Having a problem with DRb

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It won't connect. I tried it with a friend 400 miles away, and I tried it on 2 comps here on my home network. I get a DRbConnError no matter what variation I try. Firewall off/on, port forwarding and port triggering off/on. The server and client snippets of relevance are below.

#SERVER
<snip>
$uri = "druby://localhost:7824"

if $0 == __FILE__
  theApp = FXApp.new
  $server = STCCGServer.new(theApp, "GameServer")
  thr = Array.new
  thr << Thread.new do theApp.create
    $server.show
    theApp.run
  end
  DRb.start_service($uri, $server.game)
  thr << DRb.thread
  thr.each{|thread| thread.join}
end

#CLIENT
<snip>
$port = 7824
join.connect(SEL_COMMAND) do
  self.hide
  owner.name = namefield.text
  owner.game = DRbObject.new(nil, "druby://#{ipfield.text}:#{$port}")
  File.open($deck_dir + filefield.text.strip, "r"){|file| owner.game.add_player(namefield.text, file.gets)}
  sleep(1) until owner.game.game_start
  owner.make_interface
end

When I run the server and client on my machine, things work. When I run the client and server on seperate machines listed above, I get DRbConnError. Something so widely used like DRb must work, so I can only assume I've made an error somewhere and I have no idea what it is.

Thanks,
Raj

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It won't connect. I tried it with a friend 400 miles away, and I tried
it on 2 comps here on my home network. I get a DRbConnError no matter
what variation I try. Firewall off/on, port forwarding and port
triggering off/on. The server and client snippets of relevance are below.

You've missed out the most important bit, which is a description of your
home network *and* your friend's network.

If both are on private IP addresses, and both have NAT firewalls between
them and the Internet, then unless you've set up a VPN linking the two
networks then it's not going to be straightforward to implement, because DRb
involves calls in both directions.

There are some details about how DRb works at
http://wiki.rubygarden.org/Ruby/page/show/DRbTutorial

#SERVER
<snip>
$uri = "druby://localhost:7824"

That is never going to work between hosts, because you've explicitly told
the server to listen on interface 127.0.0.1 (the loopback), which means that
only other processes on the same host will be able to connect to it.

You could try:
$uri = "druby://myhostname.example.com:7824"

That may work but only if both machines are *directly* connected to the
Internet with a public IP address (e.g. it's a Windows machine with a
USB-ADSL modem or a dial-up) *and* both machines have a real hostname, as
the hostname is used by one machine to contact the other.

If not, then you will have to do lots of frigs involving port forwarding
*and* name to IP mapping. It would be easier to set up an ssh tunnel between
the two machines, and run DRb over that, since only one piece of
port-forwarding would be neeed.

Regards,

Brian.

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On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 02:54:45PM +0900, Raj Sahae wrote:

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Brian Candler wrote:

If not, then you will have to do lots of frigs involving port forwarding
*and* name to IP mapping. It would be easier to set up an ssh tunnel between
the two machines, and run DRb over that, since only one piece of
port-forwarding would be neeed.

Regards,

Brian

That all makes a good amount of sense. My follow up question would be that since I'm doing this on a WinXP machine, would it be easier for me to try the VPN route instead of setting up SSH tunneling? On *nix it seems like ssh can be set up instantly, but I have no idea how it would be done quickly and efficiently (and then coded for automation) on a windows machine. I don't know how to automate VPN either, but on XP, setting up VPN seems to take only 1 minute of clicking the mouse.

Raj

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Brian Candler wrote:

If not, then you will have to do lots of frigs involving port forwarding
*and* name to IP mapping. It would be easier to set up an ssh tunnel between
the two machines, and run DRb over that, since only one piece of
port-forwarding would be neeed.

That all makes a good amount of sense. My follow up question would be that since I'm doing this on a WinXP machine, would it be easier for me to try the VPN route instead of setting up SSH tunneling? On *nix it seems like ssh can be set up instantly, but I have no idea how it would be done quickly and efficiently (and then coded for automation) on a windows machine. I don't know how to automate VPN either, but on XP, setting up VPN seems to take only 1 minute of clicking the mouse.

Hi,

I don't know the legalities of this, but it may be possible to
distribute the minimal set of cygwin binarires to provide ssh.

  cygwin1.dll cygssl*.dll openssl.exe ssh.exe (...etc?)

I'm not a lawyer, etc., so I could be wrong, but it seems like the
license Cygwin Licensing Terms would allow distributing
a subset of the binaries without the whole installer.

Regards,

Bill

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From: "Raj Sahae" <rajsahae@gmail.com>

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If one end is WinXP and the other Unix, then run 'putty.exe' on the WinXP
end. It does port forwarding.

If both ends are WinXP then it's more difficult. A VPN solution like OpenVPN
or TINC may suit you better.

Regards,

Brian.

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:51:42AM +0900, Raj Sahae wrote:

That all makes a good amount of sense. My follow up question would be
that since I'm doing this on a WinXP machine, would it be easier for me
to try the VPN route instead of setting up SSH tunneling?

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Bill Kelly wrote:

From: "Raj Sahae" <rajsahae@gmail.com>

Brian Candler wrote:

If not, then you will have to do lots of frigs involving port forwarding
*and* name to IP mapping. It would be easier to set up an ssh tunnel between
the two machines, and run DRb over that, since only one piece of
port-forwarding would be neeed.

