I am looking for a free Ruby ide

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b1_ __ wrote in post #1050011:

    Linux and cross-platform tools:

I'd like to comment on some of these because most are not fully IDE's.

        Aptana Studio

Pretty extensive, you could say this is a full IDE. It includes
debugging support.

        Emacs with Ruby mode and Rsense

Emacs is an ancient and very powerful programmable text editor with
syntax highlighting but not an IDE.

        Geany

A simple text editor with some perks. It will do syntax highlighting and
has some support for projects.

        gedit

A simple text editor with syntax highlighting but no more.

        Vim with vim-ruby plugin and Rsense

Another ancient and very powerful programmable text editor like emacs,
can be made to do just about anything a text editor can do but with
quite a learning curve. Many people swear by Vim because they've learned
to be very efficient at it. You can get VI keybindings in many other
editors so you can do a combination - for example Sublime and RubyMine
can do that.

        RubyMine

This is a full featured Ruby IDE but it's not free. You can evaluate it
for a month before you have to pay $99. It's got everything you could
want - introspection, highlighting, refactoring support, database
support, efficient navigation. Frequently consumes 1GB of RAM on my
machine :). Very good for Rails work.

        SciTe

I've not used this much but I think its on the same level as Geany - a
text editor with some project support.

    On Windows:
        Notepad++

Pretty good for a text editor, far better than Notepad! Still, not much
more than Geany.

        E-TextEditor

Never used this.

        Ruby In Steel

This is a plugin for Visual studio with some intellisense features. I've
not used it much.

    On Mac OS X:
        TextMate
        TextWrangler

I've not used these but I have used Sublime Text which is similar.
Sublime is a powerful text editor that includes a ton of easy to install
plugins (like VIM) - but without the learning curve. It has excellent
navigation features so it's pretty good for Rails work but doesn't
understand Ruby code to the point RubyMine does, so it can't quite
navigate as well.. though it's fuzzy file finder almost makes that a
non-issue.

Sublime is not free but you can manage to keep using it if you ignore
the nag screens. Still, it's also not an IDE since it doesn't have
debugging support or any real understanding of the code.

I know tools can become a fanboy fight, I've tried to be objective and I
hope I can people some time in trying all of these out. Feel free to
correct me or add your 2c. Some of these editors I've not used in some
time so YMMV. My most recent have been Vim, Sublime and RubyMine and I
highly recommend these.

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This is what keeps me from really committing energy to Ruby, because
eventually I run into a situation where I want and IDE and there just
isn't one. Oh well.

I'll take another look at Geany, I recall that it has, or can be made to
work with, the ruby beautifier.

-Thufir

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Seems odd to me. One of the great things about Ruby for me was that you
didn't need an IDE. I work just fine with Vi and Textmate. When I was
programming Java an IDE was a must because the language was just so verbose
(not just the amount of code that was written but also the number of files
you ended up creating). I wouldn't touch Java without an IDE but I have
never been in a situation where I was stuck in Ruby and thought "if only I
had a proper IDE".

What sort of situations are causing you problems that you believe that an
IDE would solve?

As an aside the other programmers here swear by RubyMine :frowning:

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On 29 August 2013 14:33, thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> wrote:

This is what keeps me from really committing energy to Ruby, because
eventually I run into a situation where I want and IDE and there just
isn't one. Oh well.

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I agree, it's different. Partly because Java is statically typed.

A few things I like (about netbeans and Java) and wish I could do with
ruby:

API the Java API is right there, as you type you can see methods and
arguments, etc. I have a heck of a time looking up things in Ruby, go to
the web, etc. Not sure that this could even be possible (?) given the
languages dynamic nature.

rename variable. very easy in Netbeans (and I'm sure, Eclipse et. al.)
and the changes will cascade correctly. Versus doing e a c h one by
hand..

beautify in Netbeans, it's alt-shift-f to format, or beautify, the code.

