Ruby blog software

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions that you might have.

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Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
God bless you.

Lloyd Zusman ha scritto:

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions that you might have.

I guess the biggest players in this arena are Rublog and tDiary.
the former I saw used from many rubyists, the latter has enpowers a big community (tdiary.net) in japan (english docs in the doc/ dir of the tarball pkg)

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

Then again, please don't. :slight_smile: I'm interested in what people have to say about Ruby blogs, too. I'm using moveabletype right now, and although there are things I like about it, there are lots of things I *don't* like about it.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

Ditto. :slight_smile:

Thanks in advance for any suggestions that you might have.

- Jamis

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Jamis Buck
jgb3@email.byu.edu
http://www.jamisbuck.org/jamis

"I use octal until I get to 8, and then I switch to decimal."

I just switched (in the last two days) from tDiary to RubLog. tDiary
is decent, but doesn't have nice English support, and there is little
that seems that can be done to support preventing comment spam.

RubLog doesn't have any comment facilities at all, so ... The bigger
problem with RubLog is that it doesn't have a web-based input
interface, but that may change with the Ruwiki integration converter
that is being worked on. This could also be used to provide a comment
mechanism, but that would take additional work.

-austin

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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 06:01:14 +0900, Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> wrote:

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

--
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               * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
: as of this email, I have [ X ] Gmail invitations

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

My own clWiki has a blog interface for it. I use it here: http://www.clabs.org/blog\. That said, to my knowledge it's not used much anywhere else, so there might be lurking evil for someone else trying to use it. For searching, it requires a DRb index process to be run (technically it doesn't, but the non-DRb is broken right now).

You can leave the wiki freely editable, or configure it to have the editor be secured, so only certain people can edit.

As Wikis go, it's also bizarre, missing some very common features and including some that most popular ones don't have.

So ... to sum up, it works for me, it might even work for you. :slight_smile:

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Chris
http://clabs.org

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions that you might have.

Blogtari is all Ruby, supports textile, markdown, and (to some extent) OOo writer docs as source format, exports rss feeds, and has a modest XML-RPC interface.

It's beta; development has been put aside for a bit while other projects have my attention, but it runs rubyxml.com, ruby-doc.org, jamesbritt.com, among others.

http://www.blogtari.com

James

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

Does Instiki have a blog view? It's been pretty well received, I believe.

Hmmm ... rss feed, maybe could be used effectively for a blog.

Oh, minor deal on using my clWiki for a blog, you can setup a custom tag to determine which articles you'd like to publish in the blog view (defaults to all...)

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Chris
http://clabs.org/blogki

Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:

As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.

Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
exists).

[ ... ]

Wow! I'm happily surprised at how many of you have responded. There
are too many replies for me to thank you individually, so I give my
heartfelt thanks collectively to you all.

I now have a number of promising Ruby blog options to try. Once I have
settled on one of them, I'll write back with my experiences and
feedback.

Again ... thanks!

···

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Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
God bless you.

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I hope I don't come across as a heretic, and I will say up front that I haven't tried any of the ruby blogs.

I looked at a few blogs and balked at the incredible effort that they took to set up and configure. Then somehow I stumbled on blosxom (I think the article in LinuxJournal). It is perl, yes. But from the user's standpoint it is very pragmatic. Each entry is a text file in a directory; you edit things with your favorite text editor. With the easy-to-install Markdown plugin blogging is pure joy.

There's a lot of plugins to add all sorts of functionality but frankly I'm not sure I'm convinced it would scale well to a huge feature-rich blog. I don't want that, though, I wanted something simple and quick and no-hassle, and blosxom was just that and also a breath of fresh air.

Jamis Buck wrote:

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

Then again, please don't. :slight_smile: I'm interested in what people have to say about Ruby blogs, too. I'm using moveabletype right now, and although there are things I like about it, there are lots of things I *don't* like about it.

I'm looking for the typical things: reliability, features, ease of use,
etc.

Aren't we all. :slight_smile:

I only have experience with Rublog really, but I'll share my impressions
of it here.

I don't have a public blog at the moment, by the way, or I'd point you
to it.

There were some minor problems setting up rublog, two-thirds of which
were my own dumb mistakes.