That all makes a good amount of sense. My follow up question would be that since I'm doing this on a WinXP machine, would it be easier for me to try the VPN route instead of setting up SSH tunneling? On *nix it seems like ssh can be set up instantly, but I have no idea how it would be done quickly and efficiently (and then coded for automation) on a windows machine. I don't know how to automate VPN either, but on XP, setting up VPN seems to take only 1 minute of clicking the mouse.

Hi,

I don't know the legalities of this, but it may be possible to
distribute the minimal set of cygwin binarires to provide ssh.

cygwin1.dll cygssl*.dll openssl.exe ssh.exe (...etc?)

I'm not a lawyer, etc., so I could be wrong, but it seems like the
license Cygwin Licensing Terms would allow distributing
a subset of the binaries without the whole installer.

Regards,

Bill

I apologize for this having become a little off topic. Can anyone confirm what Bill is saying? How would I go about getting those specific binaries, and then how would I use them? Is there a way to integrate them with ruby. Could I create my own SSH gem or SSH module somehow?

Raj

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Bill Kelly wrote:

From: "Raj Sahae" <rajsahae@gmail.com>

Brian Candler wrote:

If not, then you will have to do lots of frigs involving port forwarding
*and* name to IP mapping. It would be easier to set up an ssh tunnel between
the two machines, and run DRb over that, since only one piece of
port-forwarding would be neeed.

That all makes a good amount of sense. My follow up question would be that since I'm doing this on a WinXP machine, would it be easier for me to try the VPN route instead of setting up SSH tunneling? On *nix it seems like ssh can be set up instantly, but I have no idea how it would be done quickly and efficiently (and then coded for automation) on a windows machine. I don't know how to automate VPN either, but on XP, setting up VPN seems to take only 1 minute of clicking the mouse.

Hi,

I don't know the legalities of this, but it may be possible to
distribute the minimal set of cygwin binarires to provide ssh.

cygwin1.dll cygssl*.dll openssl.exe ssh.exe (...etc?)

I'm not a lawyer, etc., so I could be wrong, but it seems like the
license Cygwin Licensing Terms would allow distributing
a subset of the binaries without the whole installer.

I apologize for this having become a little off topic. Can anyone confirm what Bill is saying? How would I go about getting those specific binaries, and then how would I use them? Is there a way to integrate them with ruby. Could I create my own SSH gem or SSH module somehow?

Note also that ruby already has Net::SSH:
http://rubyforge.org/projects/net-ssh/

Maybe Net::SSH can even do port-forwarding... I don't know, though.

Regards,

Bill

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From: "Raj Sahae" <rajsahae@gmail.com>

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Raj Sahae wrote:

I apologize for this having become a little off topic. Can anyone confirm what Bill is saying? How would I go about getting those specific binaries, and then how would I use them?

Go to the Cygwin homepage, and download the installer. Select what you need (a bit of familiarity with Linux wouldn't hurt), and wait for the download and installation to complete.

You can then redistribute it as long as you confirm to the GPL (or write up installation instructions, if you don't feel safe), and / or just redistribute the installer. It's the GPL, so you should be safe if you don't modify the Cygwin source and redistribute that.

Is there a way to
integrate them with ruby. Could I create my own SSH gem or SSH module somehow?

There's already an SSH gem (gem install net-ssh). You need Cygwin only to setup an SSH server on your side, and don't have to hack it up that much.

I have no idea, though, if this SSH server can interact with stuff outside of Cygwin, or if you have to compile Ruby within the Cygwin environment.

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http://clothred.rubyforge.org

Rules of Open-Source Programming:

22. Backward compatibility is your worst enemy.

23. Backward compatibility is your users' best friend.

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Ruby Net::SSH can do port forwarding,

http://net-ssh.rubyforge.org/chapter-6.html

Although I am not sure, if it will fit your needs.

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On 4/16/07, Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@googlemail.com> wrote:

Raj Sahae wrote:

> I apologize for this having become a little off topic. Can anyone
> confirm what Bill is saying? How would I go about getting those
> specific binaries, and then how would I use them?

Go to the Cygwin homepage, and download the installer. Select what you
need (a bit of familiarity with Linux wouldn't hurt), and wait for the
download and installation to complete.

You can then redistribute it as long as you confirm to the GPL (or write
up installation instructions, if you don't feel safe), and / or just
redistribute the installer. It's the GPL, so you should be safe if you
don't modify the Cygwin source and redistribute that.

> Is there a way to
> integrate them with ruby. Could I create my own SSH gem or SSH module
> somehow?

There's already an SSH gem (gem install net-ssh). You need Cygwin only
to setup an SSH server on your side, and don't have to hack it up that much.

I have no idea, though, if this SSH server can interact with stuff
outside of Cygwin, or if you have to compile Ruby within the Cygwin
environment.

--
Phillip "CynicalRyan" Gawlowski
http://cynicalryan.110mb.com/
http://clothred.rubyforge.org

Rules of Open-Source Programming:

22. Backward compatibility is your worst enemy.

23. Backward compatibility is your users' best friend.