Hello, all. I was just wondering with the deadline coming up how many
have submitted proposals for talks/tutorials at OSCON? It would be sad to
be under-represented. I’m still debating (partially based on where I’ll
be living in July) trying to do one.
Chad
In article Pine.LNX.4.44.0301280753170.11338-100000@ns1.chadfowler.com,
Chad Fowler chad@chadfowler.com wrote:
Hello, all. I was just wondering with the deadline coming up how many
have submitted proposals for talks/tutorials at OSCON? It would be sad to
be under-represented. I’m still debating (partially based on where I’ll
be living in July) trying to do one.
I submitted a couple of proposals:
“Ruby for Perl Programmers”
“Using Swig for mixed language development”
The second one isn’t directly Ruby related, but if it’s accepted I plan to
use Ruby in the examples.
“Or perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?”
Amy Weiss (accusing theregister.co.uk of engaging in ‘tabloid journalism’)
Senior VP, Communications
Recording Industry Association of America
Hello.
Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON?
The points are
my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you.
two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid
RubyConf travel expense last two years.
Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON
b) have RubyConf in OSCON
c) find sponsor to buy me tickets
Any ideas?
matz.
Hello.
Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON?
YES!!!
The points are
- my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you.
matz, your english is fine.
- two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid
RubyConf travel expense last two years.
This is a problem.
Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON b) have RubyConf in OSCON
Living in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added
bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a
Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance
from interested OSCON attendees.
c) find sponsor to buy me tickets
If it comes down to this, what about doing something like the
PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to
fund your trip?
-pate
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Any ideas?
matz.
In article 1043760501.253419.25604.nullmailer@picachu.netlab.jp,
Hello.
Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON?
Sure.
The points are
- my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you.
We were able to understand you just fine.
- two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid
RubyConf travel expense last two years.Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON
b) have RubyConf in OSCON
This is a very interesting idea. As Pat mentioned this would boost Ruby
attendence at OSCON - if people also went to OSCON - and that would
increase Ruby’s visibility there. Python holds their annual meeting in
conjunction with OSCON.
Is there enough time to put together a RubyConf by July?
I live in Portland, so I guess I’ve got alterior motives 
Phil
“Or perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?”
Amy Weiss (accusing theregister.co.uk of engaging in ‘tabloid journalism’)
Senior VP, Communications
Recording Industry Association of America
I think people would go a long wa yto hear you talk 
I regularily attend OSCON coming form the UK, and all things being
equal, will be presenting on Open Source connectivity with SAP which
includes Ruby. So I would love to see a Ruby track operating at the
same time.
I also think that there is a lot of interest building in the Perl
community about Ruby, and OSCON is after all the Perl conference as well
The guy to talk to is Nathan Talkington regarding a Ruby track, and the
best way to O’Reillys’ attention is to start making submissions which you
can do right here:
Conferences - O'Reilly Media - closing date
is 15th of Feb.
Cheers.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:46:25AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hello.
Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON?
The points are
my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you.
two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid
RubyConf travel expense last two years.Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON b) have RubyConf in OSCON c) find sponsor to buy me ticketsAny ideas?
matz.
Hi –
Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON b) have RubyConf in OSCONLiving in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added
bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a
Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance
from interested OSCON attendees.c) find sponsor to buy me ticketsIf it comes down to this, what about doing something like the
PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to
fund your trip?
c) is definitely the best of the three possibilities. July is awfully
soon to have the next RubyConf… and Portland is awfully close to
Seattle (I’d really like to spread them out geographically, at least
within the U.S.). Also, I’m not sure that RubyConf would boost OSCON
Ruby attendance much, at least if I’m reading last year’s OSCON fees
correctly and if this year’s are anything like last year’s ($895 for
3-day conference attendance, or $400 per day for 1 or 2).
As for donations: the umbrella non-profit organization for the
conference, Ruby Central, Inc., is designed as a clearinghouse for
this kind of thing, except that it doesn’t yet have tax-exempt status
(so donations are not tax deductible). But that’s being looked into.
