Hi,
I googled for a “ruby presentation for python programmers” (like me 
but
didn’t find - or search correctly - anything relevant. I would like to start
Ruby but
Many thanks by advance for your pointers.
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Gilles
Gilles Lenfant wrote:
Hi,
I googled for a “ruby presentation for python programmers” (like me
but
didn’t find - or search correctly - anything relevant.
I think there is something like this on rubygarden.org – sorry I can’t
be more specific.
Hal
Gilles Lenfant wrote:
Hi,
I googled for a “ruby presentation for python programmers” (like me
didn’t find - or search correctly - anything relevant. I would like to start
Ruby but
Starting with Ruby? Visit www.ruby-doc.org
Many thanks by advance for your pointers.
http://www.ruby-doc.org/index.rb/2003/August/29#RubyEyeForThePythonGuy
http://www.ruby-doc.org/RubyEyeForThePythonGuy.html
James Britt
This is my little attempt:
http://raa.ruby-lang.org/list.rhtml?name=pythontoruby
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“Gilles Lenfant” glenfant-nospam@bigfoot.com wrote:
I googled for a “ruby presentation for python programmers” (like me
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Hal Fulton wrote:
Gilles Lenfant wrote:
Hi,
I googled for a “ruby presentation for python programmers” (like me
didn’t find - or search correctly - anything relevant.I think there is something like this on rubygarden.org – sorry I can’t
be more specific.
Umm, there is also an appendix in The Ruby Way.
The Python appendix was contributed by Guy Hurst.
Hal
I suppose hal means this:
and specifically:
Btw, I suppose that page mostly shows how to do stuff in ruby that you
usually do in python.
And avoids stuff in ruby that you don’t do in python, for this part I
suppose you just need to follow this list enough
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il Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:35:47 +0900, Hal Fulton hal9000@hypermetrics.com ha scritto::
Gilles Lenfant wrote:
Hi,
I googled for a “ruby presentation for python programmers” (like me
didn’t find - or search correctly - anything relevant.I think there is something like this on rubygarden.org – sorry I can’t
be more specific.
Hal Fulton wrote:
Umm, there is also an appendix in The Ruby Way.
I find the said document very helpful, as well as the “From Perl To
Ruby” section, as I dabble in these three languages. Very recommended
reading for Perl/Python programmers.
BTW, the “What’s New In Ruby 1.8” part needs quite serious updating
though. Specifically, it doesn’t mention important modules like YAML and
Ruby/DL, both of which are a god-send for me.
I wonder if there is a plan for a 2nd edition of The Ruby Way.
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The Python appendix was contributed by Guy Hurst.
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dave
David Garamond wrote:
I find the said document very helpful, as well as the “From Perl To
Ruby” section, as I dabble in these three languages. Very recommended
reading for Perl/Python programmers.BTW, the “What’s New In Ruby 1.8” part needs quite serious updating
though. Specifically, it doesn’t mention important modules like YAML and
Ruby/DL, both of which are a god-send for me.
Yes, much of it is out of date. This book was started late in 2000,
and finished in the fall of 2001. It doesn’t mention REXML or any
number of other things.
I wonder if there is a plan for a 2nd edition of The Ruby Way.
There is some discussion of it. But the publisher has this
silly idea of wanting to make money rather than making
altruistic contributions to the computing community.
Seriously, Ruby is not immensely popular yet, and thus has not
been lucrative for the publishers (or authors). This may
change – indeed we’re all counting on Ruby to get popular,
aren’t we?
There’s also the question of whether a second edition should
be timed with 1.9 or with 2.0. I think I can see advantages
and disadvantages both ways.
Hal
Hi Hal,
“Hal Fulton” hal9000@hypermetrics.com wrote in message
Seriously, Ruby is not immensely popular yet, and thus has not
been lucrative for the publishers (or authors).
Is this true in general or you talking of some specific publisher here?
I would imagine that someone like O’Reilly will be willing to take the risk?
They have books on Bioinformatics, which I think has narrower
audience than Ruby. Am I just naive or what ?
This may change – indeed we’re all counting on Ruby to get popular,
aren’t we?
Yes, we are :-). And things may have changed already (again at least
at O’Reily) considering that we now have our own track at OSCON.
There’s also the question of whether a second edition should
be timed with 1.9 or with 2.0.
That depends on how long it will take to go from 1.9 to 2.0. and how
much will change between the two. If it is significant change but coming
within a year or two then we should wait for 2.0.
I think I can see advantages and disadvantages both ways.
Yep.
– shanko
[Shanko:]
There’s also the question of whether a second edition should
be timed with 1.9 or with 2.0.That depends on how long it will take to go from 1.9 to 2.0. and how
much will change between the two. If it is significant change but
coming within a year or two then we should wait for 2.0.
1.6 → 1.8 took a significant time (2+ years?).
1.8 → 2.0 is going to be a much more dramatic change. I’ve made my
conclusions
All existing dead-tree books cover 1.6, but 1.8 is a major advance in the
platform, and will be more and more widely used for the next few years, so
a book on Ruby 1.8 would be very handy.
Gavin
Shashank Date wrote:
Is this true in general or you talking of some specific publisher here?
I would imagine that someone like O’Reilly will be willing to take the risk?
They have books on Bioinformatics, which I think has narrower
audience than Ruby. Am I just naive or what ?
Yes, I’m also surprised that O’Reilly hasn’t put out more Ruby titles.
Especially since they have like 250 Perl books already, from Perl & LWP
to Perl & XML to mod_perl. After all, Ruby is becoming the non-vaporware
version of Perl6 isn’t it?
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dave