OT: It's that time of year again

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

James
15 July

Canada was born on July 1st.
Happy Birthday Canada!!

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:40:57AM +0900, james_b wrote:

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

James
15 July


Daniel Carrera | OpenPGP fingerprint:
Graduate TA, Math Dept | 6643 8C8B 3522 66CB D16C D779 2FDD 7DAC 9AF7 7A88
UMD (301) 405-5137 | http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/pgp.html

Saluton!

  • james_b; 2003-07-02, 20:27 UTC:

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

Happy birthmonth Dalai Lama (1935-07-06).
Happy birthmonth Hermann Hesse (1877-7-2).

If anybody is interested in historical dates (and can at least read
some German):

http://www.kalenderblatt.de/

The above information was taken form their latest newsletter.

The web site and the newsletter are provided by the Deutsche Welle
which is a German equivalent to VOA (maybe a bit less biased, I don’t
listen to them very often).

Gis,

Josef ‘Jupp’ Schugt

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Someone even submitted a fingerprint for Debian Linux running on the
Microsoft Xbox. You have to love that irony :).
– Fyodor on nmap-hackers@insecure.org

Happy birthmonth too!

Joao
12 July

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Em Qua, 2003-07-02 às 13:40, james_b escreveu:

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

James
15 July

I also was born on the 15th of July. This month is my 18th birthday. Not
all of you will care. :wink:

Tim Bates

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:40:57AM +0900, james_b wrote:

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

James
15 July


tim@bates.id.au

Canada was born on July 1st.
Happy Birthday Canada!!

I saw that “Canada Day” on my calendar yesterday; what is it? The
anniversary of … what, becoming a sovereign nation (what was it prior to
that)?

Apologies for my US-centric ignorance of our northern neighbors.

Errm, are we going to list 1/12th of all famous people now? Please not…

Regards,

Brian.

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 07:25:23AM +0900, Josef ‘Jupp’ Schugt wrote:

Saluton!

  • james_b; 2003-07-02, 20:27 UTC:

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

Happy birthmonth Dalai Lama (1935-07-06).
Happy birthmonth Hermann Hesse (1877-7-2).

Actually it’s mildly fascinating to me to find out
people’s ages, since I can’t tell from their posts
how old people are (unless perchance they give it
away somehow). And I think it’s great that we can
meet as equals here without the prejudice of looking
at someone and saying “dumb kid” or “outmoded dinosaur.”

I’ve noticed that some people here are college students
and some are even high school students, I think. All I
can say is: Take it and run with it. I didn’t have Usenet
access when I was in high school. Use what you’ve got.
Sometimes I think this is the 21st century or something
(but then I think: Where are all the flying cars?).

On the Internet, nobody can tell you if you’re a
child prodigy or an octogenarian or a three-headed
alien or a hyperintelligent eggplant.

Yet another reason to give people slack. I don’t
want to find myself in a heated flamewar with a
twelve-year-old.

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----- Original Message -----
From: “Tim Bates” tim@bates.id.au
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: OT: It’s that time of year again …

On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:40:57AM +0900, james_b wrote:

Happy Birthmonth to all fellow Rubyists born in July!

James
15 July

I also was born on the 15th of July. This month is my 18th birthday. Not
all of you will care. :wink:


Hal Fulton
hal9000@hypermetrics.com

That’s okay. I am always happy to answer Canada questions to our American
brothers.

Canada, like the US, used to be a British colony. On July 1, 1867, four
British colonies – now the provinces of Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick
and Nova Scotia – were unified into one country.

One cool thing about Canadian history is that it became a sovereign nation
without having to have a war of independence. It was done purely out of
public will.

After July 1, 1867, the other British colonies started to join the
Dominion one by one. The 5th province to join was Manitoba, I think the
6th was British Columbia. The last province to join (Newfoundland) only
did so 54 years ago (1949). Canada is a young nation indeed.

Cheers,
Daniel.

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:46:00AM +0900, Michael Campbell wrote:

Canada was born on July 1st.
Happy Birthday Canada!!

I saw that “Canada Day” on my calendar yesterday; what is it? The
anniversary of … what, becoming a sovereign nation (what was it prior to
that)?

Apologies for my US-centric ignorance of our northern neighbors.


Daniel Carrera | OpenPGP fingerprint:
Graduate TA, Math Dept | 6643 8C8B 3522 66CB D16C D779 2FDD 7DAC 9AF7 7A88
UMD (301) 405-5137 | http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/pgp.html

Brian Candler wrote:

Errm, are we going to list 1/12th of all famous people now? Please not…

No, just the Rubyists we know.

:slight_smile:

James

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Regards,

Brian.

Actually it’s mildly fascinating to me to find out
people’s ages, since I can’t tell from their posts
how old people are (unless perchance they give it
away somehow). And I think it’s great that we can
meet as equals here without the prejudice of looking
at someone and saying “dumb kid” or “outmoded dinosaur.”

I agree! That’s one thing that was very useful for me as a teenager: I
actually got treated as an adult when I was doing things on the 'net.

I think I may have grown up faster because of it… once, I was the
twelve-year-old in the flame war, and the other fellow who was so hot on
attacking my educational ideals ended up looking like the immature one.
It was an odd turn, that’s for sure.

