Gateway healthy?

I’m seeing some replies to things that
I never saw via the mailing list.

How is the news-mail gateway? Do we
have any way of monitoring its status?

Dave-- I realize that most of the issues
with it are ISP and news provider issues
and thus beyond your control.

But: Would it be useful to write some
stats to a web page – like how many
messages were passed in each direction
today?

Hal Fulton

“Hal E. Fulton” hal9000@hypermetrics.com writes:

I’m seeing some replies to things that
I never saw via the mailing list.
How is the news-mail gateway? Do we
have any way of monitoring its status?

It seems to be running fine. (I keep a window up that monitors it. The
last entries are:

09:46:15: news2mail | sending message: 42903: “Re: Running rdoc on
lib/*.rb\r”/“bbense+comp.lang.ruby.Jul.16.02@telemark.stanford.edu\r"
09:46:15: news2mail | … sent
09:46:15: news2mail | new last = 42904
10:06:16: news2mail | new last = 42905
10:26:18: news2mail | new last = 42907
10:46:19: news2mail | new last = 42909
11:06:19: news2mail | new last = 42909
11:26:20: news2mail | new last = 42911
11:46:22: news2mail | new last = 42914
12:06:23: news2mail | new last = 42916
12:26:25: news2mail | new last = 42920
12:46:27: news2mail | message: 42926: “Re: Win32OLE: Is getting MSIE
HTTP status possible?\r”/”“John” nojgoalbyspam@hotmail.com\r"
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level:
12:46:29: news2mail | sending message: 42926: “Re: Win32OLE: Is
getting MSIE HTTP status possible?\r”/""John"
nojgoalbyspam@hotmail.com\r"
12:46:29: news2mail | … sent
12:46:30: news2mail | new last = 42928

Dave-- I realize that most of the issues with it are ISP and news
provider issues and thus beyond your control.

Well, remember that news takes a while to propogate. If you could give
me headers from a news message that never arrived in the mailing list
I can chase it up with Giganews and see if ther’s a problem.

But: Would it be useful to write some stats to a web page – like
how many messages were passed in each direction today?

Would that be helpful?

It seems to be running fine. (I keep a window up that monitors it.

Right… the current glitch may be in my head, as I can’t
find what made me think there was a problem.

Dave-- I realize that most of the issues with it are ISP and news
provider issues and thus beyond your control.

Well, remember that news takes a while to propogate. If you could give
me headers from a news message that never arrived in the mailing list
I can chase it up with Giganews and see if ther’s a problem.

If I see it again, I’ll forward info.
Someone else did see this happen on July 10, I think.

Is there any programmatic way to catch possible glitches? (I’m fairly
ignorant of mail/news headers.) Like detect a message having a header
referring to another message we’ve never seen?

But: Would it be useful to write some stats to a web page – like
how many messages were passed in each direction today?

Would that be helpful?

Oh, I’d check it at times. But that’s just me.

But if you did do such a thing, you could perhaps even list and ID the
messages and maybe even hyperlink them. Add a line of Javascript to
refresh it every N minutes, and your monitor can be purely web-based
(and perhaps save a few bytes of RAM and some CPU cycles).

Maybe worth the time, maybe not.

Hal Fulton

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----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave Thomas” Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Gateway healthy?

“Hal E. Fulton” hal9000@hypermetrics.com writes:

But if you did do such a thing, you could perhaps even list and ID the
messages and maybe even hyperlink them. Add a line of Javascript to
refresh it every N minutes, and your monitor can be purely web-based
(and perhaps save a few bytes of RAM and some CPU cycles).

If you’d like to take this on, I’d be happy to integrate it. I could
send you the up to date scripts as a base (they’ve changed just a bit
since I sent you the ones for the book).

Cheers

Dave

I’ll certainly take a look at it. At the very
least I’ll put it on my Ruby to-do list (somewhere
above the genetic algorithm for finding optimal
Spades-playing strategies, and below the Fox
interfaces for RubyRED and Socrates). :slight_smile:

Might even be a possibility for the Texas Codefest.
Dont’ suppose you can make it to that? Weekend of
Aug 17, I think, according to David Alan Black.

Any little clarifying notes you can add to the
comments or docs will help… especially if I
try to add a “glitch scanning” feature to it.

The ruby-talk numbers are not predictable before
they come back from the mailing list, right?

We can take this offline if you want – unless
maybe someone wants to comment here.

Re glitch scanning, I’m just thinking out loud:

When we get a news message and pass it to the
ML, we could potentially verify that we get it
back from the ML later. Implies a database or
something. Probably overkill.

Opposite direction, ML to new-- basically
symmetrical I guess. Also implies a database.
Yuck.

Hmm. When we get a news or mail msg, what fields
might refer back to another message? Can we detect
oddities? The ruby-talk number would help, perhaps.

Hal

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----- Original Message -----
From: “Dave Thomas” Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Gateway healthy?

“Hal E. Fulton” hal9000@hypermetrics.com writes:

But if you did do such a thing, you could perhaps even list and ID the
messages and maybe even hyperlink them. Add a line of Javascript to
refresh it every N minutes, and your monitor can be purely web-based
(and perhaps save a few bytes of RAM and some CPU cycles).

If you’d like to take this on, I’d be happy to integrate it. I could
send you the up to date scripts as a base (they’ve changed just a bit
since I sent you the ones for the book).