How about everyone stops responding to Lazaridis?
This latest thread has confirmed all troll-suspicions.
To protect the integrity of information about ruby and
the list itself (for example a ml hit from a search
engine), I also recommend that whenever a new post from
Lazaridis appears, whoever is quickest will post a
standard response such as:
"Ilias Lazaridis is a troll and is being ignored by this
community on purpose. Any information from Lazaridis should
be considered to be either incorrect or inaccurate.
If you came across this Lazaridis post in a search on a
ruby-related question, we advise you to post your question
to comp.lang.ruby (or ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org, the mirrored
mailing list), or try another search result.
Regards,
ruby-talk- and comp.lang.ruby users"
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How about everyone stops responding to Lazaridis?
This latest thread has confirmed all troll-suspicions.
I dont think this works, Ruby's community is just too nice I propose to create automatically generated responses from some kind of eliza bot and use this as the response. Eventually the troll will get annoyed and leave.
martinus
"Ilias Lazaridis is a troll and is being ignored by this
community on purpose. Any information from Lazaridis should
be considered to be either incorrect or inaccurate.
He's not a troll. People who try to label other trolls are more
annoying to me than actual/near/nowherenear trolls.
From TNHD
Troll - "To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable
responses or flames"
He's not doing that, he's just living in a different world to most
people where he wants detailed regimented responses to questions he
considers important.
Dealing with that sort of person is part of the 'live and let live'
philosophy I'd expect alot of Rubists to have.
cheers
lyndon
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Yes, these creatures share the quality of Boggarts from the Harry Potter books. They only have any effect through any attention we give them. We should just ignore. (I speak from long time comp.lang.smalltalk experience.)
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On Apr 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Saynatkari wrote:
How about everyone stops responding to Lazaridis?
This latest thread has confirmed all troll-suspicions.
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Lyndon Samson, April 20:
Troll - "To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable
responses or flames"
He's not doing that, he's just living in a different world to most
people where he wants detailed regimented responses to questions he
considers important.
No, but his postings are still attracting predictable responses and/or
flames. Time and time again, people have tried to take him seriously
and responded with information that anyone but him would consider
sufficient to answer his question. He just doesn't care about getting
answers, which makes him a troll, whether it fits the definition or not,
nikolai
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This makes me wonder what Ilias is like in the real world. Can you imagine him trying to order a beer in bar?
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In message <a39f6ad005042002172aba6359@mail.gmail.com>, Lyndon Samson <lyndon.samson@gmail.com> writes
He's not doing that, he's just living in a different world to most
people where he wants detailed regimented responses to questions he
considers important.
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Thank you Peter, I totally agree. Yes, we should ignore him. With this is mind, I authored the following:
Ruby | zenspider.com | by ryan davis
Please help me by joining this effort.
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On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Peter Suk wrote:
Yes, these creatures share the quality of Boggarts from the Harry Potter books. They only have any effect through any attention we give them. We should just ignore. (I speak from long time comp.lang.smalltalk experience.)
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Stephen Kellett <snail@objmedia.demon.co.uk> writes:
From: Stephen Kellett <snail@objmedia.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [LOON]: 'Ignoring Lazaridis'-proposal
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ruby
To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:34 +0900
Organization: Object Media Limited
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He's not doing that, he's just living in a different world to most
people where he wants detailed regimented responses to questions he
considers important.
This makes me wonder what Ilias is like in the real world. Can you
imagine him trying to order a beer in bar?
I already read about him in the library:
http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=3D92E087.6010504%40swipnet.se
Stephen Kellett
I'm trying hard to keep this my last post on Ilias,
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Yes, these creatures share the quality of Boggarts from the Harry
Potter books. They only have any effect through any attention we give
them. We should just ignore. (I speak from long time
comp.lang.smalltalk experience.)
Thank you Peter, I totally agree. Yes, we should ignore him. With this
is mind, I authored the following:
Ruby | zenspider.com | by ryan davis
Please help me by joining this effort.
While I grant yours is much more entertaining, I maintain
mine may better convey information for the casual browser 
Perhaps we can include both in the event he decides he does,
in fact, have more leeway in his Ruby Time Budget and posts
again.
ryand-ruby@zenspider.com - Seattle.rb -
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Le 20/4/2005, "Ryan Davis" <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> a écrit:
On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Peter Suk wrote:
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Hmm, definitely not a troll. Something, as Shakespeare would say, more "rich & strange" than a troll.
http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=nbusers&msgNo=47625
http://groups.google.co.nz/groups?q="Ilias+Lazaridis"&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=41ED75AB.3000304%40lazaridis.com&rnum=2
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects/browse_thread/thread/71d0ebe7154db662/fb4146f701b3455c?q="Ilias+Lazaridis"&rnum=49&hl=en#fb4146f701b3455c
What would he be like ordering a beer, that's easy...
One rum&raisin beer coming up Sir!
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Stephen Kellett wrote:
In message <a39f6ad005042002172aba6359@mail.gmail.com>, Lyndon Samson > <lyndon.samson@gmail.com> writes
He's not doing that, he's just living in a different world to most
people where he wants detailed regimented responses to questions he
considers important.
This makes me wonder what Ilias is like in the real world. Can you imagine him trying to order a beer in bar?
I agree that a two pronged approach is probably best. I just worry that ANY response to him will be enough encouragement for him to post more.
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On Apr 20, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Saynatkari wrote:
While I grant yours is much more entertaining, I maintain
mine may better convey information for the casual browser
Perhaps we can include both in the event he decides he does,
in fact, have more leeway in his Ruby Time Budget and posts
again.
I agree that a two pronged approach is probably best. I just worry that ANY response to him will be enough encouragement for him to post more.
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On Apr 20, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Saynatkari wrote:
While I grant yours is much more entertaining, I maintain
mine may better convey information for the casual browser
Perhaps we can include both in the event he decides he does,
in fact, have more leeway in his Ruby Time Budget and posts
again.
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> Perhaps we can include both in the event he decides he does,
> in fact, have more leeway in his Ruby Time Budget and posts
> again.
I agree that a two pronged approach is probably best. I just worry that
ANY response to him will be enough encouragement for him to post more.
Were we lucky this time? Meaning it seems like because of
kind posters, we have a plethora of info on singleton classes
and metaclasses that resulted from kind folks trying to
answer questions.
I'm just thinking in terms of focusing on the positive. 
Regards,
Bill
This lynch mob/clique mentality is disapointing, and doesn't fit in
ruby-talk. If you dont like him ignore him. Is that so hard? Why blow
it up out of all proportion?
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On 4/21/05, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:
On Apr 20, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Saynatkari wrote:
> While I grant yours is much more entertaining, I maintain
> mine may better convey information for the casual browser
> Perhaps we can include both in the event he decides he does,
> in fact, have more leeway in his Ruby Time Budget and posts
> again.
I agree that a two pronged approach is probably best. I just worry that
ANY response to him will be enough encouragement for him to post more.
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