Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)
So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?
Regards,
Søren Andersen
This come up from time to time, and frankly, I never understood what
the question is asking. Programming is no more learning the idioms of
that language; the constructs behind it should be transferable across
languages.
Since you said you've used Java, see:
http://onestepback.org/articles/10things/
As for specific projects, that's hard to answer. You could look at
the Ruby quizes:
-- Thomas Adam
On 29/10/2007, Søren Andersen <soren.andersen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?
Søren Andersen wrote:
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty
good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather
than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?Regards,
Søren Andersen
Well, my first language was ruby, so I learned it by doing Rails stuff.
I wanted to make web-sites so I learned that way. I just recently
started learning Java, and what I have been doing is taking my ruby apps
and re-doing them in Java. you could try the opposite. I guess it just
depends on what you want to do with the language, but if your just
trying to learn it and do what ever, then you could try using hpricot
and start parsing some websites, or use one of the gui toolkits like
FXRuby. Have fun!
~Jeremy
--
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/\.
Hi --
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?
My "rite of passage" program for new languages is usually the
word-game Jotto. (Somewhere I have my Ruby version of it....) I find
game-ish things to be quite good for language-learning purposes. Not
necessarily full-blown video games and such, but things like decks of
cards, anagrams, and checker board moves.
The main thing is to keep it all a bit fluid -- for instance, if
you're doing a checker board, try it with arrays and also with the
Matrix class. It can be a good excuse for exploring the language and
trying things out.
David
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Søren Andersen wrote:
--
Upcoming training by David A. Black/Ruby Power and Light, LLC:
* Advancing With Rails, Edison, NJ, November 6-9
* Advancing With Rails, Berlin, Germany, November 19-22
* Intro to Rails, London, UK, December 3-6 (by Skills Matter)
See http://www.rubypal.com for details!
Learning by doing is good. So is reading the code others have written. I, too, recommend Ruby Quiz as a source of both projects to do and code to browse.
<http://www.rubyquiz.com/index.html> .
Regards, Morton
On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Søren Andersen wrote:
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?
So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?
I believe that this is very much an "eye of the beholder" issue. You
should choose something that you find interesting enough to hold your
attention even when the going gets rough, which it always does when
learning. Have it large enough to do the things that you will want to
learn. (websites, databases, file I/O, sockets, etc, etc.)
Pick something that will become a cool toy you can play with and you
will want it to be all shiny and tricked out. It is your interest in
the project that will make the biggest difference in the learning
process.
IMHO
--
Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/\.
Hi --
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?This come up from time to time, and frankly, I never understood what
the question is asking. Programming is no more learning the idioms of
that language; the constructs behind it should be transferable across
languages.
Then rephrase the question in your mind as: What are your favorite
learning-the-idioms-of-the-language-by-doing projects? 
There's
definitely something there to learn, and that means that there are
different approaches to, and experiences with, the process.
I actually think it's possible to learn something about programming
*from* a particular programming language. I probably can't come up
with a sound technical reason why that should be, but I believe it is.
David
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Thomas Adam wrote:
On 29/10/2007, Søren Andersen <soren.andersen@gmail.com> wrote:
--
Upcoming training by David A. Black/Ruby Power and Light, LLC:
* Advancing With Rails, Edison, NJ, November 6-9
* Advancing With Rails, Berlin, Germany, November 19-22
* Intro to Rails, London, UK, December 3-6 (by Skills Matter)
See http://www.rubypal.com for details!
Søren Andersen wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
> I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty
> good.
> But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather
> than
> just reading about it. (Naturally...)
>
> So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
> ruby-specific, and generally?
>
> Regards,
>
> Søren AndersenWell, my first language was ruby, so I learned it by doing Rails stuff.
I wanted to make web-sites so I learned that way. I just recently
started learning Java, and what I have been doing is taking my ruby apps
and re-doing them in Java.
Downporting is good
you could try the opposite.
DO not do this, upporting is bad, you risk to write Java code in Ruby.
I can only repeat Thomas' suggestion about Ruby Quiz
Do a simple one, it is not your algorithmic muscles you want to flex,
right?, and than look at how Rubiests have done it.
