Hyphens vs. underscores

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Hi list,

I just wrote this,

  <http://www.brockman.se/software/hyphen-ruby/>

a simple preprocessor that converts between conventional Ruby-style
identifiers and Lisp/Dylan/XML-style ones. For example,

  @user-server = Nmdc::UserServer.new(
     :external-address => options.external-address,
     :external-port => options.external-port)

  @user-server.on-signal :opened do
    if @user-server.address.zero?
      puts "Listening to port #{@user-server.port}, all interfaces."
    else
      puts "Listening to #{@user-server.address}:#{@user-server.port}."
    end

Notice how the hyphens work to restore the center of gravity of each
line to the typographical center of the line. I think this makes Ruby
code look a little cleaner.

Here's a slightly hairier example:

    def on-signal *args, &block
      add-signal-handler *args, &block
    end

    def remove-signal-handler name, handler
      __maybe-initialize-signal-emitter
      @signal-handlers[name].delete handler
    end

    def signal name, *args, &block
      __maybe-initialize-signal-emitter
      __send__ "on_#{name}", *args, &block
      @signal-handlers[name].each { |x| x.call *args, &block }
    end

Note how I still use underscores for prefixing and suffixing, which I
have always thought looks nice. It communicates ``internal'' nicely.

Obviously, the preprocessor cannot handle quoted code (it would not be
possible to do so statically). In fact, as I didn't follow any formal
grammar or anything when writing the scanner, there will likely be
many cases that it should be able to handle correctly but doesn't.

Anyway, I just wanted to see if I could stir up a reaction here, and
maybe get matz to comment on the possibility of getting this syntax
accepted into a future version (Ruby 2?). :slight_smile:

I don't think it's really that bad with regards to backwards
compatibility, as it only breaks code that looks roughly like this,

    def moomin foo
      @gizmo.frob(@bar-foo)
    end

which I for some reason think is pretty rare. It doesn't break this,

    def moomin foo
      @gizmo.frob(-foo)
    end
    
nor this,

    def moomin foo
      @gizmo.frob(10-foo)
    end

but it _does_ break this,

    def moomin foo
      @gizmo.frob(foo-10)
    end

so the 10-foo case had better at least provoke a warning.

(This syntax would provide a good reason to deprecate most usages of
binary operators that are too low on whitespace (e.g., foo+bar).
I think doing so would be liberating to the syntax in the long run,
but I'm not sure that it would be good idea; it'd probably be likely
to annoy people. I certainly don't feel strongly about it.)

The GLib signal and property systems are the only precedents for
allowing both `foo-bar' and `foo_bar' as synonyms that I know of.
I'd be interested to hear about any other such examples.

Thanks,

···

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Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se>

   ``Why fix an old bug if you can write three new ones
     in the same time?'' --- David Kastrup (on emacs-devel)