Those aren't really "IDE" features per se, unless you count renaming a
class an IDE specific feature. I'm sure emacs can handle all that in a
jiffy. A good editor would suffice.

Start the editor wars! or just suggestions. I've just downloaded geany
and will get the beautifier gem working with it as a plugin, that's most
of it there. It's just a bit more awkward, hard to define, than using
Netbeans. Maybe when they perfect Jruby (never) It'll be exactly what I
want :slight_smile:

ruby idiot,

Thufir

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:32:42 +0100, Peter Hickman wrote:

What sort of situations are causing you problems that you believe that
an IDE would solve?

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Tell me about it. Java should die so that it can get replaced, instead
it just limps along. Using ivy to import packages is insane in
comparison to using gems and require -- that alone makes ruby very
attractive.

-Thufir

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:32:42 +0100, Peter Hickman wrote:

When I was programming Java an IDE was a must because the language was
just so verbos

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I use NetBeans and it saves me a lot of time and effort.

Bookmarking, automatic indenting, and running diffs to previous versions of the code are among the many features, I prefer not to do without.

Arthur Lyman
(914) 693-5113
mailto://alyman@yahoo.com

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From: Peter Hickman <peterhickman386@googlemail.com>
To: Ruby users <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: I am looking for a free Ruby ide

On 29 August 2013 14:33, thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> wrote:

This is what keeps me from really committing energy to Ruby, because

eventually I run into a situation where I want and IDE and there just
isn't one. Oh well.

Seems odd to me. One of the great things about Ruby for me was that you didn't need an IDE. I work just fine with Vi and Textmate. When I was programming Java an IDE was a must because the language was just so verbose (not just the amount of code that was written but also the number of files you ended up creating). I wouldn't touch Java without an IDE but I have never been in a situation where I was stuck in Ruby and thought "if only I had a proper IDE".

What sort of situations are causing you problems that you believe that an IDE would solve?

As an aside the other programmers here swear by RubyMine :frowning:

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> What sort of situations are causing you problems that you believe that
> an IDE would solve?

API the Java API is right there, as you type you can see methods and
arguments, etc. I have a heck of a time looking up things in Ruby, go to
the web, etc. Not sure that this could even be possible (?) given the
languages dynamic nature.

RubyMine does this. It is not a problem for dynamic languages. Smalltalk
had this feature from the get go. The whole 'only possible with statically
typed languages' thing is complete BS.

rename variable. very easy in Netbeans (and I'm sure, Eclipse et. al.)

and the changes will cascade correctly. Versus doing e a c h one by
hand..

Variables being scoped to a class or method are easily changed in Vi or
Textmate. Method renaming is a little more of an issue. I use grep but
again RubyMine has got that covered too.

beautify in Netbeans, it's alt-shift-f to format, or beautify, the code.

Again RubyMine does that, personally I just run it through a script that
someone posted to this list. Which can be done without leaving either Vi or
TextMate.

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On 29 August 2013 15:56, thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:32:42 +0100, Peter Hickman wrote:

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Ok, I wasn't sure, thanks for clarifying.

Guess I'm just cheap and used to free tools. I might take RubyMine for a
spin.

-Thufir

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:39:18 +0100, Peter Hickman wrote:

API the Java API is right there, as you type you can see methods and
arguments, etc. I have a heck of a time looking up things in Ruby, go
to the web, etc. Not sure that this could even be possible (?) given
the languages dynamic nature.

RubyMine does this. It is not a problem for dynamic languages. Smalltalk
had this feature from the get go. The whole 'only possible with
statically typed languages' thing is complete BS.

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THUFIR H. wrote in post #1119966:

Guess I'm just cheap and used to free tools. I might take RubyMine for
a
spin.

You can expect people to release source code but you can't expect
everything to be free of charge. RubyMine is an extensive IDE. The
lowest price I can see for Visual Studio is $1800 US.

RubyMine is free for open source development, free for use in a
classroom and if you're a student it only costs $29. If you really need
the creature comforts, consider paying for it.

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