Cheers
Robert
On 10/29/07, Jeremy Woertink <jeremywoertink@gmail.com> wrote:
--
what do I think about Ruby?
http://ruby-smalltalk.blogspot.com/
David A. Black wrote:
Hi --
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?My "rite of passage" program for new languages is usually the
word-game Jotto. (Somewhere I have my Ruby version of it....) I find
game-ish things to be quite good for language-learning purposes. Not
necessarily full-blown video games and such, but things like decks of
cards, anagrams, and checker board moves.The main thing is to keep it all a bit fluid -- for instance, if
you're doing a checker board, try it with arrays and also with the
Matrix class. It can be a good excuse for exploring the language and
trying things out.David
You *really* want that "checkers" Ruby Quiz, don't you? 
When I was a (very) young person I wanted a computer. Of course this was so long ago that *people* didn't own computers, just businesses and government agencies. And what did I want to do with it? Two things -- play games and predict the weather. It seems like there are many more fun things to do these days, but the game thing must be pretty much universal if it was something people wanted to do that long ago.
So ... is anyone doing computational fluid dynamics in Ruby?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, S?ren Andersen wrote:
Depending on how new you are to programming (as i am/was), try starting out with FizzBuzz and Twisting a Rope.
The rope one was especially fun!
Ari
-------------------------------------------|
Nietzsche is my copilot
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Morton Goldberg wrote:
On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Søren Andersen wrote:
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?Learning by doing is good. So is reading the code others have written. I, too, recommend Ruby Quiz as a source of both projects to do and code to browse.
Hi --
David A. Black wrote:
Hi --
Hello all,
I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is pretty good.
But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it, rather than
just reading about it. (Naturally...)So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
ruby-specific, and generally?My "rite of passage" program for new languages is usually the
word-game Jotto. (Somewhere I have my Ruby version of it....) I find
game-ish things to be quite good for language-learning purposes. Not
necessarily full-blown video games and such, but things like decks of
cards, anagrams, and checker board moves.The main thing is to keep it all a bit fluid -- for instance, if
you're doing a checker board, try it with arrays and also with the
Matrix class. It can be a good excuse for exploring the language and
trying things out.David
You *really* want that "checkers" Ruby Quiz, don't you?
That's funny -- I actually hadn't even read that thread.
I wrote a Boggle game in Ruby once, and tried to generalize the
algorithm so that it could use a board of any size and calculate legal
letter paths. Not exactly the same as checkers, but similar in some
ways. With the standard-size board (4x4), it was literally true that
almost every case was an edge case.
David
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, S?ren Andersen wrote:
--
Upcoming training by David A. Black/Ruby Power and Light, LLC:
* Advancing With Rails, Edison, NJ, November 6-9
* Advancing With Rails, Berlin, Germany, November 19-22
* Intro to Rails, London, UK, December 3-6 (by Skills Matter)
See http://www.rubypal.com for details!
There's a company (Fluent) located in my town that does fluid dynamics... in C... But they have many modules of their stuff in Python. I spoke to one of the guys at my Linux Users Group meeting, and he says they **might** start doing some modules in Ruby by next year (I wanted to do some basic interning there, like systems administration, dirty work, etc).
So in short... There're some things in Python that may or may not be open source, and then porting those to Ruby shouldn't be too hard.
I'll email the guy, and ask him about maybe releasing some of their code
HTH,
~ Ari
English is like a pseudo-random number generator - there are a bajillion rules to it, but nobody cares.
On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:37 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
So ... is anyone doing computational fluid dynamics in Ruby?
If you liked the rope one, you should try the current one - editing
text. I haven't seen any solutions, yet. A "rope" could even be
used to solve it...
Eric
On 10/29/07, Ari Brown <ari@aribrown.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Morton Goldberg wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Søren Andersen wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm fairly new to ruby coming from some Java.
>> I've been reading "The pragmatic programmers guide", which is
>> pretty good.
>> But, I always find it's easier to learn the language using it,
>> rather than
>> just reading about it. (Naturally...)
>>
>> So - what are your favorite "learning-by-doing"-proejcts? Both
>> ruby-specific, and generally?
>
> Learning by doing is good. So is reading the code others have
> written. I, too, recommend Ruby Quiz as a source of both projects
> to do and code to browse.
>
> <http://www.rubyquiz.com/index.html>Depending on how new you are to programming (as i am/was), try
starting out with FizzBuzz and Twisting a Rope.The rope one was especially fun!
<snip>
If you liked the rope one, you should try the current one - editing
text. I haven't seen any solutions, yet.
Pitty it's a great quiz and I would love to have the time.... 
Robert
On 10/30/07, Eric Mahurin <eric.mahurin@gmail.com> wrote:
--
what do I think about Ruby?
http://ruby-smalltalk.blogspot.com/