Hi,
i've been working with ruby a long time now, and i love the language;
but i feel like i don't really know EVERY little thing there is to know
about it..
i read "Programming Ruby - The Pragramtic Programmers Guide" which was
really a nice read, but ... is there something out there that will
really get down to knitty details?
i've heard about pickaxe, is that worth the read? any other titles you
guys can offer?
tia
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Shai Rosenfeld wrote:
Hi,
i've been working with ruby a long time now, and i love the language;
but i feel like i don't really know EVERY little thing there is to know
about it..
i read "Programming Ruby - The Pragramtic Programmers Guide" which was
really a nice read, but ... is there something out there that will
really get down to knitty details?i've heard about pickaxe, is that worth the read? any other titles you
guys can offer?tia
Look at the cover of your "Pragmatic Programmers' Guide." See the pickaxe?
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I've heard about pickaxe, is that worth the read? any other titles you
guys can offer?
Pickaxe is very good as a reference book. Second version in bookstores, first version available for free online somewhere.
There's also a lot of information buried between the cartoons in _why's poignant guide.
A few people on this list have made available pdf books which are quite good also. I'm guessing they'll let you know who they are 
Cheers,
Dave
In case Tim's comment was too subtle, I'll be more direct:
"The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid Trilogy"
of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).
I hear good things about "The Ruby Way", though I haven't read it myself
(yet). You might consider looking into that as a next book.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 08:01:54PM +0900, Shai Rosenfeld wrote:
Hi,
i've been working with ruby a long time now, and i love the language;
but i feel like i don't really know EVERY little thing there is to know
about it..
i read "Programming Ruby - The Pragramtic Programmers Guide" which was
really a nice read, but ... is there something out there that will
really get down to knitty details?i've heard about pickaxe, is that worth the read? any other titles you
guys can offer?
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Hi,
i've been working with ruby a long time now, and i love the language;
but i feel like i don't really know EVERY little thing there is to know
about it..
i read "Programming Ruby - The Pragramtic Programmers Guide" which was
really a nice read, but ... is there something out there that will
really get down to knitty details?i've heard about pickaxe, is that worth the read? any other titles you
guys can offer?
Well I somehow took the same path, but what really made me advance
<ducking> was this list, which needs some time, and ah yes study this,
it is one of my favorits:
http://www.rubyquiz.com/
Than there are incredible blogs around, I just think about James' and
Rick's but there are many more.
Sometimes reading the source helps too 
...
HTH (a little ).
Robert
On 7/17/07, Shai Rosenfeld <shaiguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
tia
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Chad Perrin wrote:
"The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid
Trilogy"
of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).
;( nice to know ... i'll check into 'the ruby way'; .. what issues does
this book cover?
Robert Dober wrote:
guys can offer?
Well I somehow took the same path, but what really made me advance
<ducking> was this list, which needs some time,
(no doubt)
it is one of my favorits:
http://www.rubyquiz.com/
seems nice ... i'll definately check into this (already rss'ed)
Than there are incredible blogs around, I just think about James' and
Rick's but there are many more.
does anyone have a list of specific addresses for the main best blogs
around?
Sometimes reading the source helps too
definitely so
...thing is i was hoping to get some pdf / book / reading material that
is readable with no computer; i got some spare time offline that i was
hoping to use to get something printed that i could dig into..
On 7/17/07, Shai Rosenfeld <shaiguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
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<snippz0r>
In case Tim's comment was too subtle, I'll be more direct:
"The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid Trilogy"
of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).I hear good things about "The Ruby Way", though I haven't read it myself
(yet). You might consider looking into that as a next book.
But avoid buying it (at first). Safari Books Online has the entire text, so if you dont mind reading things online, you can wander around to find an account you can use. Often times colleges (ie Dartmouth) have trust relationships with the site, so if you have a Dartmouth IP, you are automatically logged in and can read the entire book online.
aRi
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then you're just wasting space.
On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
The Ruby Way covers a lot of different topics, A LOT. Some are more in depth than others, but that depends. It is pretty good as almost a cookbook or a how-to book to get you started on a lot of different things.
A lot of new Ruby books are coming out every month this year almost.
Check out the web sites of SitePoint, Apress, Manning, Developer's Library (SAMS), O'Reilly, and Pragmatic Programmers.
Or just find all of it at Amazon. There are many topics that are still not deeply covered by books, but can be translated from Perl pretty easily sometimes. The good news is that most Ruby books are exceptionally high quality, and usually also available as eBooks at a discounted price.
John Joyce
On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:44 AM, Shai Rosenfeld wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
"The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid
Trilogy"
of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).;( nice to know ... i'll check into 'the ruby way'; .. what issues does
this book cover?
