Perl 6 (Was: Boy I love the Ruby community)

To me the most interesting thing about Perl 6, should it ever be
released, is that (AFAIK) it has built-in support for swapping in new
parsers at runtime. This has intriguing implications for DSLs.

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Avdi

To me the most interesting thing about Perl 6, should it ever be
released, is that (AFAIK) it has built-in support for swapping in new
parsers at runtime. This has intriguing implications for DSLs.

Oh yes but there are many many others. Maybe too many :frowning:
It immediately struck me when I read the Apocalypsis that writting
Perl6 code will be fun...
.... and reading Perl6 code written by others might just be hell.
Robert

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On 3/5/07, Avdi Grimm <avdi@avdi.org> wrote:

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Avdi

--
We have not succeeded in answering all of our questions.
In fact, in some ways, we are more confused than ever.
But we feel we are confused on a higher level and about more important things.
-Anonymous

Good luck with maintenance.

Dan

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On Mar 5, 8:33 am, "Avdi Grimm" <a...@avdi.org> wrote:

To me the most interesting thing about Perl 6, should it ever be
released, is that (AFAIK) it has built-in support for swapping in new
parsers at runtime. This has intriguing implications for DSLs.

Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!

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On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

--
Avdi

Write everywhere, use once!

Now that is mean but I could not resist, sorry folks.

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On 3/5/07, Avdi Grimm <avdi@avdi.org> wrote:

On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!

--
Avdi

--
We have not succeeded in answering all of our questions.
In fact, in some ways, we are more confused than ever.
But we feel we are confused on a higher level and about more important things.
-Anonymous

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

Adrian

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On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi Grimm wrote:

On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!

Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will start,
being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!

Jason

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On 3/5/07, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/5/07, Avdi Grimm <avdi@avdi.org> wrote:
> On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good luck with maintenance.
>
> Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!
>
> --
> Avdi
>

Write everywhere, use once!

Now that is mean but I could not resist, sorry folks.

--
We have not succeeded in answering all of our questions.
In fact, in some ways, we are more confused than ever.
But we feel we are confused on a higher level and about more important
things.
-Anonymous

'sokay. Perl hackers tend to have a good sense of humor, too.

By the way, my sig below is chosen randomly. You can blame my Perl sig
here on serendipity -- or on my computer.

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On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 06:48:29PM +0900, Adrian Howard wrote:

On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi Grimm wrote:

>On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Good luck with maintenance.
>
>Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);

I mentioned my theory at the last local ruby brigade get together that
the great thing about programming languages is that there are so many
of then that anyone can find at least a half-dozen or so that he can
hate without trying too hard. :wink:

Personally I just wonder, like Rodney King, "Why can't we just all get along?"

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On 3/7/07, Adrian Howard <adrianh@quietstars.com> wrote:

On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi Grimm wrote:

> On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good luck with maintenance.
>
> Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

--
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
Duke Nukem Forever

martin

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On 3/6/07, Jason Roelofs <jameskilton@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will start,
being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!

Short answer: Love and money.

Long answer: steve yegge - bambi-meets-godzilla

Regards,

Dan

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On Mar 7, 11:44 am, "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denat...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/7/07, Adrian Howard <adri...@quietstars.com> wrote:

> On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi Grimm wrote:

> > On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Good luck with maintenance.

> > Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!

> And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

I mentioned my theory at the last local ruby brigade get together that
the great thing about programming languages is that there are so many
of then that anyone can find at least a half-dozen or so that he can
hate without trying too hard. :wink:

Personally I just wonder, like Rodney King, "Why can't we just all get along?"

No, that's Arc.

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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:56:10AM +0900, Martin DeMello wrote:

On 3/6/07, Jason Roelofs <jameskilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will start,
>being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!

I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
Duke Nukem Forever

--
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
Ben Franklin: "As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of
others we should be glad of an Opportunity to serve others by any
Invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously."

