Railsy Question about redefining ruby methods

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Please this is a Ruby question, not, at least as the main focus, a rails one, as you'll see if you read all the way through.

Say, I've got a case in Rails where I want all my links to be prepended with something like ~u1/rrsw/thingies so I can see http://host/~u1/rrsw/thingies and http://host/~u2/rrsw/thingies instead of http://host:9001/thingies and http://host:9002/thingies for a rails tool that is used by some n projects. The rails part is apparently not configurable, so I'm looking at redefining rails methods like link_to to stick the path in there. This should be reasonable, but I'm stuck on a ruby problem:

I want to redefine the link_to method so it's seen in its new guise in all the places where it's presently used. It seems to make most sense to put the new redefinition in the module ApplicationHelpers, but I believe that may short circuit the access, as I'm not seeing the example I put in which always puts out a traceable constant, resulting in the expected changes in my test web pages. So, and here is the question:

Can anyone suggest how I should specify an appropriately available method for the correct module inside another module so that it overrides the original in the fashion I desire? I presume this is a simple problem, as it's what people do all the time in OO right? I'm still a little green on these patterns yet I think.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli

Droopy hacker on a Friday Evening...

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Xeno Campanoli wrote:

Please this is a Ruby question, not, at least as the main focus, a rails
one, as you'll see if you read all the way through.

Say, I've got a case in Rails where I want all my links to be prepended
with something like ~u1/rrsw/thingies so I can see
http://host/~u1/rrsw/thingies and http://host/~u2/rrsw/thingies instead
of http://host:9001/thingies and http://host:9002/thingies for a rails
tool that is used by some n projects. The rails part is apparently not
configurable, so I'm looking at redefining rails methods like link_to to
stick the path in there. This should be reasonable, but I'm stuck on a
ruby problem:

You are aware that the port of the URL is not under Rails' nor Ruby's
control per se (it is the domain of the webserver)?

URLs are composed in (roughly) six parts: the
[protocol]://[host]:[port]/[user_directory]/[directory/that/app/uses/or/rewrites]/[document_requested.suffix]

Of those, only the directory and explicit document are under control by
any given web application.

Further, you can only have one server listen on any given port (though,
one server can listen on an unlimited number of ports).

What you want, can be achieved by using Apache + mod_rails.

Uou can get the ~u1/~u2 part, by having different users on a, for
example, UNIX based OS have their own web_root (or web_home, as it can
be called, by convention), which would be reachable as
host/~username/index.html (for example).

Details of implementing such a setup can be found in various ways on,
for example, <http://howtoforge.org>.

As far as overriding a Ruby method: You can usually achieve that by
reopening the class, adding an alias for the old method, and defining
your own implementation. Be careful, though, when you do.

Where to do that so Rails picks up a change to link_to, I do not know (I
suspect it is in ActiveSupport, though).

- --
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Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com

~ - You know you've been hacking too long when...
...your complexion has turned pale from being constantly irradiated by the
monitor.

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Hi --

Please this is a Ruby question, not, at least as the main focus, a rails one, as you'll see if you read all the way through.

Well, if my answer is correct, it's a very Rails-specific question :slight_smile:

Say, I've got a case in Rails where I want all my links to be prepended with something like ~u1/rrsw/thingies so I can see http://host/~u1/rrsw/thingies and http://host/~u2/rrsw/thingies instead of http://host:9001/thingies and http://host:9002/thingies for a rails tool that is used by some n projects. The rails part is apparently not configurable, so I'm looking at redefining rails methods like link_to to stick the path in there. This should be reasonable, but I'm stuck on a ruby problem:

I want to redefine the link_to method so it's seen in its new guise in all the places where it's presently used. It seems to make most sense to put the new redefinition in the module ApplicationHelpers, but I believe that may short circuit the access, as I'm not seeing the example I put in which always puts out a traceable constant, resulting in the expected changes in my test web pages. So, and here is the question:

Can anyone suggest how I should specify an appropriately available method for the correct module inside another module so that it overrides the original in the fashion I desire? I presume this is a simple problem, as it's what people do all the time in OO right? I'm still a little green on these patterns yet I think.

Have a look at relative_url_root, which I believe (though I haven't
used it in a while) does what you want.

David

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Have you looked at the rails routes table?