_why's repository is at code.whytheluckystiff.net .
Print out a few programs from there. There's no better way to learn
Ruby internals.
eigenclass is a great in-depth ruby blog.
Aur
On 7/17/07, Shai Rosenfeld <shaiguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
>"The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
>pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
>called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid
>Trilogy"
>of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).;( nice to know ... i'll check into 'the ruby way'; .. what issues does
this book cover?Robert Dober wrote:
> On 7/17/07, Shai Rosenfeld <shaiguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> guys can offer?
> Well I somehow took the same path, but what really made me advance
> <ducking> was this list, which needs some time,(no doubt)
> it is one of my favorits:
> http://www.rubyquiz.com/seems nice ... i'll definately check into this (already rss'ed)
> Than there are incredible blogs around, I just think about James' and
> Rick's but there are many more.does anyone have a list of specific addresses for the main best blogs
around?> Sometimes reading the source helps too
definitely so
...thing is i was hoping to get some pdf / book / reading material that
is readable with no computer; i got some spare time offline that i was
hoping to use to get something printed that i could dig into..
If you want to have a Rails based Ruby tutorial--
i.e. showing you how to exploit ruby features from withing
the Rails framework (as well as very good ruby coverage) you
might look at "Ruby for Rails" by David Black/Manning pub.
David Hansson did the forward....
Seems to cover many things not well explored in some of the
tutorials
cj:)
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From: Ari Brown [mailto:ari@aribrown.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:41 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: ruby tutorial
On Jul 17, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
<snippz0r>
In case Tim's comment was too subtle, I'll be more direct:
"The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid
Trilogy"
of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).I hear good things about "The Ruby Way", though I haven't read it
myself
(yet). You might consider looking into that as a next book.
But avoid buying it (at first). Safari Books Online has the entire
text, so if you dont mind reading things online, you can wander
around to find an account you can use. Often times colleges (ie
Dartmouth) have trust relationships with the site, so if you have a
Dartmouth IP, you are automatically logged in and can read the entire
book online.
aRi
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If you're not living on the edge,
then you're just wasting space.
Indeed an excellent book, but needs to be updated badly.
Probably has one of the first good explanations of Ruby symbols, but recent book Beginning Ruby does it well too.
On Jul 17, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Craig Johnson wrote:
If you want to have a Rails based Ruby tutorial--
i.e. showing you how to exploit ruby features from withing
the Rails framework (as well as very good ruby coverage) you
might look at "Ruby for Rails" by David Black/Manning pub.David Hansson did the forward....
Seems to cover many things not well explored in some of the
tutorials
Like most folks, I'm learning Ruby and Rails at the same time. I have bought
the programming ruby and the agile web dev with Rails in PDF format, and the
Ruby way (2nd edition) in paper book.
Matz's forward to the 2nd edition says the book tries to explain the way of
Ruby programming (Not just 'how it works' to my understanding). As I did a
glimpse through the book, there are tons of examples, tons.
I am a slow reader (and still adapting Dvorak in the mean time). So I am
reading 2 PDF books. As I found something needs practice or more explanation
(like regular expression to me), I go to find the section in Ruby Way.
2007/7/17, Craig Johnson <cjsiam@msn.com>:
If you want to have a Rails based Ruby tutorial--
i.e. showing you how to exploit ruby features from withing
the Rails framework (as well as very good ruby coverage) you
might look at "Ruby for Rails" by David Black/Manning pub.David Hansson did the forward....
Seems to cover many things not well explored in some of the
tutorialscj:)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ari Brown [mailto:ari@aribrown.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:41 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: ruby tutorialOn Jul 17, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
<snippz0r>
>
> In case Tim's comment was too subtle, I'll be more direct:
>
> "The Pickaxe" is the nickname for "Programming Ruby", because of the
> pickaxe on the cover. It's similar to the way many O'Reilly books are
> called by the name of the animal on the cover, like the "Camelid
> Trilogy"
> of Perl books (the Llama, the Alpaca, and the Camel).
>
> I hear good things about "The Ruby Way", though I haven't read it
> myself
> (yet). You might consider looking into that as a next book.But avoid buying it (at first). Safari Books Online has the entire
text, so if you dont mind reading things online, you can wander
around to find an account you can use. Often times colleges (ie
Dartmouth) have trust relationships with the site, so if you have a
Dartmouth IP, you are automatically logged in and can read the entire
book online.aRi
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then you're just wasting space.
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On 7/18/07, yudi <yudi.xue@gmail.com> wrote:
Like most folks, I'm learning Ruby and Rails at the same time. I have bought
I am a slow reader (and still adapting Dvorak in the mean time). So I am
THAT has got to HURT.... All three at once? You are a glutton for
punishment
Regards
Mikel