My theory on this is that programmers don't know where they end and
the language begins. If you're doing something interesting and
challenging, the language won't matter. (Of course, I've been working
exclusively with Ruby almost from the moment I discovered it, so I
could just be completely full of BS there.)

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On 3/7/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 7, 11:44 am, "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/7/07, Adrian Howard <adri...@quietstars.com> wrote:
>
> > On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi Grimm wrote:
>
> > > On 3/5/07, Daniel Berger <djber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Good luck with maintenance.
>
> > > Perl? Maintenance? That's crazy-talk!
>
> > And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:
>
> I mentioned my theory at the last local ruby brigade get together that
> the great thing about programming languages is that there are so many
> of then that anyone can find at least a half-dozen or so that he can
> hate without trying too hard. :wink:
>
> Personally I just wonder, like Rodney King, "Why can't we just all get along?"

Short answer: Love and money.

Long answer: steve yegge - bambi-meets-godzilla

Regards,

Dan

--
Giles Bowkett
http://www.gilesgoatboy.org

http://giles.tumblr.com/

You can't rush Art.

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On 3/5/07, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:

No, that's Arc.

--
Avdi

Chad Perrin wrote:

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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:56:10AM +0900, Martin DeMello wrote:
  

On 3/6/07, Jason Roelofs <jameskilton@gmail.com> wrote:
    

Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will start,
being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!
      

I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
Duke Nukem Forever
    
No, that's Arc.

No, Arc's niche is that it will be the only language that's *never* released. :slight_smile:

--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC(P)
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given rabbits fire.

Hi,

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In message "Re: Perl 6 (Was: Boy I love the Ruby community)" on Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:05:30 +0900, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> writes:

I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
Duke Nukem Forever

No, that's Arc.

The new site for Y Combinatior is written in Arc. It's working.

    http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html

              matz.

No I do not think so;), just that you are exaggerating on a valid point.

Of course I would prefer to write lots of Java for an interesting
project working with good people and as a side remark our Java code
might become pretty pretty ;), rather to work on a dull project in
Ruby.
However when I can chose the language for the project than I will not
hesitate to take Ruby.
Both cases are extremes of course.

Cheers
Robert

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On 3/8/07, Giles Bowkett <gilesb@gmail.com> wrote:

My theory on this is that programmers don't know where they end and
the language begins. If you're doing something interesting and
challenging, the language won't matter. (Of course, I've been working
exclusively with Ruby almost from the moment I discovered it, so I
could just be completely full of BS there.)

--
We have not succeeded in answering all of our questions.
In fact, in some ways, we are more confused than ever.
But we feel we are confused on a higher level and about more important things.
-Anonymous

[snip]

I have an entire lightning rant on that topic. I have a strong dislike for "Foo Developer" as a job title (Foo == Perl/Ruby/Lisp/whatever). It's limiting.

Adrian

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On 8 Mar 2007, at 08:55, Giles Bowkett wrote:

My theory on this is that programmers don't know where they end and
the language begins. If you're doing something interesting and
challenging, the language won't matter. (Of course, I've been working
exclusively with Ruby almost from the moment I discovered it, so I
could just be completely full of BS there.)

Avdi Grimm wrote:

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On 3/5/07, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:

No, that's Arc.

You can't rush Art.

Art? I thought his name was Paul.

--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC(P)
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given rabbits fire.

. . . and you think Duke Nukem Forever *will* be released? I'd think
the name -- Forever -- would be a clue.

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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:46:55AM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

Chad Perrin wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:56:10AM +0900, Martin DeMello wrote:
>
>>On 3/6/07, Jason Roelofs <jameskilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will
>>>start,
>>>being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!
>>>
>>I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
>>Duke Nukem Forever
>>
>
>No, that's Arc.
>
>
No, Arc's niche is that it will be the only language that's *never*
released. :slight_smile:

--
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"The measure on a man's real character is what he would do
if he knew he would never be found out." - Thomas McCauley