It seems to me that it’s a simple extension of that not knowing that can
make a respectful forum, like this list, because you can’t really know
someone’s nationality, native language (except ruby!), age or much
else. I rather like that. Too bad some list-cultures out there have
such a anglocentric view and such technical elitism thrown around. I’d
like ruby-talk’s culture to stay similar to how it is as Ruby grows – I
think that’s something people should keep in mind in their evangelism:
how can we help keep or create a culture of friendly helping? How do we
deal with the inevitable always-asked questions without becoming angry
like so many PHP forums do?

Something to think about.

Ari

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I’ve noticed that some people here are college students
and some are even high school students, I think. All I
can say is: Take it and run with it. I didn’t have Usenet
access when I was in high school. Use what you’ve got.
Sometimes I think this is the 21st century or something
(but then I think: Where are all the flying cars?).

On the Internet, nobody can tell you if you’re a
child prodigy or an octogenarian or a three-headed
alien or a hyperintelligent eggplant.

Yet another reason to give people slack. I don’t
want to find myself in a heated flamewar with a
twelve-year-old.


Hal Fulton
hal9000@hypermetrics.com

As did Australia … although about 30 years later.

Happy belated birthday, Canada!

Harry O.

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:58, Daniel Carrera wrote:

One cool thing about Canadian history is that it became a sovereign nation
without having to have a war of independence. It was done purely out of
public will.

The Dalai Lama and Hermann Hesse were Rubyists?? :slight_smile:

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On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:08:53AM +0900, james_b wrote:

Errm, are we going to list 1/12th of all famous people now? Please not…

No, just the Rubyists we know.

“Aredridel” aredridel@nbtsc.org schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1057261054.2512.13.camel@mizar…

I’d
like ruby-talk’s culture to stay similar to how it is as Ruby grows –

That would be nice, yes.

I
think that’s something people should keep in mind in their evangelism:
how can we help keep or create a culture of friendly helping? How do we
deal with the inevitable always-asked questions without becoming angry
like so many PHP forums do?

Practice buddhism.

robert

In article 1057261054.2512.13.camel@mizar, Aredridel wrote:

how can we help keep or create a culture of friendly helping? How do we
deal with the inevitable always-asked questions without becoming angry
like so many PHP forums do?

That’s easy: Write a ruby script to handle these questions :wink:

Probably that’s the first step of a script understanding its own programming
language …

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Volker Grabsch
—<<(())>>—
\frac{\left|\vartheta_0\times{\ell,\kappa\in\Re}\right|}{\sqrt
[G]{-\Gamma(\alpha)\cdot\mathcal{B}^{\left[\oint!c_\hbar\right]}}}

I must say, I don’t notice many FAQs being asked on the list anymore.
Maybe it’s because I don’t have as much time to read it, and/or maybe
it’s because the resources devoted to circumventing such questions are
working!

Gavin

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On Friday, July 4, 2003, 5:37:45 AM, Aredridel wrote:

[…]
How do we deal with the inevitable always-asked questions without
becoming angry like so many PHP forums do?
[…]

Saluton!

  • Brian Candler; 2003-07-03, 16:57 UTC:

The Dalai Lama and Hermann Hesse were Rubyists?? :slight_smile:

If you wish to ask the Dalai Lama himself: To my knowledge his mail
address is

ohhdl(a)vsnl.com

Please replace (a) by an ‘@’.

Gis,

Josef ‘Jupp’ Schugt

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Someone even submitted a fingerprint for Debian Linux running on the
Microsoft Xbox. You have to love that irony :).
– Fyodor on nmap-hackers@insecure.org

This is consistent with [ruby-talk:75075].

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On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:54:07PM +0900, Robert Klemme wrote:

I
think that’s something people should keep in mind in their evangelism:
how can we help keep or create a culture of friendly helping? How do we
deal with the inevitable always-asked questions without becoming angry
like so many PHP forums do?

Practice buddhism.


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Scripsit ille »Robert Klemme« bob.news@gmx.net:

“Aredridel” aredridel@nbtsc.org schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1057261054.2512.13.camel@mizar…

I’d
like ruby-talk’s culture to stay similar to how it is as Ruby grows –

That would be nice, yes.

I
think that’s something people should keep in mind in their evangelism:
how can we help keep or create a culture of friendly helping? How do we
deal with the inevitable always-asked questions without becoming angry
like so many PHP forums do?

Practice buddhism.

If not, at least forget the phrases RTFM and RTFFAQ as well as anything else
with a big f*^W F in it.

One could always…

  • Answer the question by a link to the FAQ at the right point, together
    with some friendly sentence. Perhaps…

    Your question is answered here:

    http://...
    

    If you have further questions, feel free to ask.

  • Silently ignore too-often-asked questions and NOT getting rude. It’s
    still much better than flaming.

  • Read the “netiquette”.

Flames are not necessary. Never. Sometimes they may be “fun”, but not
in a technical newsgroup. A good “bad example” is
de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc (German group, there’s a LOT of flaming in
there) and de.comp.security.misc (same problem).

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Wir haben sehr lange und intensiv darüber nachgedacht und gesprochen,
was diese Worte bedeuten mögen: “Und half mir auch nicht du”. Das
scheint auf dem ersten Blick keinen Sinn zu machen - und in der Tat,
es macht auch keinen Sinn. – Wise Guys