CC'ed to Ruby-Talk because of the ToDoList page announcement at the
end.
...because now is the time to hammer them out, it seems to me?
Earlier is better than later
Indeed, the longer it takes, the more code will be affected.
Incidentally, the impact on upstream --- see below --- was the criterion
I used to prioritize the proposed modifications. It is meant to be
optimum in the sense that it minimizes the global amount of work
required (from RubyGems developers, people packaging with RubyGems,
external repackagers and end users)._why proposed a list [ruby-core:5877] and further refined it in
[ruby-core:5950]; the latter incorporated items added by Chad Fowler
[ruby-core:5880] and Jim Weirich, who also prioritized them in
[ruby-core:5901], without specifying the sorting criteria, though.
Austin Ziegler created the so far most detailed list [ruby-core:5882].
I tried to assign priorities to the latter based on the impact on
upstream code in [ruby-core:5890]. Unfortunately, the latter was largely
disregarded, but I'd appreciate constructive criticism.Most of this seemed (to me) to come from the Ruby rather than the
Repackager's side of thingsI see what you mean. However, it is important to avoid the
Ruby//repackagers polarization: it'd be a pity if somebody was (mis)led
They are sometimes the same people. Agreed.
into thinking that they're somehow antagonistic, which of course isn't
true. I'm glad we have all managed to dissipate that impression.I'm still puzzled about the use of the term upstream code.
It's a term commonly used by packagers: they refer to the source code
released by the library/application developer as "upstream". I guess the
mental image is that the code moves down until it reaches the end user.
OK, that helps.
I have made an attempt to collect the main points people raised
here:
Which Chad Fowler agreed to me doing. The formatting is a bit iffy,
threre is no attribution -- it can be added but I thought it
wouldn't really help. The list is not prioritized in any way yet.
As I'm not a developer of RubyGems though I try to provide useful
input, I think it isn't my place to prioritize.
Trying to get rid of invisible newlines is a nightmare.
Anyway, if you and others could look at this and kick and beat it
into shape, hopefully it will provide a useful focus for activity.
--
Mauricio Fernandez
HTH
Hugh
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Mauricio Fernández wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 06:50:40PM +0900, Hugh Sasse wrote: