way ?

You bet.

$ ruby1.8 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'

loop do
puts "bla"
end

> It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
> restart a running iteration from the beginning.

Are you sure you don't want to use 'redo'?

$ ruby -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; redo }'
ruby 1.9.1p0 (2009-01-30 revision 21907) [i386-cygwin]
bla
bla
...

redo reruns the current iteration, retry restarted the whole iteration

[1, 2].each { |i| puts i ; redo if i == 2 }

1 2 2 2 2 2 2

[1, 2].each { |i| puts i ; retry if i == 2 }

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 01:41:05AM +0900, Leo wrote:

1 2 1 2 1 2 1

--
Yoann

I'll be surprised if more complex examples can't be similarly converted fairly easily. That was kind of my point. I meant the code to say, take a step back and think what is this trying to do…

James Edward Gray II

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On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Christopher Dicely wrote:

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, James Gray > <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Yoann Guillot wrote:

Is there a way to achieve the old behavior, preferably in a 1.8 compatible
way ?

You bet.

$ ruby1.8 -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; retry }'

loop do
puts "bla"
end

That mimics the example (where the retry is unconditional), but
clearly isn't a general solution;

$ ruby_dev -ve '[1, 2].cycle { |i| puts i }'
ruby 1.9.2dev (2009-04-13) [i386-darwin9.6.0]
1
2
1
2
1
2
1
2
-e:1:in `write': Interrupt
  from -e:1:in `puts'
  from -e:1:in `block in <main>'
  from -e:1:in `cycle'
  from -e:1:in `<main>'

James Edward Gray II

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On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Yoann Guillot wrote:

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 01:41:05AM +0900, Leo wrote:

It seems that the 'retry' keyword is not supported anymore in ruby1.9 to
restart a running iteration from the beginning.

Are you sure you don't want to use 'redo'?

$ ruby -ve '[1, 2].each { puts "bla" ; redo }'
ruby 1.9.1p0 (2009-01-30 revision 21907) [i386-cygwin]
bla
...

redo reruns the current iteration, retry restarted the whole iteration

[1, 2].each { |i| puts i ; redo if i == 2 }

1 2 2 2 2 2 2

[1, 2].each { |i| puts i ; retry if i == 2 }

1 2 1 2 1 2 1

My code walks an array, and may change the current element, which is allowed
without breaking the iteration.

I have also a special case where i have to change a whole subsection of the
array, this was the case where i used 'retry'

eg
ary.each { |e|
  case e
  when foo
    ary[ary.index(e)] = foo(e)
  when bar
  when ...
  when baz
    ary[ary.index(e), 12] = [flublu]
    retry
  end
}

Sure, i could use map or many other ways, my code is quite ugly anyway.
I was just surprised by the change of behavior.

I don't see the point in removing capabilities from the language (restarting
an iteration from within), but I can sure live with it.

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 02:10:33AM +0900, James Gray wrote:

On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Christopher Dicely wrote:

That mimics the example (where the retry is unconditional), but
clearly isn't a general solution;

I'll be surprised if more complex examples can't be similarly converted
fairly easily. That was kind of my point. I meant the code to say, take
a step back and think what is this trying to do?

--
Yoann

My code walks an array, and may change the current element, which is allowed without breaking the iteration.

I have also a special case where i have to change a whole subsection of the array, this was the case where i used 'retry'

eg
ary.each { |e|
  case e
  when foo
    ary[ary.index(e)] = foo(e)
  when bar
  when ...
  when baz
    ary[ary.index(e), 12] = [flublu]
    retry
  end
}

Sure, i could use map or many other ways, my code is quite ugly anyway.

Yeah, for a case like this, I would probably just resort to tracking an index in a variable and using a boring while loop. 90% of the time it's wrong to track your own index in Ruby, but I think you're squarely in the special 10% here.

Really, you should already be using each_with_index() above because your repeated calls to index() are inefficient for big data sets (rewalking possibly large portions of the Array) and they break if the data set contains duplicate entries.

Plus, I'm just not comfortable relying on the iterators to do the right thing while I edit the collection out from underneath them. Obviously it was working for you, but I'm not confident enough to trust it under all cases.

I don't see the point in removing capabilities from the language (restarting an iteration from within), but I can sure live with it.

It was done because retry had some nasty side effects and was causing performance issues:

http://markmail.org/message/laisvqelyjmgh56p#query:ruby%20core%20retry%20remove+page:1+mid:fxoxlphjdndatp4m+state:results

James Edward Gray II

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On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Yoann Guillot wrote:

You could do this I guess:

ary = [:foo, :bar, :baz, :foo]

def foo(e)
  :bom
end

class Retry < StandardError
end

begin
  ary.each { |e|
    case e
    when :foo
      ary[ary.index(e)] = foo(e)
    when :bom
      ary[ary.index(e)] = :foobom # to show retry
    when :baz
      ary[ary.index(e), 12] = [:flublu]
      raise Retry
    end
  }
rescue Retry
  retry
end
p ary
__END__
[:foobom, :bar, :flublu]

but as you point out, this is not restarting the iteration from within.

Regards,
Sean

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Yoann Guillot <john-rubytalk@ofjj.net> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 02:10:33AM +0900, James Gray wrote:

On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Christopher Dicely wrote:

That mimics the example (where the retry is unconditional), but
clearly isn't a general solution;

I'll be surprised if more complex examples can't be similarly converted
fairly easily. That was kind of my point. I meant the code to say, take
a step back and think what is this trying to do?

My code walks an array, and may change the current element, which is allowed
without breaking the iteration.

I have also a special case where i have to change a whole subsection of the
array, this was the case where i used 'retry'

eg
ary.each { |e|
case e
when foo
ary[ary.index(e)] = foo(e)
when bar
when ...
when baz
ary[ary.index(e), 12] = [flublu]
retry
end
}

Sure, i could use map or many other ways, my code is quite ugly anyway.
I was just surprised by the change of behavior.

I don't see the point in removing capabilities from the language (restarting
an iteration from within), but I can sure live with it.

--
Yoann

Or using throw/catch. You can also factor out the pattern, for example:

def retryable
  loop do
    catch(:retry) do
      yield
      return
    end
  end
end

ary = [:foo, :bar, :baz, :foo]

def foo(e)
  :bom
end

retryable do
  ary.each { |e|
    case e
    when :foo
      ary[ary.index(e)] = foo(e)
    when :bom
      ary[ary.index(e)] = :foobom # to show retry
    when :baz
      ary[ary.index(e), 12] = [:flublu]
      throw :retry
    end
  }
end
p ary
__END__
[:foobom, :bar, :flublu]

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