I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have
no prior knowledge in any programming language. I have gone through lots
of online tutorials, read books etc..but still cant get the program to
do what i want it to do for my work as a teacher. I am prepared to pay
for a online tutor who can teach me according to what i need to do. Its
more like project based learning. With some hands on training i will
sure be able to learn it. Anyone interested. Tq
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Sometimes, the best things in life are free: http://ruby-kickstart.com/
Give that a whirl. A tutor is a good idea for the more difficult
concepts to grasp.
That said, programming is a matter of *practice*: I have no CS degree,
and use Ruby as a hobby, but can still hold my own with easier stuff.
Practice makes perfect. 
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:00 AM, T J Pereira <tj5155@tm.net.my> wrote:
I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have
no prior knowledge in any programming language. I have gone through lots
of online tutorials, read books etc..but still cant get the program to
do what i want it to do for my work as a teacher. I am prepared to pay
for a online tutor who can teach me according to what i need to do. Its
more like project based learning. With some hands on training i will
sure be able to learn it. Anyone interested. Tq
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phgaw.posterous.com | twitter.com/phgaw | gplus.to/phgaw
A method of solution is perfect if we can forsee from the start,
and even prove, that following that method we shall attain our aim.
-- Leibniz
T J Pereira wrote in post #1016290:
I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have
no prior knowledge in any programming language.
I would question your choice of Ruby. It's a very sophisticated
language. Maybe you could tell us what you are trying to do. There are
many simpler, but still powerful, options.
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Hello,
I am not a teacher as I am learning Ruby myself, but if you have no prior programming skills then you need to start from learning Object Oriented Programming (OOP) as this can be harder to learn (for some) than learning Ruby itself. Ruby is a pretty expressive language and is easy to pickup, but hard to master. For example:
ary = [1,2,3,4,5]
ary.each { |item| puts item }
This is very basic and simply says create an array of 1,2,3,4,5 and then the each method says "for each item in the array do something" what that something to be done is inside the "block" (a bit more advanced but not to much). My point is it reads pretty well. Now the harder part can be the OOP and if you don't understand it you will be lost in Ruby as it is 100% OOP. That is even a number is an object so one can do things like 1.to_s which will give you "1" unlike Java (another OOP language) where 1 is 1 or a basic element of the language.
Thanks
Josh
>________________________________
>From: T J Pereira <tj5155@tm.net.my>
>To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:00 AM
>Subject: Online tutor for Ruby
>
>I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have
>no prior knowledge in any programming language. I have gone through lots
>of online tutorials, read books etc..but still cant get the program to
>do what i want it to do for my work as a teacher. I am prepared to pay
>for a online tutor who can teach me according to what i need to do. Its
>more like project based learning. With some hands on training i will
>sure be able to learn it. Anyone interested. Tq
>
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>Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
>
>
>
TJ
Thank you for asking this question. I am also looking to learn a
programming language and happened to come across Ruby.
I have had one class in algorithms and one in HTML/CSS by handcoding. So I
get it a little bit.
Have been following this string of emails for about 2 weeks.
Philip
Thank you ! Thank you! For the link to ruby-kickstart. What I wanted to
find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY? And if so, where?
Regards, Cathy
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:00 AM, T J Pereira <tj5155@tm.net.my> wrote:
>
> I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have
> no prior knowledge in any programming language. I have gone through lots
> of online tutorials, read books etc..but still cant get the program to
> do what i want it to do for my work as a teacher. I am prepared to pay
> for a online tutor who can teach me according to what i need to do. Its
> more like project based learning. With some hands on training i will
> sure be able to learn it. Anyone interested. Tq
Sometimes, the best things in life are free: http://ruby-kickstart.com/
Give that a whirl. A tutor is a good idea for the more difficult
concepts to grasp.
That said, programming is a matter of *practice*: I have no CS degree,
and use Ruby as a hobby, but can still hold my own with easier stuff.
Practice makes perfect.
--
Phillip Gawlowski
phgaw.posterous.com | twitter.com/phgaw | gplus.to/phgaw
A method of solution is perfect if we can forsee from the start,
and even prove, that following that method we shall attain our aim.
-- Leibniz
T J Pereira wrote in post #1016290:
> I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have
> no prior knowledge in any programming language.
Http://tryruby.org
From there check out the book learn to program. I think it's published by
the pragmatic pub.
I think ruby is an excellent first language. Essentially I would eventually
learn some lower level language or some fake assembler like language, so you
understand Opcode, pc counter etc
Andrew Mcelroy.
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On Aug 12, 2011 8:21 AM, "Mike Stephens" <rubfor@recitel.net> wrote:
I would question your choice of Ruby. It's a very sophisticated
language. Maybe you could tell us what you are trying to do. There are
many simpler, but still powerful, options.
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Allen Wyma wrote in post #1016291:
What's the rate?.
Tq allen, send me you email and we can further talk about this.
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Lord, I hope there aren't any certifications for Ruby. Write code,
open source it, and create a portfolio with that. Code speaks louder
than paper.
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, cathy alomari <cathy1428@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you ! Thank you! For the link to ruby-kickstart. What I wanted to
find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY? And if so, where?
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Phillip Gawlowski
phgaw.posterous.com | twitter.com/phgaw | gplus.to/phgaw
A method of solution is perfect if we can forsee from the start,
and even prove, that following that method we shall attain our aim.
-- Leibniz
cathy alomari wrote in post #1016296:
What I wanted to find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY?
All people who use Ruby are certifiable, if that helps.
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Hey ----> just checking
I hate getting certifications because experience is the best!