David
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:
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home: dblack@candle.superlink.net
work: blackdav@shu.edu
Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav
Piers Harding piers@ompa.net writes:
The guy to talk to is Nathan Talkington regarding a Ruby track, and the
best way to O’Reillys’ attention is to start making submissions which you
can do right here:
I’m talking with Gnat on Friday and will see what I can do; I’m aiming
at putting a couple of Ruby talks in.
–
Henry, I’m a Regent Master of the Ancient and Venerable House of Congregation.
Being eccentrically dull is practically my job description.
- Jonathan Jones
Hi –
Hi David,
Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON b) have RubyConf in OSCONLiving in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added
bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a
Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance
from interested OSCON attendees.c) find sponsor to buy me ticketsIf it comes down to this, what about doing something like the
PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to
fund your trip?c) is definitely the best of the three possibilities. July is awfully
soon to have the next RubyConf… and Portland is awfully close to
Seattle (I’d really like to spread them out geographically, at least
within the U.S.). Also, I’m not sure that RubyConf would boost OSCON
Ruby attendance much, at least if I’m reading last year’s OSCON fees
correctly and if this year’s are anything like last year’s ($895 for
3-day conference attendance, or $400 per day for 1 or 2).
You’re probably right, but it can’t hurt to dream about another RubyConf
in the Pacific Northwest. Heck, we could even rotate between Vancouver,
Seattle, and Portland. ;^)
As for donations: the umbrella non-profit organization for the
conference, Ruby Central, Inc., is designed as a clearinghouse for
this kind of thing, except that it doesn’t yet have tax-exempt status
(so donations are not tax deductible). But that’s being looked into.
This is great news. Maybe we should look into setting up a couple of
funds withing Ruby Central, Inc. It would be nice to sponsor matz et al
for trips to OSCON, RubyConf, etc. It might also be nice to sponsor work
on Ruby a la Damian Conway, Dan Sugalski, and Larry Wall’s efforts on Perl
6.
-pate
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:
David
–
David Alan Black
home: dblack@candle.superlink.net
work: blackdav@shu.edu
Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav
Hi –
Options are
a) have RubyConf around OSCON b) have RubyConf in OSCONLiving in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added
bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a
Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance
from interested OSCON attendees.c) find sponsor to buy me ticketsIf it comes down to this, what about doing something like the
PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to
fund your trip?c) is definitely the best of the three possibilities. July is awfully
soon to have the next RubyConf… and Portland is awfully close to
Seattle (I’d really like to spread them out geographically, at least
within the U.S.). Also, I’m not sure that RubyConf would boost OSCON
Ruby attendance much, at least if I’m reading last year’s OSCON fees
correctly and if this year’s are anything like last year’s ($895 for
3-day conference attendance, or $400 per day for 1 or 2).
Agreed here. Especially in terms of geographic spread. We’ve done east
coast and then west coast in the two conferences respectively so far.
As for donations: the umbrella non-profit organization for the
conference, Ruby Central, Inc., is designed as a clearinghouse for
this kind of thing, except that it doesn’t yet have tax-exempt status
(so donations are not tax deductible). But that’s being looked into.
Matz, if you were to do a tutorial, O’Reilly would cover a decent amount
of your travel expenses. That might be the best way to get to OSCON. I
would suggest that if you can get to OSCON, we should find a way to
sponsor your RubyConf trip. We can probably do that with a friendly loan
from someone who’s got the cash (I think we can find that) and then pay it
back with conference attendance fees.
Chad
Hi,
In message “Re: OSCON Ruby presentations?” on 03/01/29, Chad Fowler chad@chadfowler.com writes:
Matz, if you were to do a tutorial, O’Reilly would cover a decent amount
of your travel expenses. That might be the best way to get to OSCON. I
would suggest that if you can get to OSCON, we should find a way to
sponsor your RubyConf trip. We can probably do that with a friendly loan
from someone who’s got the cash (I think we can find that) and then pay it
back with conference attendance fees.
Since half day or full day tutorial, which enable travel expense
payment, is too hard for me, I’m going to submit 45 minute
presentation. Unless somebody ask me about specific subject he wants
to hear, I’m going to submit something like “The Power and Philosophy
of Ruby”.
matz.