Hi all. I've thought quite a long time bout this, and I hope this is a good way to proceed. Please let us any any present flame wars about religion on this list and simply let them go and keep taking about ruby.
Thanks heaps. If we're going to press reply, I'd recommend we think about our reply and how it helps the people on the list, and especially if it's on-topic.
Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/
Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/
But if we ignore religious discussions how will be able to debate ruby
vs python, K&R vs ANSI?
OO vs functional?
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Julian Leviston <julian@coretech.net.au> wrote:
Hi all. I've thought quite a long time bout this, and I hope this is a good
way to proceed. Please let us any any present flame wars about religion on
this list and simply let them go and keep taking about ruby.Thanks heaps. If we're going to press reply, I'd recommend we think about
our reply and how it helps the people on the list, and especially if it's
on-topic.Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/
Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/
> Hi all. I've thought quite a long time bout this, and I hope this is a good
> way to proceed. Please let us any any present flame wars about religion on
> this list and simply let them go and keep taking about ruby.
>
> Thanks heaps. If we're going to press reply, I'd recommend we think about
> our reply and how it helps the people on the list, and especially if it's
> on-topic.
>
> Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/
> Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/But if we ignore religious discussions how will be able to debate ruby
vs python, K&R vs ANSI?
OO vs functional?
maybe he had in mind that it is not appropriate for this mailing list and
for such high philosophic problems another mailing list should be created
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:12:26AM +0900, Kyle Schmitt wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Julian Leviston <julian@coretech.net.au> wrote:
Hi all. I've thought quite a long time bout this, and I hope this is a good
way to proceed. Please let us any any present flame wars about religion on
this list and simply let them go and keep taking about ruby.Thanks heaps. If we're going to press reply, I'd recommend we think about
our reply and how it helps the people on the list, and especially if it's
on-topic.Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/
Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/But if we ignore religious discussions how will be able to debate ruby
vs python, K&R vs ANSI?
OO vs functional?
emacs vs vi(m)?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Kyle Schmitt <kyleaschmitt@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Julian Leviston <julian@coretech.net.au> wrote:
--
thanks,
-pate
-------------------------
Duty makes us do things, Love make us do things well.
Only the emacs side is religious:
http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
The vi side is a gang:
/me throws the vi gang sign.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:22:39AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
emacs vs vi(m)?
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't
waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will
do."
emacs vs vi(m)?
Only the emacs side is religious:
http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
The vi side is a gang:
/me throws the vi gang sign.
and I know that someday you'll repent.
;^)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:22:39AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't
waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will
do."
--
thanks,
-pate
-------------------------
Duty makes us do things, Love make us do things well.
I'm editor-agnostic. Well, technically, I guess I'm more of an
editor-taoist. Editaoist? Anyway, the upshot is that I can see how your
religious interpretation is a valid perspective on reality, even if it is
kind of limited.
After all, emacs is a halfway decent OS. Some people claim it lacks a
decent editor, but I disagree -- Viper is an excellent editor.
What it *does* lack is a decent bootloader.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:37:54AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:22:39AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
>>
>> emacs vs vi(m)?
>
> Only the emacs side is religious:
>
> http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
>
> The vi side is a gang:
>
> VI GANGSTAS
>
> /me throws the vi gang sign.and I know that someday you'll repent.
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Anonymous: "Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator
of human intelligence."
pat eyler wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:22:39AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
emacs vs vi(m)?
Only the emacs side is religious:
http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
The vi side is a gang:
/me throws the vi gang sign.
and I know that someday you'll repent.
Those of us who have reached nirvana[1] look upon your conflict with tolerance and hope.
--
vjoel : Joel VanderWerf : path berkeley edu : 510 665 3407
I always thought Pico was a great editor.
Also "Git sucks" ...please don't hurt me!! (
http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/\)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 05:37:54AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> > wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:22:39AM +0900, pat eyler wrote:
> >>
> >> emacs vs vi(m)?
> >
> > Only the emacs side is religious:
> >
> > http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
> >
> > The vi side is a gang:
> >
> > VI GANGSTAS
> >
> > /me throws the vi gang sign.
>
> and I know that someday you'll repent.I'm editor-agnostic. Well, technically, I guess I'm more of an
editor-taoist. Editaoist? Anyway, the upshot is that I can see how your
religious interpretation is a valid perspective on reality, even if it is
kind of limited.After all, emacs is a halfway decent OS. Some people claim it lacks a
decent editor, but I disagree -- Viper is an excellent editor.What it *does* lack is a decent bootloader.
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Anonymous: "Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator
of human intelligence."
I'm willing to be convinced, if there's reason for it. What's so great
about NEdit?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +0900, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
Those of us who have reached nirvana[1] look upon your conflict with
tolerance and hope.
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Naguib Mahfouz: "You can tell whether a man is clever by his
answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions."
Ugh. Pico? Seriously?
It's passable.
Thanks for the Git link. It was an interesting read.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 07:27:13AM +0900, dustin b wrote:
I always thought Pico was a great editor.
Also "Git sucks" ...please don't hurt me!! (
http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/\)
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Bill McKibben: "The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have
grown increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to
yield."
Chad Perrin wrote:
Those of us who have reached nirvana[1] look upon your conflict with tolerance and hope.
[1] NEdit - Wikipedia
I'm willing to be convinced, if there's reason for it. What's so great
about NEdit?
Suggest you don't bother. I've looked at a great many editors, and tried many of them. None have bested jEdit
It's flexibility, ease of use, vast world of adaptive plugins simply beats out the competition.
I do all my ruby editing in it, runnng ruby scripts in the console tab, if desired.
Currently I have have 4 separate jEdit windows open, each with a different cluster of files visible (although all are accessible from each instance). When I want to, I can edit, and even play, my Lilypond music score scripts in jEdit (really, really cool). I would jump to another editor in a flash if I ever saw one better, but it simply hasn't happened.
jEdit is a java program, and runs anywhere. I'm running mine on Kubuntu Linux 8.10
Enjoy...
Tom
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +0900, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist
Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226
<< tc@tomcloyd.com >> (email)
<< TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Written in Java, so it runs on Mac OS X, OS/2, Unix, VMS and
Windows.
That's a nonstarter for me. It requires a JVM to be installed anywhere I
use it, and sometimes that's just not reasonable -- i.e., installing and
maintaining a Java runtime on FreeBSD is a severe pain in the tuckus.
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 09:24:08AM +0900, Tom Cloyd wrote:
>
Suggest you don't bother. I've looked at a great many editors, and tried
many of them. None have bested jEdit
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Nat Torkington, on Perl internals: ". . . an interconnected mass
of livers and pancreas and lungs and little sharp pointy things and the
occasional exploding kidney."