Noob question re:returning nil

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Hello all, I am a beginner programmer and a beginner to Ruby. I was just
going through a tutorial book and trying to create some programs. The
current program I am working on I am having trouble with.

I have defined a method and the last thing in the method is a puts
concatenation. The program runs and does everything correctly except for
when I call the method it puts the string and then nil underneath.

I thought the return value was the last value of the string so I don't
understand why it is doing this. How do I get rid of the nil?

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If I'm not mistaken, you're doing something like this.

irb(main):001:0> def myputs(x)
irb(main):002:1> puts("**" + x + "**")
irb(main):003:1> end
=> nil
irb(main):004:0> myputs("foobar")
**foobar**
=> nil

The return value of myputs is the value of the last expression, which is whatever puts returns. If you do ri 'Kernel#puts', you will find that it always returns nil, which is what you're getting. That's a characteristic of Kernel#puts. The other piece to the puzzle is that irb displays the return value of whatever you enter. So calling myputs displays a message, and then shows the return value of nil.

There may be a way of turning off the display of returned values in irb. If so, I don't know what it is, because I've never wanted to use it. Maybe someone else can tell you that.

The important point is that displaying the returned value is only a characteristic of irb. Running a program via the ruby command doesn't display return values, and therefore you only get printed that which you explicitly specify is to be printed, via puts or print or some such.

Hope that helps -- vincent

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On 2011-04-13, at 21:27, Nathan McDorman wrote:

Hello all, I am a beginner programmer and a beginner to Ruby. I was just
going through a tutorial book and trying to create some programs. The
current program I am working on I am having trouble with.

I have defined a method and the last thing in the method is a puts
concatenation. The program runs and does everything correctly except for
when I call the method it puts the string and then nil underneath.

I thought the return value was the last value of the string so I don't
understand why it is doing this. How do I get rid of the nil?

3

Evaluating `puts` returns `nil`. If you want to have a `puts` in the
method, then return the value of the string, you'll have to do something
to return the value of the string explicitly after the `puts` expression.

For instance, this will return `nil`:

    def foo
      puts 'one' + ' ' + 'two'
    end

This will return `'one two'`:

    def foo
      puts (bar = 'one' + ' ' + 'two')
      bar
    end

On the other hand, you're probably better off saving your `puts` for the
output of the method, unless the `puts` is the only reason to have the
method. For instance, this:

    def concat(foo,bar)
      foo + ' ' + bar
    end

    puts combined = concat('one','two')

. . . is probably better than this:

    def concat(foo,bar)
      puts combined_val = foo + ' ' + bar
      combined_val
    end

    combined = concat('one', 'two')

The reason it's probably better is that the second example does things
inside the method that is not actually part of the core reason for the
method, and you actually save complexity by handling the output method
`puts` outside of the method.

I hope that helps.

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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 01:27:48PM +0900, Nathan McDorman wrote:

Hello all, I am a beginner programmer and a beginner to Ruby. I was just
going through a tutorial book and trying to create some programs. The
current program I am working on I am having trouble with.

I have defined a method and the last thing in the method is a puts
concatenation. The program runs and does everything correctly except for
when I call the method it puts the string and then nil underneath.

I thought the return value was the last value of the string so I don't
understand why it is doing this. How do I get rid of the nil?

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Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

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Thank you guys so much I really appreciate the help! I've changed the
program to a method that just calculates what I want it to return and
holds it in a var placed at the end of the method. Then I call puts
outside of the method on the method.

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I'm glad we were able to help.

Enjoy!

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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 02:55:30PM +0900, Nathan McDorman wrote:

Thank you guys so much I really appreciate the help! I've changed the
program to a method that just calculates what I want it to return and
holds it in a var placed at the end of the method. Then I call puts
outside of the method on the method.

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Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]