Once I set it up, I had some conceptual problems with it. I was looking
at the .rb file, and I asked Chad: Couldn't this be put in a config file
or something instead?

And he said: The code IS the config file.

And this bothered me at first, but then the light bulb went on. Rublog
gives you a truly rich and powerful set of tools, and lets you use them
more or less as you wish.

The more simple and trivial your blog is, the more you night say: It should
do this for me. I shouldn't have to write this.

But as it scales up, it scales smoothly and easily, and it's all in Ruby,
and life is good. And then you realize: Hey, I bet I could do THIS and it
wouldn't be that hard at all...

Just my impressions.

Hal

same here on both counts.

i wonder if tdairy would run under webrick? anyone out there done it?

-a

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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jamis Buck wrote:

Then again, please don't. :slight_smile: I'm interested in what people have to say about
Ruby blogs, too. I'm using moveabletype right now, and although there are
things I like about it, there are lots of things I *don't* like about it.

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Just to add to the list of example sites, dataspill.org is rublog-based.

Good luck. I know I'm not alone in looking forward to hearing about
your experiences!
wad

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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:26:08 +0900, Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> wrote:

Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:

> As a favor to a friend, I'm setting up a blog for her on my server.
>
> Since I like ruby so much, I'd like to use some ruby-based blog
> software. I see a number of possibilities on RAA for this, and I'm
> wondering if any of you could recommend one or more of these (or perhaps
> something else that's ruby-ish that's not on RAA, if such a thing
> exists).
>
> [ ... ]

Wow! I'm happily surprised at how many of you have responded. There
are too many replies for me to thank you individually, so I give my
heartfelt thanks collectively to you all.

I now have a number of promising Ruby blog options to try. Once I have
settled on one of them, I'll write back with my experiences and
feedback.

Again ... thanks!

Hi,

tDiary is decent, but doesn't have nice English support

Send patch.

and there is little that seems that can be done to support preventing comment spam.

RubLog doesn't have any comment facilities at all, so ...

You can disable tsukkomi in the preferences.

···

--
Laurent

Just for the record, you can use MoveableType styles with Rublog. For example, I'm using a variant of the ModernLines style on my site:

    http://pragmaticautomation.com

Jim Weirich has more example styles with Rublog at:

    http://onestepback.org/index.cgi/General/MoreLooks.rdoc

Mike

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On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Jamis Buck wrote:

Then again, please don't. :slight_smile: I'm interested in what people have to say about Ruby blogs, too. I'm using moveabletype right now, and although there are things I like about it, there are lots of things I *don't* like about it.

Hans Fugal wrote:

Lloyd Zusman wrote:

I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
about this would email me privately.

I hope I don't come across as a heretic, and I will say up front that I haven't tried any of the ruby blogs.

I looked at a few blogs and balked at the incredible effort that they took to set up and configure. Then somehow I stumbled on blosxom (I think the article in LinuxJournal). It is perl, yes. But from the user's standpoint it is very pragmatic. Each entry is a text file in a directory; you edit things with your favorite text editor. With the easy-to-install Markdown plugin blogging is pure joy.

Hans, I'm disappointed in you! Perl?! :wink: No, I'm kidding -- if it works for you, then that's all that matters. I may take a peek at blosxom myself, now that you mention it.

There's a lot of plugins to add all sorts of functionality but frankly I'm not sure I'm convinced it would scale well to a huge feature-rich blog. I don't want that, though, I wanted something simple and quick and no-hassle, and blosxom was just that and also a breath of fresh air.

I prefer textile to markdown, but it sounds like there may already be a plugin for that... I'll take a peek anyway.

Thanks, Hans!

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Jamis Buck
jgb3@email.byu.edu
http://www.jamisbuck.org/jamis

"I use octal until I get to 8, and then I switch to decimal."

This is more or less how RubLog works, except that there's multiple
converters (Markdown, RDoc, HTML, and Text).

-austin

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On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:10:25 +0900, Hans Fugal <hans@fugal.net> wrote:

Lloyd Zusman wrote:
> I don't want to get into a "my blog is better than yours" war on this
> list, so it probably would be best if any of you who have thoughts
> about this would email me privately.
I hope I don't come across as a heretic, and I will say up front that I
haven't tried any of the ruby blogs.