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, cathy alomari <cathy1428@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Thank you ! Thank you! For the link to ruby-kickstart. What I wanted
to
> find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY? And if so, where?
Lord, I hope there aren't any certifications for Ruby. Write code,
open source it, and create a portfolio with that. Code speaks louder
than paper.
--
Phillip Gawlowski
phgaw.posterous.com | twitter.com/phgaw | gplus.to/phgaw
A method of solution is perfect if we can forsee from the start,
and even prove, that following that method we shall attain our aim.
-- Leibniz
I thought about this a bit, as I do agree that certifications do not speak as well as code for assessing someone's coding talents. However, they do provide a way to help get Ruby more exposure in the business world. Some managers prefer to have an objective means of evaluating candidates to help provide some kind of filtering. That is why a certification could help create confidence in the hiring of Ruby developers. I think it would be awesome to see something like this get more Ruby folks hired. However, I also think Ruby needs to have a solid language specification before any sort of certification can be considered.
Regards,
Chris White
http://www.twitter.com/cwgem
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On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, cathy alomari <cathy1428@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you ! Thank you! For the link to ruby-kickstart. What I wanted to
find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY? And if so, where?
Lord, I hope there aren't any certifications for Ruby. Write code,
open source it, and create a portfolio with that. Code speaks louder
than paper.
Hi Chris
Actually, I have a cousin who hold either a Masters or PhD in CS. His
manager passed him by for a promotion because he had no certifications. I
thought it was totally weird because my cousin had even been a University
instructor for CS. I have been told that each company/manager is different.
Cathy
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Chris White <cwprogram@live.com> wrote:
On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, cathy alomari <cathy1428@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> Thank you ! Thank you! For the link to ruby-kickstart. What I wanted
to
>> find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY? And if so, where?
>
> Lord, I hope there aren't any certifications for Ruby. Write code,
> open source it, and create a portfolio with that. Code speaks louder
> than paper.
I thought about this a bit, as I do agree that certifications do not speak
as well as code for assessing someone's coding talents. However, they do
provide a way to help get Ruby more exposure in the business world. Some
managers prefer to have an objective means of evaluating candidates to help
provide some kind of filtering. That is why a certification could help
create confidence in the hiring of Ruby developers. I think it would be
awesome to see something like this get more Ruby folks hired. However, I
also think Ruby needs to have a solid language specification before any sort
of certification can be considered.
Regards,
Chris White
http://www.twitter.com/cwgem
There is one here (http://www.ruby-assn.org/en/certification.htm\) but it's
for 1.8.7, so about to be outdated. I've never heard of any outside of that
one. I just went through a number of interviews, and no one ever asked about
certification, it was looking at my portfolio, then some emails, then skype
interview, then fly in for in person interview for a day or two. For the in
person interview, all of them involved sitting down writing code with people
in some capacity or other.
I think a portfolio is better than a certification in the Ruby world as it
currently exists.
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Chris White <cwprogram@live.com> wrote:
On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, cathy alomari <cathy1428@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> Thank you ! Thank you! For the link to ruby-kickstart. What I wanted
to
>> find out is there are "certifications" for RUBY? And if so, where?
>
> Lord, I hope there aren't any certifications for Ruby. Write code,
> open source it, and create a portfolio with that. Code speaks louder
> than paper.
I thought about this a bit, as I do agree that certifications do not speak
as well as code for assessing someone's coding talents. However, they do
provide a way to help get Ruby more exposure in the business world. Some
managers prefer to have an objective means of evaluating candidates to help
provide some kind of filtering. That is why a certification could help
create confidence in the hiring of Ruby developers. I think it would be
awesome to see something like this get more Ruby folks hired. However, I
also think Ruby needs to have a solid language specification before any sort
of certification can be considered.
Regards,
Chris White
http://www.twitter.com/cwgem
It's worse than that. The moment certifications start becoming
recognized by employers, it becomes a shortcut for many of them in the
hiring process that overshadows things that actually matter. Such
certifications tend to result in less-qualified people being hired more
often, commoditizing developers rather than giving them credit where it's
due, and otherwise screwing up the job market.
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 04:43:03PM +0900, Chris White wrote:
I thought about this a bit, as I do agree that certifications do not
speak as well as code for assessing someone's coding talents. However,
they do provide a way to help get Ruby more exposure in the business
world. Some managers prefer to have an objective means of evaluating
candidates to help provide some kind of filtering. That is why a
certification could help create confidence in the hiring of Ruby
developers. I think it would be awesome to see something like this get
more Ruby folks hired. However, I also think Ruby needs to have a solid
language specification before any sort of certification can be
considered.
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Certifications are indeed a touchy subject for some. I'm not too much of a fan of them myself, instead believing that code speaks far louder than anything a test could provider. However I am a fan of seeing more people being able to use Ruby at the workplace. It could provide a way to approach business who are evaluating languages choices and provide them a way to objectively evaluate candidates. However, as I mentioned it would be within best interest that such a certification was created against an official specification of the language (something I'm trying to work on as a side project).
Regards,
Chris White
http://www.twitter.com/cwgem
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On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:52 AM, cathy alomari wrote:
Hi Chris
Actually, I have a cousin who hold either a Masters or PhD in CS. His
manager passed him by for a promotion because he had no certifications. I
thought it was totally weird because my cousin had even been a University
instructor for CS. I have been told that each company/manager is different.
Cathy
That and a GitHub commit log, if at all available.
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On 08/12/2011 10:34 AM, Josh Cheek wrote:
I think a portfolio is better than a certification in the Ruby world as it
currently exists.
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Stefano