Xeno Campanoli wrote:

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Please this is a Ruby question, not, at least as the main focus, a rails one, as you'll see if you read all the way through.

Say, I've got a case in Rails where I want all my links to be prepended with something like ~u1/rrsw/thingies so I can see http://host/~u1/rrsw/thingies and http://host/~u2/rrsw/thingies instead of http://host:9001/thingies and http://host:9002/thingies for a rails tool that is used by some n projects. The rails part is apparently not configurable, so I'm looking at redefining rails methods like link_to to stick the path in there. This should be reasonable, but I'm stuck on a ruby problem:

I want to redefine the link_to method so it's seen in its new guise in all the places where it's presently used. It seems to make most sense to put the new redefinition in the module ApplicationHelpers, but I believe that may short circuit the access, as I'm not seeing the example I put in which always puts out a traceable constant, resulting in the expected changes in my test web pages. So, and here is the question:

Can anyone suggest how I should specify an appropriately available method for the correct module inside another module so that it overrides the original in the fashion I desire? I presume this is a simple problem, as it's what people do all the time in OO right? I'm still a little green on these patterns yet I think.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli

Droopy hacker on a Friday Evening...

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Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

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Xeno Campanoli wrote:
> Please this is a Ruby question, not, at least as the main focus, a rails
> one, as you'll see if you read all the way through.
>
> Say, I've got a case in Rails where I want all my links to be prepended
> with something like ~u1/rrsw/thingies so I can see
> http://host/~u1/rrsw/thingies and http://host/~u2/rrsw/thingies instead
> of http://host:9001/thingies and http://host:9002/thingies for a rails
> tool that is used by some n projects. The rails part is apparently not
> configurable, so I'm looking at redefining rails methods like link_to to
> stick the path in there. This should be reasonable, but I'm stuck on a
> ruby problem:

No no no no no no! I have all the other stuff working. I've got UserDir and ProxyPass directives that get all the stuff set up initially need now is to get all the URLs that are presently rendered in the markup as /something to be ~u1/rrsw/something. That is all I need. I have the rest working.

So, thank you for your feedback. It is interesting for other reasons, but what I was asking about was the very thing you said you were unable to answer; nothing more.

Sincerely, Xeno

xc

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from my http://host:n to my http://host/~u1/rrsw like I want. All I

You are aware that the port of the URL is not under Rails' nor Ruby's
control per se (it is the domain of the webserver)?

URLs are composed in (roughly) six parts: the
[protocol]://[host]:[port]/[user_directory]/[directory/that/app/uses/or/rewrites]/[document_requested.suffix]

Of those, only the directory and explicit document are under control by
any given web application.

Further, you can only have one server listen on any given port (though,
one server can listen on an unlimited number of ports).

What you want, can be achieved by using Apache + mod_rails.

Uou can get the ~u1/~u2 part, by having different users on a, for
example, UNIX based OS have their own web_root (or web_home, as it can
be called, by convention), which would be reachable as
host/~username/index.html (for example).

Details of implementing such a setup can be found in various ways on,
for example, <http://howtoforge.org>.

As far as overriding a Ruby method: You can usually achieve that by
reopening the class, adding an alias for the old method, and defining
your own implementation. Be careful, though, when you do.

Where to do that so Rails picks up a change to link_to, I do not know (I
suspect it is in ActiveSupport, though).

- --
Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com

~ - You know you've been hacking too long when...
...your complexion has turned pale from being constantly irradiated by the
monitor.
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David A. Black wrote:

Hi --

Please this is a Ruby question, not, at least as the main focus, a rails one, as you'll see if you read all the way through.

Well, if my answer is correct, it's a very Rails-specific question :slight_smile:

Thank you David. I'll look at this right now, and try to have an answer by tomorrow afternoon, as my evening is about to draw me away.'