I looked at a few blogs and balked at the incredible effort that they
took to set up and configure. Then somehow I stumbled on blosxom (I
think the article in LinuxJournal). It is perl, yes. But from the user's
standpoint it is very pragmatic. Each entry is a text file in a
directory; you edit things with your favorite text editor. With the
easy-to-install Markdown plugin blogging is pure joy.

--
Austin Ziegler * halostatue@gmail.com
               * Alternate: austin@halostatue.ca
: as of this email, I have [ 6 ] Gmail invitations

Hans Fugal wrote:

I looked at a few blogs and balked at the incredible effort that they took to set up and configure. Then somehow I stumbled on blosxom (I think the article in LinuxJournal). It is perl, yes. But from the user's standpoint it is very pragmatic. Each entry is a text file in a directory; you edit things with your favorite text editor. With the easy-to-install Markdown plugin blogging is pure joy.

You can also look at hobix (http://hobix.com - or - http://rubyforge.org/projects/hobix/\) from our beloved Why the Lucky Stiff..
It also works the way you described, and I added some code to copy generated blog over FTP to my IPS account.
AFAIR you can use RedCloth and BlueCloth to publish ...

Frederick Ros.

Chris Morris <chrismo@clabs.org> writes:

[ ... ]

My own clWiki has a blog interface for it. I use it here:
http://www.clabs.org/blog\. That said, to my knowledge it's not used much
anywhere else, so there might be lurking evil for someone else trying to
use it. For searching, it requires a DRb index process to be run
(technically it doesn't, but the non-DRb is broken right now).

I tried to download your clWiki source code from the location that you
provide on your site: http://www.clabs.org/dl/clwiki/clwiki.1.13.6.zip

However, that's a dead link. I tried the parent URL ("/dl/clwiki") and
the newest one in that directory is the previous version:
http://www.clabs.org/dl/clwiki/clwiki.1.13.5.zip

Is there anywhere I can go to get the 1.13.6 version, or should I just
stick with 1.13.5?

Thanks.

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Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
God bless you.

Hi,
> tDiary is decent, but doesn't have nice English support
Send patch.

If one likes mucking around in the tDiary code. I didn't. I found the
plugins easier to deal with, but too many of them are just *slightly*
problematic. The real issue with tDiary's English support is the level
of documentation available. It's unclear what modes and plugins work
well together.

> and there is little that seems that can be done to support preventing comment spam.
> RubLog doesn't have any comment facilities at all, so ...
You can disable tsukkomi in the preferences.

Not exactly preferred. I *do* want a comment and visitor tracking
system without resorting to email (as I am having to do with RubLog),
but I don't want to have to delete spam comments and tracking from my
diary, either.

-austin

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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:49:08 +0900, Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:
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Mike Clark wrote:

Then again, please don't. :slight_smile: I'm interested in what people have to say about Ruby blogs, too. I'm using moveabletype right now, and although there are things I like about it, there are lots of things I *don't* like about it.

Just for the record, you can use MoveableType styles with Rublog. For example, I'm using a variant of the ModernLines style on my site:

   http://pragmaticautomation.com

Jim Weirich has more example styles with Rublog at:

   http://onestepback.org/index.cgi/General/MoreLooks.rdoc

Mike

Rublog looks tempting, I'll have to admit. I need to give it a try (and Blogtari -- that looked promising, too).

However, here are three of the features that I really would like, and which I didn't see in either of those:

   1) Online composition of articles.

   2) The ability to set an article as a "draft", so it doesn't appear in the published version of the blog. (My wife uses this feature of MoveableType all the time.) This feature only really makes sense when online composotion of articles is available.

   3) Textile support. (Blogtari does this, but I didn't see any RedCloth converter for Rublog.)

I imagine it's not too hard to add new converters to Rublog. (I seem to remember a thread about that not too very long ago...) If I have the time (ha!) I'd like to see about maybe hacking on the other two features, unless someone has already done so.

- Jamis

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On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Jamis Buck wrote:

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http://www.jamisbuck.org/jamis

"I use octal until I get to 8, and then I switch to decimal."