Hi!
I’ve a question. Probably I will be a web programmer. They want me to
program in php. How can I (can I) get them to use ruby instead of php?
I just cannot tell them: “because ruby is more OO”, they don’t know
about programming…
So any ideas, links?
thx in advance
Gergo
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I’ve a question. Probably I will be a web programmer. They want me to
program in php. How can I (can I) get them to use ruby instead of php?
I just cannot tell them: “because ruby is more OO”, they don’t know
about programming…
So any ideas, links?
If it is a large project, Ruby offers increased productivity because it
reduces code complexity.
If the project needs wide deployment on off-the-shelf ISP’s, PHP is readily
available, Ruby is not.
Mikkel
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I’ve a question. Probably I will be a web programmer. They want me to
program in php. How can I (can I) get them to use ruby instead of php?
I just cannot tell them: “because ruby is more OO”, they don’t know
about programming…
So any ideas, links?
If it is a large project, Ruby offers increased productivity because it
reduces code complexity.
If the project needs wide deployment on off-the-shelf ISP’s, PHP is readily
available, Ruby is not.
Mikkel
FWIW, my impression is the same, Ruby may be more of a promise
as yet, than a solution to some web-programming problems (especially
for ISPs who are under pressure and care more about quick profit
and low risk than nice code). Also agree with Mikkel on the code
size thing: the bigger the project, the better Ruby may suit it than PHP.
So, Ruby necessasrily means higher risk to any manager, in terms
of unexpected problems (perhaps related to unusal server configuration,
performance requirements, whatever), simply because PHP has been
tested and pressed harder in the web business than Ruby. Also, if
you get hit by a bus tomorrow, they won’t easily find anybody to
finish/maintain your Ruby code. But even bus drivers can do PHP
today. Also, a lot of ready-made frameworks, toolkits, docs. etc.
are available for PHP. Much more than for Ruby.
But you could still try convincing them that you (better yet: the
task itself) should decide which language to use… Well, then you
can enjoy having the full responsibility, too… 
Good luck,
Sab
But you could still try convincing them that you (better yet: the
task itself) should decide which language to use… Well, then you
can enjoy having the full responsibility, too…
That’s why I’m a bit afraiding asking it…
But are there any (brave) programmers, who produce some libraries for
the ruby community as a side-effect to completing their web-project?
Well, it will be nice, but it is risky…
But worst-case you, Szabolcs can continue my work, since you live in
Hungary also, dont’ you? 
±[Kontra, Gergely @ Budapest University of Technology and Economics]-+
Email: kgergely@mcl.hu, kgergely@turul.eet.bme.hu |
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±------“Olyan langesz vagyok, hogy poroltoval kellene jarnom!”-------+
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Magyar php mirror es magyar php dokumentacio: http://hu.php.net
But you could still try convincing them that you (better yet: the
task itself) should decide which language to use… Well, then you
can enjoy having the full responsibility, too…
That’s why I’m a bit afraiding asking it…
But are there any (brave) programmers, who produce some libraries for
the ruby community as a side-effect to completing their web-project?
Well, it will be nice, but it is risky…
But worst-case you, Szabolcs can continue my work, since you live in
Hungary also, dont’ you?
:)) Umm… well, yes, but there’s a pretty heavy bus traffic here, too, so
if even I get hit by one, then they really get into some serious trouble!..
Sab