Sincerely, Xeno

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On Sat, 24 May 2008, Xeno Campanoli wrote:

Say, I've got a case in Rails where I want all my links to be prepended with something like ~u1/rrsw/thingies so I can see http://host/~u1/rrsw/thingies and http://host/~u2/rrsw/thingies instead of http://host:9001/thingies and http://host:9002/thingies for a rails tool that is used by some n projects. The rails part is apparently not configurable, so I'm looking at redefining rails methods like link_to to stick the path in there. This should be reasonable, but I'm stuck on a ruby problem:

I want to redefine the link_to method so it's seen in its new guise in all the places where it's presently used. It seems to make most sense to put the new redefinition in the module ApplicationHelpers, but I believe that may short circuit the access, as I'm not seeing the example I put in which always puts out a traceable constant, resulting in the expected changes in my test web pages. So, and here is the question:

Can anyone suggest how I should specify an appropriately available method for the correct module inside another module so that it overrides the original in the fashion I desire? I presume this is a simple problem, as it's what people do all the time in OO right? I'm still a little green on these patterns yet I think.

Have a look at relative_url_root, which I believe (though I haven't
used it in a while) does what you want.

David

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David A. Black wrote:

Hi --

I'm cutting this short and just saying that David Black's suggestion works regarding:

Have a look at relative_url_root, which I believe (though I haven't
used it in a while) does what you want.

Since this is a ruby group, and the suggestion is rails, I am going to top off my discussion directly to my two correspondencts.

Thank you.

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On Sat, 24 May 2008, Xeno Campanoli wrote:

David

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Xeno Campanoli wrote:

No no no no no no! I have all the other stuff working. I've got
UserDir and ProxyPass directives that get all the stuff set up initially
from my http://host:n to my http://host/~u1/rrsw like I want. All I
need now is to get all the URLs that are presently rendered in the
markup as /something to be ~u1/rrsw/something. That is all I need. I
have the rest working.

Why? Is the application not working? The webserver is smart enough to
construct the link properly, so that links should Just Work(tm).

And you don't really want absolute links, either, as this will break
once you move the application to another server.

Otherwise, look at Rails' routes.rb.

- --
Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com

Youth -- not a time of life but a state of mind... a predominance of
courage over timidity, of the appetite for adventure over the love of ease.
~ -- Robert Francis Kennedy (1925-1968)

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Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

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Xeno Campanoli wrote:

> No no no no no no! I have all the other stuff working. I've got
> UserDir and ProxyPass directives that get all the stuff set up initially
> from my http://host:n to my http://host/~u1/rrsw like I want. All I
> need now is to get all the URLs that are presently rendered in the
> markup as /something to be ~u1/rrsw/something. That is all I need. I
> have the rest working.

Why? Is the application not working? The webserver is smart enough to
construct the link properly, so that links should Just Work(tm).

And you don't really want absolute links, either, as this will break
once you move the application to another server.

They aren't absolute at all. What I get rendered by rails link_to, for instance, is things like <a href='/something'>Something</a>. What I need is still a relative link, which is <a href='~u1/rrsw/something'>Something</a> for u1, and <a href='~u2/rrsw/something'>Something</a> for u2. I originally expected there would be a simple rendering configuration for this in rails, and spent much of yesterday and part of Thursday asking on the #rubyonrails IRC. Not only did those folks know of no such configuration, but they didn't seem to even understand the OO need for encapsulation, nor the logical reason, nor the traditional Unix Webserver usage of ~user, nowadays configured with the UserDir Apache directive. Anyway, those are mostly Rails oriented issues and problems, which are interesting, but not completely appropriate here. What is appropriate to address here is the whole idea of redefinition of a Ruby method like link_to which is embedded in some arbitrary community/tree of modules and/or classes. I've never done much of that, and I know it's part of the real power that experienced OO users acquire in such environments.

Now ideally it would be nice if some Rails supergeek came out of the woodwork and said there in fact was a configuration to change the rendering, but it looks like there's not. You wouldn't want to change the URLs that Rails renders with an external rewrite in Apache if you can help it because that breaks encapsulation, which is a standard and a good ethic in OO programming any reasonable engineer would recognize, and given the ability to simply redefine link_to, url_for, or whatever other methods I use can achieve what I want, and not only that perhaps help lead to a future Rails configurability on such things in a reasonably elegant matter, presuming that it in fact doesn't yet exist, seems to me to make that the proper direction for me at this point.

Thanks for asking.

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Otherwise, look at Rails' routes.rb.

- --
Phillip Gawlowski
Twitter: twitter.com/cynicalryan
Blog: http://justarubyist.blogspot.com

Youth -- not a time of life but a state of mind... a predominance of
courage over timidity, of the appetite for adventure over the love of ease.
~ -- Robert Francis Kennedy (1925-1968)
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